So whatever happen to the NEW Bionic Woman ?

[Mikey]

I watched the first episode......
Thought it totally sucked-- and completely forgot about it.

So was the series cancelled ?
I never hear anything about it anymore.


m

[jacsfc]

actually, it is a pretty good show. like every other shoe on tv, it is on hiatus due to the writers strike.

[The Toyroom]

Supposedly it was going to return in January with a hyped-up revamp of the series but the writers' strike has delayed that I believe

[Hulk]

Latest rumor is that the show has been cancelled. It was getting better, but not good enough to prevent its downfall. The ticking timebomb aspect of the Nanotechnology was a decent twist on the concept, but was a bit too out there for me, and the show really didn't have a whole lot in common with the original. Its a shame, because I think the show could have done a better job of channeling the appeal of the original without too much tweaking to their basic backstory, but the writing seemed a bit too forced with the scenarios they tried to throw at Jamie. I still think the pilot seemed like a chopped up two hour pilot which left too much details out of the mix.

[jwyblejr]

I heard that after the first episode,the ratings just nose dived.

[The Toyroom]

From Wikipedia:

According to the British tabloid newspaper the Daily Star, NBC has announced that the show will be cancelled after poor viewing figures and complaints about bad storylines.

[MegoNinja]

From Wikipedia:
thank God!
Does any one else loose sleep, appetite and concentration when they hear that some high budget executives are remaking one of the greatest shows/movies?
I get so upset if your around me you wont hear me shut up for days on end. I was really worried that if Bionic Woman was remade that they might be stupid enough to remake Six Million Dollar Man. I hate remakes, not only are they incredibly inferior but they fool a generation of people into thinking that they are watching 'the original series' and essentially delete the superior original version.
I hope to god that not only is this petty remake canceled but that no one ever remembers it. "the only fate worse than death is being forgotten".

[toys2cool]

wow that sucks ,they really didn't even give it a chance if you ask me

[ZICA]

. . . I hate remakes, not only are they incredibly inferior but they fool a generation of people into thinking that they are watching 'the original series' and essentially delete the superior original version. . .

That was pretty much my opinion on the whole "remake" issue too, especially after watching the first episode of the new Battlestar Galactica series. However, after giving it a little more time I actually grew to like the new series for what it is and no longer saw it as a smack in the face to the original series. The flashback scenes in Razor that had the original Cylon and ship designs were great! :)

[HardyGirl]

I pretty much feel the same way about remakes as MegoNinja. I really hated the first ep, and never wanted to watch any subsequent eps. However I do feel bad that it's (supposedly) cancelled, only b/c Miguel Ferrer was in it, and I was really hoping he'd find another hit like "Crossing Jordan" to star in.

[ShadowAvenger]

According to The Hollywood News (http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/artman2/publish/television_news/Reports_say_NBC_has_cancelled_Bionic_Woman_2914120 7.php):

"Reports say NBC has cancelled Bionic Woman

"We've just been informed by our sources that NBC have indeed as expected cancelled Bionic Woman. Nothing official has been posted by NBC but expect to hear an official confirmation shortly."

[RussG]

Ding Dong the Bionic Witch is Dead!!!


I kind of liked the first episode ("kind of") but 2nd and 3rd sucked and by the 4th I forgot all about it I'm glad it's gone now if only I could forget I ever saw it and I could get back the 3 hours of my life I wasted watching it.

But at least Mad TV had a semi-funny spoof of it with their Les-Bionic Woman

[ctc]

>Does any one else loose sleep, appetite and concentration when they hear that some high budget executives are remaking one of the greatest shows/movies?

Yes. Yes I do. And not even when it's a great idea. The cruddy ones worry me just as much.

>I hate remakes, not only are they incredibly inferior but they fool a generation of people into thinking that they are watching 'the original series' and essentially delete the superior original version.

Wow. Okay; I'm not THAT bad. I dislike remakes since they tend to be the name of something slapped over whatever's currently cool. (No matter how many "we're all big fans of the original" interviews the new crew gives....) And the reason I hate THAT is 'cos it results in something that's just like everything else. They invariably end up LOSING whatever it was that made the original interesting in the first place.

Bionic Woman is a great example. Cyborgs are kinda passe, "Nanotech" was an idea enamoured by the practicioners of the nerdly arts in the late 90's. So to make it more "hip" they go with the nanotech. Add some kung-fu powers, tack on a relationship and whaddya got?

....every Japanese cartoon from the mid to late 90's. Been there. Done that. Converted the VHS to DVD....

>I hope to god that not only is this petty remake

...until someone who liked it becomes a tv exec; and decides to remake THIS version twenty years from now.

Don C.

[Steeler80]

I actually liked the show (although no one else I know does ;) ). I think that it was getting better as the show went on, although apparently not fast enough.

[danadoll]

Ding Dong the Bionic Witch is Dead!!!


I kind of liked the first episode ("kind of") but 2nd and 3rd sucked and by the 4th I forgot all about it I'm glad it's gone now if only I could forget I ever saw it and I could get back the 3 hours of my life I wasted watching it.

But at least Mad TV had a semi-funny spoof of it with their Les-Bionic Woman

LOL...I thought the Pilot episode was pretty weak and I saw two episodes beyond it and felt they were not much better. I feel they should have just given the character a different name and let the series be a creature unto itself and not try to remake the original. I also feel the constant re-working of this series did not help it (recastings, reshoots, etc...) and I don't believe re-working it more in the new year will do any good....But you never know.

What's the point of remaking something, if they're going to change everything (but the name of said character) that makes the character who they are? I.E. The main character is Jaime Sommers, yet she bears no resemblance physically, emotionally or even in characterization to the original.

I have nothing against a good remake/reimagining, but they are very, very few and far between...But if you're going to gut the original to create a remake...Why bother?...Just do something new with the concept (with new names, characters, settings, etc...)..."The New Bionic Woman"?

Those that don't want to see remakes done...Tough cookies, it's going to happen sooner or later and that's a fact...TV series are fiction and just like written fiction, they will be retold, reinterpreted, reimagined and re-worked again and again (whether they are done well or badly is entirely up to those doing it).

Dana

[ShadowAvenger]

New article about the show at NBC Still Continuing With 'Bionic Woman' (http://syfyportal.com/news424553.html).

[Hector]

I Tivo'd all the episodes, and watched them all. I tried my best to like it since I'm a HUGE fan of the original.

My problem was not with the actress playing Jamie, my problem was with the entire production value of the show, it was so low-budget looking...the special-effects were horrible.

I was expecting a killer memorable intro of the show, it was was pure lameness...boring and lame.

I hated that she had a little sister, and boy, that little sister was annoying as hell, I just hated that character.

I did like the concept of the prototype Bionic Woman (Starbuck)...but that storyline went nowhere quick.

The show had potential but if failed in the end.

RIP.

[Mikey]

Any fans of the original series.........

Check out Megostore .......
http://megostore.com/store/index.php/cPath/12_67
Click on TV/Movies

Joe's got a pretty nice selection of key episodes including some SMDM-BW crossovers.
All in NTSC --aka, will play on your American DVD player.

I have them all and they're pretty cool :)

m

[The Toyroom]

New article about the show at NBC Still Continuing With 'Bionic Woman' (http://syfyportal.com/news424553.html).

Sounds like she's living on borrowed time thanks to the writers' strike...

[K]

Katie Sackoff was, IMO, the best part of Bionic Woman.

If Bionic Woman was picked up for a second season, she was set to become a regular.

She's all set with her Battlestar Galactica gig, though.

[samurainoir]

I swa the first episode and thought that the best thing about it was evil Bionic Starbuck.

[twilitezoner]

If they cancel this show, then NBC should cancel Heroes next. Besides they can't cancel the show until they air the reimagined Bionic Bigfoot.

[johnmiic]

I saw the first episode and it just reeked of David Eick's pretentiousness. It was trying to be dark and edgy but I really think they turned viewers off. There's nothing wrong with pushing the envelope but this new version never had a chance.

[palitoy]

It's been officially cancelled, the writers strike, no doubt didn't help it's chances of finding an audience.

[ShadowAvenger]

SyFy Portal reports that NBC Cancels 'Bionic Woman' (http://syfyportal.com/news424740.html) :(

[Hector]

That was pretty much my opinion on the whole "remake" issue too, especially after watching the first episode of the new Battlestar Galactica series.

The new Battlestar Galactica is a masterpiece of a show.

The old one was really mediocre, campy and mediocre.

Not even close.

Some of you get caught up in nostalgia, sure the old one was the original, but that didn't make it better. The new one is vastly improved, not even in the same universe in terms of quality.

New Battlestar Galactica...A-

Original Battlestar Galactica...C+

[Mikey]

New Battlestar Galactica = Boring

Original Battlestar Galactica = Boring :smiley1:

[Vortigern99]

If they cancel this show, then NBC should cancel Heroes next. Besides they can't cancel the show until they air the reimagined Bionic Bigfoot.

:smiley1: Yes, only this time it would have been "Nanotech Sasquatch"!

[MIB41]

Not a bit surprised. I thought the show was a complete miss. For starters they should have recreated the original Cyborg story and inserted Steve Austin first. I never thought it made alot of sense to bypass that piece of television history since that story was done so well. I thought the show was very pretentious and too aware of itself. Felt that way also about the Knightrider remake last night. The girl seems bored with her role and tried too hard to look engaged while talking to the car. It just didn't work. The car was plenty cool, but once again, the show was just too aware of itself. These producers spend too much time showcasing style over substance and that translates into very shallow story telling. Audiences have gotten a tad more sophisticated in the sci-fi arena than what the studios give them credit for.

[ctc]

>The new Battlestar Galactica is a masterpiece of a show.
The old one was really mediocre, campy and mediocre.

Twenty years from now the new one will seem campy and mediocre too. It's mired way too much in current thinking: the pseudo-military look, the "question authority/question the war" ideology, the "I'm angry!!!" characterization.... The reason it doesn't feel that way is the same as why the old one didn't feel 70's at the time: we're in the middle of that kind of thinking so it doesn't seem unusual at all. But it's there.

>sure the old one was the original, but that didn't make it better.

No; but the camaraderie and weird mysticism did. The big robot guys with the one eye that went "wubwubwub" helped too.

Don C.

[palitoy]

Twenty years from now the new one will seem campy and mediocre too.

Maybe not, there is some intentional camp in the original series, it can't be avoided. Every series gets dated but your original content is important.



No; but the camaraderie and weird mysticism did. The big robot guys with the one eye that went "wubwubwub" helped too.


Personally, I miss the capes most of all. The mysticism is a big part of the new series, it's actually more in depth in ways that would have had the ABC censors frothing. I do think the original cylons were superior to the cgi ones on the new series.

[Meule]

I actually like Bionic Woman, they're showing it here right now. Was looking forward to a new season

[The Toyroom]

Bionic Woman got better as it went along...just not quick enough it seems.

[ctc]

>Bionic Woman got better as it went along...just not quick enough it seems.

Hmmmm.... y'know ANY seires gets better as it goes along, because you start building up a history and a continuity. (Well; maybe not ANY seires; but a lot of them.) Trick is to use that buildup.

>Maybe not, there is some intentional camp in the original series, it can't be avoided. Every series gets dated but your original content is important.

I really do think the new Galactica will sorta fade into nostalgia. Yeah, your original concept is important; but the new Galactica doesn't have anything that's new and limited to itself. The stories, the characters, the imagery, the designs.... they're all pretty standard stuff. It sounds kinda simplistic (and really it IS) but for a show to really live on and make an impact there's got to be some little thing that really sticks with folks. And not of the "it's very well done" variety. That's more of an academic review and not a personal connection.

And it doesn't have to be a BIG thing! Sometimes the smallest things come to encapsulate a person's entire experience with a show. That "wubwubwub" noise the original Cylons made. Play it and most folks will immediately recognize it. The "dodododododo" noise original bionics made from the Six Million Dollar Man/Bionic Woman shows has the same effect. Talking wheels? Most folks 'aint gonna think of "My Mother the Car." (Although some weirdo will....) "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry!" "I love it when a plan comes together!" "Dammit Jim; I'm a doctor!"

New shows are WAY too self concious. Ther'es an incredible amount of effort put to making them "well;" but in doing so they suck out everything that makes a show "entertaining." Be sure to have the requisite amount of betrayal and romance; but a catch phrase? Hackery! I suspect one reason "Lost" is so popular is 'cos they're just doing stuff; stuff that's counter-intuitive in a lot of cases. No resolution, pile more on. Mix the supernatural and the sci-fi. Throw in a lot of strange characters. Make non-sequitur your friend. HAVE PEOPLE HIDE FROM FEET!!!!!

Don C.

[palitoy]

I really do think the new Galactica will sorta fade into nostalgia. Yeah, your original concept is important; but the new Galactica doesn't have anything that's new and limited to itself. The stories, the characters, the imagery, the designs.... they're all pretty standard stuff. It sounds kinda simplistic (and really it IS) but for a show to really live on and make an impact there's got to be some little thing that really sticks with folks. And not of the "it's very well done" variety. That's more of an academic review and not a personal connection.

I think the new Galatica is involving, engaging, drama and will be well remembered. It's not apples to apples to compare shows from when there were 3 networks to now though, it's much harder to make that sort of impact. I mean, many people can sing the Love Boat theme too, is that a good thing?


And it doesn't have to be a BIG thing! Sometimes the smallest things come to encapsulate a person's entire experience with a show. That "wubwubwub" noise the original Cylons made. Play it and most folks will immediately recognize it. The "dodododododo" noise original bionics made from the Six Million Dollar Man/Bionic Woman shows has the same effect. Talking wheels? Most folks 'aint gonna think of "My Mother the Car." (Although some weirdo will....) "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry!" "I love it when a plan comes together!" "Dammit Jim; I'm a doctor!"

When I said "I miss the capes" I meant it, my one complaint about most modern science fiction is the lack of theatricality. It has it advantages as much of it has fallen into cliche but occasionally it's fun to see things go a bit "disco". Doctor Who is the only one I've seen in a long time to keep those kind of things intact.



New shows are WAY too self concious. Ther'es an incredible amount of effort put to making them "well;" but in doing so they suck out everything that makes a show "entertaining." Be sure to have the requisite amount of betrayal and romance; but a catch phrase? Hackery! I suspect one reason "Lost" is so popular is 'cos they're just doing stuff; stuff that's counter-intuitive in a lot of cases. No resolution, pile more on. Mix the supernatural and the sci-fi. Throw in a lot of strange characters. Make non-sequitur your friend. HAVE PEOPLE HIDE FROM FEET!!!!!

I want to love Lost but I can't help think it's going to end with Locke shooting people with a machine gun while "all you need is love" warbles on a juke box.

[johnmiic]

I want to love Lost but I can't help think it's going to end with Locke shooting people with a machine gun while "all you need is love" warbles on a juke box.

Really? And will he drive out in an 18 wheeler while singing "Dem Bones, Dem Bones.." while a midget serves tea?

[palitoy]

Really? And will he drive out in an 18 wheeler while singing "Dem Bones, Dem Bones.." while a midget serves tea?

Get out of my head you sorcerer!

[Airdave817]

What I hate is that some remakes come back as comedies. Why would Starsky & Hutch come back as a comedy? Did I miss something there? Maybe we look at things that differently now, huh? I read that either Jim Carrey or Chris Rock was going to be the next Six Million Dollar Man and it was going to be - a comedy.

[Earth 2 Chris]

What I hate is that some remakes come back as comedies. Why would Starsky & Hutch come back as a comedy? Did I miss something there? Maybe we look at things that differently now, huh? I read that either Jim Carrey or Chris Rock was going to be the next Six Million Dollar Man and it was going to be - a comedy.

I'm waiting for Paramount to release a raunchy, Aptow-like "remake" of Happy Days. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see an a near R-rated version of this get made. It would essentially be Porky's with a new Fonzie in it.

I hope no Hollywood execs are reading this...

Chris

[Hulk]

I'm holding my breath for a Fall Guy movie.

[ctc]

>I think the new Galatica is involving, engaging, drama

I hear that a lot; but I just don't feel it. Maybe it's me, but I find the characters never take a break from being all angsty and enraged enough for me to actually CARE about them, so I don't get any sense of drama from the show. Instead I just wanna smack the entire cast. It's like I'm being TOLD I should care, 'cos this guy is all stressed and he's got a tough job and such; but I'm not given an actual opportunity to care. Instead it comes across to me as standard soap opera schlockery.

>it's much harder to make that sort of impact.

I hear that a lot; but I don't think it's just a matter of having more choice. I think WAY too much is formula. And it's laways been like that. Think how many shows from the days of three channels have also faded into obscurity. Comparatively little survives for long. I'd say nowadays MORE stuff achieves lasting memory 'cos there's someone somewhere on the internet that's dedicated a website to pretty much everything that comes out.

>I mean, many people can sing the Love Boat theme too, is that a good thing?

HAW! Definitely not! (Okay; how long 'til someone disputes this one? Dissent in 3... 2... 1...)

>my one complaint about most modern science fiction is the lack of theatricality.

I agree. That's what I mean about shows being too self-conscious. Everything HAS to be "serious." And what counts as "serious" is usually painfully formulaic. There are other advantages too: if I use a weird name for time periods in a show it means my writers don't have to be pinned down by real world measures. If I use a weird made-up element for power then the writers aren't bound by our current knowledge of physics. It makes my show more original, and it takes some pressure off the crew.

But nobody does that.

>I want to love Lost but I can't help think it's going to end with Locke shooting people with a machine gun while "all you need is love" warbles on a juke box.

HAW! Y'know; that's one of my all time favourite series. I'm also pretty sure I know what happened in that last episode!

>What I hate is that some remakes come back as comedies. Why would Starsky & Hutch come back as a comedy?

Comedy was popular. Like I said before; my problem with remakes is that they're not usually a remake, they're a few names and images from something old slapped on to whatever the current formula is. "Starsky and Hutch" blew my mind, 'cos the ORIGINAL is still considered by a lot of critics to be the most violent show ever. So we'll make it a wacky comedy....?

>I'm waiting for Paramount to release a raunchy, Aptow-like "remake" of Happy Days.

They did a "PG" one. It was called "That 70's Show." I don't know if we'd see a new Happy Days, since the 50's are way out of anybody's target demographic now. (Nostalgia seems to go back 20 years or so.) But it doesn't mean it WON'T happen. A recognizable name is a recognizable name. (Heck; CTVT even did 4 sets of figures from it; so SOMEBODY think's it's marketable.)

Don C.

[johnmiic]

Get out of my head you sorcerer!

Iggitty-Aggity-Ooop!

[MIB41]

What I hate is that some remakes come back as comedies. Why would Starsky & Hutch come back as a comedy? Did I miss something there? Maybe we look at things that differently now, huh? I read that either Jim Carrey or Chris Rock was going to be the next Six Million Dollar Man and it was going to be - a comedy.

I completely understand where your coming from, but I think the intent was to poke a little fun at the overacting and the "aw shucks" attitude that were so frequent in these shows. I mean if you were a hardened criminal and Starsky and Hutch showed up at your door, would YOU be intimidated? Probably not. Of course it didn't help that some of the crime bosses were drinking warm milk while they planned their next knock off at the local candy store. Don't get me wrong. I LOVED the old Starsky and Hutch as a kid and I own all five box sets today. The show is charming on many levels and I love the buddy connection between the two. Watching that show is like imagining yourself putting on a badge and going out to fight crime with your best friend. It's just a feel good show along those lines. When I saw the movie I completely got it and didn't think they were downing the original series at all.

Now when I heard the same treatment might be given to the Six Million Dollar Man, I got my back up over that because I think the overall "science" of the show was what made it interesting. I think it holds up really well even by today's standards. Steve Austin was TV's answer to James Bond with special abilities and it blows my mind they have never reinvented that for today's audiences. But seeing how they remade the Bionic Woman shows how off the mark they were regarding the success of the original series. So maybe it's a blessing they didn't do a show around Steve Austin.

[kept back]

What I really wanna know is, did Michelle Ryan get naked ar any point on Bionic Woman?

[danadoll]

Now when I heard the same treatment might be given to the Six Million Dollar Man, I got my back up over that because I think the overall "science" of the show was what made it interesting. I think it holds up really well even by today's standards. Steve Austin was TV's answer to James Bond with special abilities and it blows my mind they have never reinvented that for today's audiences. But seeing how they remade the Bionic Woman shows how off the mark they were regarding the success of the original series. So maybe it's a blessing they didn't do a show around Steve Austin.

From what I've heard and read...The Six Million Dollar Man has been in legal hell/limbo for quite a few years now. I guess nobody can do anything with it until it's legal troubles are over. The following article deals with the reasons why Steve might not be seen again and even why the Bionic Woman couldn't even be bionic (she had to have nanotech, instead)...

Why Aren't The Original Bionic Shows On DVD? Questions Answered! - DVD Guy | TVGuide.com (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/Dvd-Guy/Arent-Original-Bionic/800023655)

I hope that helps.

Dana

[MIB41]

Great article Danadoll! Hmmmm. I wonder if you can convert the UK discs to play on US players. I doubt that would be difficult. :sarky: