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ovenmitt
Dec 17, '13, 9:35 PM
I asked this question on Figures Facebook to which FTC replied "can't comment now"

This has me believe more FTC llicenses will be announced in 2014. I can only dream FTC makes a deal with Disney for Marvel and ...Star Wars?!

What would you like to see?

Brown Bear
Dec 17, '13, 9:40 PM
My dream is still World's Greatest Boxers with all the greats.....Leonard, Duran, Marciano, Holmes, Frazier, Hearns, etc....but I doubt there's a market for it.

66 Batman, SMDM and WGSH "were" my dream lines....other than those, I guess that leaves Marvel as the obvious choice. I would personally LOVE to see Marvel mixed in the DC just like the old days.

silveralex
Dec 17, '13, 9:48 PM
If they get Marvel and Star Wars (now conveniently owned by a single company), I'm a happy camper.

k2
Dec 17, '13, 10:11 PM
If they get Star Wars I will lose my mind, it will be one of the greatest things to ever happen in the history of the world

The Bat
Dec 18, '13, 8:45 AM
If they get Star Wars I will lose my mind, it will be one of the greatest things to ever happen in the history of the world

You and me both!!

Astronut
Dec 18, '13, 9:14 AM
No, if they get the Marvel license to do repros and new characters, THAT will be the greatest thing to ever happen in the history of the world.

Here's my personal must-have list for new characters, with a * next to the ones I want most:

Heroes:
Dr. Strange
Man-Thing *
Ghost Rider
Nighthawk
Captain Marvel (red & blue ver)
Hellcat *
Tigra
Moondragon
Spider-Woman (the orig ver, not the dumb b&w ver)
Nomad (orig ver)
Daredevil (red ver) * <--- comes w billy club
Daredevil (alternate yellow/black ver)
Black Widow
Deathlok <--- comes w weapon
Nova *
Luke Cage/Power Man *
Iron Fist *
Hawkeye <--- comes w quiver, bow
The Vision *
Scarlet Witch *
Quicksilver
Ant Man
Yellowjacket *
Wasp
Wonder Man
The Beast
Brother VooDoo
Sunfire
Ms. Marvel *
Black Bolt
Sub-Mariner
Medusa
Black Panther
The Silver Surfer <--- comes w surf board
Blade <--- comes w wooden stake
The New X-Men (all)

Villains:
Dr. Doom *
The Red Skull * <--- comes w cosmic cube
The Mole Man * <--- comes with staff
Ultron
Magneto
Loki <--- comes w weapon
Annihilus
Terrax <--- comes w weapon
Skrull
Super Skrull
The Mandarin *
Bullseye *
The Jester
The Absorbing Man/Crusher Creel * <--- comes w wrecking ball
The Abomination
The Shocker *
Blizzard
Firebrand *
Baron Zemo
Kraven The Hunter *
Stegron The Dinosaur Man
Man-Wolf *
Morbius The Living Vampire *
The Vulture *
Tarantula *
The Jackal *
The Punisher * <--- comes w sniper rifle
Mysterio *
Kingpin <--- comes w walking cane
Venom
Tombstone
Carrion

Oh, there are others, but these are what immediately came to mind. For me.

enyawd72
Dec 18, '13, 9:49 AM
^I'm with you!

Teemu
Dec 18, '13, 9:56 AM
Bring it on! I want Marvel repro's! Thor! Cap! Iron Man! Falcon! and MANY more!

and I welcome Starwars too :)

Astronut
Dec 18, '13, 10:11 AM
I inserted more. That's what she said.

Byrnes
Dec 18, '13, 11:37 AM
I would cut off a nut for some X-Men. Could you imagine that line-up.

enyawd72
Dec 18, '13, 12:03 PM
I would cut off a nut for some X-Men. Could you imaging that line-up.

I'm too busy imagining you cutting off a nut. :googly: :smiley1:

But yeah, Marvel would just be the end all be all for me...

Iron Mego
Dec 18, '13, 12:15 PM
I think FTC would have to show that the line has serious legs, and mass appeal, before Marvel would dip their toe back into the 8" format. I think Doc has said on a number of occasions that Marvel said no way when they were approached with the idea in the recent past, that they did this already with Famous Covers, etc. Famous Covers was, in their minds, a flop (and yes, it was SUPPOSED to be 8" scale).

But who knows, maybe FTC will just run mad with this stuff and Marvel will reconsider.

Astronut
Dec 18, '13, 12:46 PM
i'm too busy imagining you cutting off a nut. :googly: :smiley1:

But yeah, marvel would just be the end all be all for me...

hahahaha!

Astronut
Dec 18, '13, 12:52 PM
I think FTC would have to show that the line has serious legs, and mass appeal, before Marvel would dip their toe back into the 8" format. I think Doc has said on a number of occasions that Marvel said no way when they were approached with the idea in the recent past, that they did this already with Famous Covers, etc. Famous Covers was, in their minds, a flop (and yes, it was SUPPOSED to be 8" scale).

But who knows, maybe FTC will just run mad with this stuff and Marvel will reconsider.

I see where you're coming from but I have to wonder... if FTC agrees to maintain quality control and adhere to style guides etc — and they are willing to pay Marvel for the license and give them royalties from each piece sold... then what would Marvel have to complain about?

It's not as if Marvel has to share in the production costs or advertising etc. It's not as if "8-inch, Mego-style cloth action figures" compete against other toys... they are unique from any other figure on the market.

I really don't understand the logic of Marvel flat-out saying "no" when they really have nothing to lose, only to gain via a hefty licensing fee and future revenue. Granted, the revenue may not be gigantic but again, I see no downside for them as long as the quality is there and their characters are being represented properly — and they are not competing with other similar toys.

Am I missing something here?

Figuremod73
Dec 18, '13, 1:41 PM
I think FTC would have to show that the line has serious legs, and mass appeal, before Marvel would dip their toe back into the 8" format. I think Doc has said on a number of occasions that Marvel said no way when they were approached with the idea in the recent past, that they did this already with Famous Covers, etc. Famous Covers was, in their minds, a flop (and yes, it was SUPPOSED to be 8" scale).

But who knows, maybe FTC will just run mad with this stuff and Marvel will reconsider.

Could Doc have been talking about Hasbro? I dont think Hasbro is interested in the 8 inch mego-like market at all after lack of sales from past efforts.

Iron Mego
Dec 18, '13, 3:27 PM
I don't think Doc would have talked to Hasbro. Hasbro had a license to make toys, but Marvel holds the license.

jwyblejr
Dec 19, '13, 12:14 AM
I'd like to say yeah and get on board but I'd rather take a wait and see approach first. I want to see how the rest of the DC stuff does first. Plus Tarzan and Conan. I don't want to see them get in over their head and have it all collapse.

ovenmitt
Dec 23, '13, 6:15 PM
I just called FTC today and asked iif any chance of Marvel Megos and the guy said "possibly, yes"!

I know FTC has pursued the Marvel license its just up to Disney now. What a Christmas and New Year gift that would be!

Boywonder0
Dec 23, '13, 6:46 PM
I'm sure that if we support their 8" offerings they will eventually get into Marvel figures...

dr_cyclops
Dec 23, '13, 7:58 PM
I know this guy who knows a guy who has sculpted some ok at best Marvel villains. Problem is, he's a cyclops, and we all know how 'nosy and opinionated' those types are.*

*Futurama.

MIB41
Dec 23, '13, 8:19 PM
I'll be competely honest here and say I'm a little 'licensed-out' at the moment. There is SOOOOO MUCH stuff coming out in 2014 from companies all over, the thought of wanting more at this stage seems like a bit of overkill. I might start thinking in that direction by this time next year. But between this Christmas' offerings and all this stuff just released or coming out next month (or in a few months), my satisfaction level is seated in a good place. Lots of new stuff to enjoy with more on the way. As Brian says so well, "We have an embarrassment of riches." And he's right. I'm going to sit back and soak it up for a spell. This is fun.

Vinny0026
Dec 23, '13, 9:12 PM
I would love to see them get the Marvel rights as well.

I think the bottom line really would be:
one can CTV can afford to get the rights from Disney

And 2 does Disney want to compete with themselves?
keep in mind they own Hasbro now -

So if they were sold on the idea these would be a hit - why not make it themselves?
They do not need the rights since they already own them.

Just a thought. Again I would love to see someone make them.
but as MIB41 mentioned - there is so much stuff coming out - its just hard to afford all of these items at the same time.

I'm just happy that Mego is some what back and if it is just DC for now - lets enjoy it and hope for more down the road.
will be great to see my kids rip these open tomorrow and have fun with them!

thunderbolt
Dec 24, '13, 5:33 AM
they could afford WB's fees for DC and 66, and Gene Simmons for Kiss, so I don't see how they couldn't afford Marvel. Maybe getting marvel hinges on the Batman lines doing well, so they have the cash to reinvest in other lines.

The Bat
Dec 24, '13, 9:50 AM
they could afford WB's fees for DC and 66, and Gene Simmons for Kiss, so I don't see how they couldn't afford Marvel. Maybe getting marvel hinges on the Batman lines doing well, so they have the cash to reinvest in other lines.

Sounds "spot on" to me Joe!:yes:

jwyblejr
Dec 24, '13, 2:59 PM
I would love to see them get the Marvel rights as well.

I think the bottom line really would be:
one can CTV can afford to get the rights from Disney

And 2 does Disney want to compete with themselves?
keep in mind they own Hasbro now -

So if they were sold on the idea these would be a hit - why not make it themselves?
They do not need the rights since they already own them.

Just a thought. Again I would love to see someone make them.
but as MIB41 mentioned - there is so much stuff coming out - its just hard to afford all of these items at the same time.

I'm just happy that Mego is some what back and if it is just DC for now - lets enjoy it and hope for more down the road.
will be great to see my kids rip these open tomorrow and have fun with them!

Don't believe Disney owns Hasbro. If they did,we would have seen a Disney Princesses and My Little Pony combo by now. That right there would make up for whatever price Disney pays for Hasbro.

SciFiGuyLA
Dec 24, '13, 3:47 PM
And 2 does Disney want to compete with themselves?
keep in mind they own Hasbro now -

Ummm.... no. There was a rumor that circulated briefly about a year ago that Disney was thinking about buying Hasbro, but nothing ever came of it. Perhaps you are thinking of Toy Biz, which was partially owned by Marvel back in the '90s. Hasbro remains independent, but did extend their Star Wars and Marvel licenses with Disney to the year 2020.

The very first question that needs to be answered is how comprehensive is Hasbro's Marvel license? Does it cover the Mego-style and scale? Some licenses can be very specific and some can be very comprehensive. If their Marvel license is a master toy license, for example, then it covers everything imaginable, including the 8" (1/9th scale) format.

The reason FTC can make the Retro Batman line is obviously because Mattel's current DC license does not include the 8" format, allowing them to buy a license for that format specifically from DC.

If Hasbro's Marvel license includes the 8" format, then it really doesn't matter what Marvel/Disney think of Mego-style toys. Hasbro would hold complete control of that style/format. All hope is not lost, however. Sideshow Collectables was able to negotiate a sub-license from Hasbro to allow them to produce their large scale, premium format Star Wars figures. So, conceivably, FTC could try to negotiate with Hasbro to sub-license the Marvel characters in the Mego style/format. Assuming Hasbro is open to the idea, it could be pricey, but still possible.

If Hasbro's license does not include the 8" format, then it is simply a matter of whether or not FTC can afford the licensing fee Disney is asking. I seriously doubt anyone in the Disney/Marvel organization would have any real opinion about this format one way or the other. It's likely just a simple business proposition from them. "You want a license to make a Marvel toy? No problem! That'll be <insert dollar amount here> please!!!"

My point is that it's not really a matter of whether or not Disney/Marvel will allow FTC make Marvel characters in the Mego-style. It's probably more of a matter of whether or not the license is available for that format and, if it is, whether or not FTC can afford it.

Personally, I would LOVE to see it happen, as I've always been more of a Marvel guy than a DC guy. On the other hand, MIB41 makes a great point. Too much can be a bad thing. My wallet is already screaming under the strain of what's available and what's coming. FTC needs to pace themselves or risk losing sells to those of us that don't have unlimited toy budgets.

Figuremod73
Dec 24, '13, 4:30 PM
My guess is its a matter of money since there are other Marvel formats like sideshow available. I'm almost certain that Hasbro has no interest in the 8'' cloth format because of DC's Golden Age from years ago. It sat in toystores for years along side the Toybiz Marvel figures. If hasbro did do it I would be very suprised.

dr_cyclops
Dec 25, '13, 11:47 AM
While dreaming of what FTC or another company could do with the Marvel comics license, I do understand that this is the time for FTC to deliver on the huge undertaking they acquired.:yeah:
Love the direction FTC is taking to the original WGSH with adding new characters, and scales. It's like they really considered all my requests.:grin:

ovenmitt
Dec 27, '13, 12:35 PM
Something is brewing with FTC and Marvel, FTC is not replying to Facebook questions about Marvel. Might not be long until an announcement.

Aricosaur
Dec 27, '13, 1:04 PM
Ummm.... no. There was a rumor that circulated briefly about a year ago that Disney was thinking about buying Hasbro, but nothing ever came of it. Perhaps you are thinking of Toy Biz, which was partially owned by Marvel back in the '90s. Hasbro remains independent, but did extend their Star Wars and Marvel licenses with Disney to the year 2020.

The very first question that needs to be answered is how comprehensive is Hasbro's Marvel license? Does it cover the Mego-style and scale? Some licenses can be very specific and some can be very comprehensive. If their Marvel license is a master toy license, for example, then it covers everything imaginable, including the 8" (1/9th scale) format.

The reason FTC can make the Retro Batman line is obviously because Mattel's current DC license does not include the 8" format, allowing them to buy a license for that format specifically from DC.

If Hasbro's Marvel license includes the 8" format, then it really doesn't matter what Marvel/Disney think of Mego-style toys. Hasbro would hold complete control of that style/format. All hope is not lost, however. Sideshow Collectables was able to negotiate a sub-license from Hasbro to allow them to produce their large scale, premium format Star Wars figures. So, conceivably, FTC could try to negotiate with Hasbro to sub-license the Marvel characters in the Mego style/format. Assuming Hasbro is open to the idea, it could be pricey, but still possible.

If Hasbro's license does not include the 8" format, then it is simply a matter of whether or not FTC can afford the licensing fee Disney is asking. I seriously doubt anyone in the Disney/Marvel organization would have any real opinion about this format one way or the other. It's likely just a simple business proposition from them. "You want a license to make a Marvel toy? No problem! That'll be <insert dollar amount here> please!!!"

My point is that it's not really a matter of whether or not Disney/Marvel will allow FTC make Marvel characters in the Mego-style. It's probably more of a matter of whether or not the license is available for that format and, if it is, whether or not FTC can afford it.

Personally, I would LOVE to see it happen, as I've always been more of a Marvel guy than a DC guy. On the other hand, MIB41 makes a great point. Too much can be a bad thing. My wallet is already screaming under the strain of what's available and what's coming. FTC needs to pace themselves or risk losing sells to those of us that don't have unlimited toy budgets.

All good points. Hasbro may not have the 8-inch license because they don't automatically have the license to everything. I still think the main reason they bought Galoob in the late 90s was to get the micro-scale Star Wars license (which they then ran into the ground.).

And, as you pointed out with the Sideshow 12-inch, Hasbro will license to other toy companies. I've heard on this forum about how there will never be Super Joe remakes because Hasbro won't make them. But Hasbro gave Funko the license for vinyl figures of their in-house brands like G.I. Joe and My Little Pony. Maybe there's hope for some ReMego company to do Super Joe?

Astronut
Dec 27, '13, 1:27 PM
Something is brewing with FTC and Marvel, FTC is not replying to Facebook questions about Marvel. Might not be long until an announcement.

(crossing my fingers. big time.)

Wise4671
Dec 27, '13, 7:04 PM
I would like to see them do a Lone Ranger line :-) (Clayton Moore style)

JediJaida
Dec 27, '13, 7:39 PM
Hopefully with an accurate Jay Silverheels Tonto!

Wise4671
Dec 27, '13, 9:56 PM
Hopefully with an accurate Jay Silverheels Tonto!

For sure!!!!