It's NFL Sunday...but...

[Hector]

I'm watching Rugby World Cup 2011 instead...NBC is showing USA vs Ireland right now...

:smiley1: :biggrin:


Hey...those rugby players are powerful-looking...many of them could easily play in the NFL.

[thunderbolt]

I would be watching the Bucs if they weren't blacked out because no one in Tampa can afford tickets.

[wolfie]

Nobody in Indianapolis is watching. :terror:

[Evel KMego]

Nobody in Indianapolis is watching. :terror:

Hey, I watched the game. Now we'll see who the fair weather fans are. Yeah, Peyton didn't play, but he never tackled a running back or sacked a quaterback in the last 12 years. Defense has no excuse.

[MegoMark71]

Bengals win....Bengals win........ call yo momma cause the Bengals win.

[MIB41]

Romo is a moron... I hate him more than I ever did Danny White. He always finds a new way to choke. Just trade him away. That's all I ask.

[BlackKnight]

^^^^ I will trade you for JArvis JAckson.

straight accross Tom.

[MIB41]

^^^^ I will trade you for JArvis JAckson.

straight accross Tom.

I'll take it. Anything to get the curse of Romo away from this team. :yeah:

[kresge1]

J-E-T-S Thats how you represent your team and the city...Yes Romo chokedm but sanchez almost gave the game to them
:)

[MIB41]

Oh lets be entirely honest here. The Cowboys absolutely GAVE them that game. Romo gave the Jets a gift with a goal line fumble which he caused and an interception right to your defender with no pressure on him. Yes, the punt block was an excellent move by the Jets and they deserve credit there. But that would have been a nonfactor if Romo had done his job. He jinx us every year and I'm tired of his boneheaded lapse in judgement when he needs to be playing at his best. He just has no ability to protect the ball when we need him to the most.

[megoapesnut]

You tell em. Any Jets fan who gloats over this game deserves a good smack. Big D dominated the game from the start. If Witten's toe doesn't nudge out of bounds, the game is over, with a much different result. Romo's goal line fumble sucked, but he was trying to make a play. The interception wasn't his fault. It was a timing throw and Dez was supposed to stop and hook, but he kept running. Romo could have thrown Dez under the bus, but he didn't. As much as the loss sucked, I am very pleased with how they played in a game everyone was predicting they would get blown out. We'll see how the season goes.

[kresge1]

a WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN...its about heart and hanging around...the cowboys have no heart...and sanchez had boneheaded plays as well..so its even

[wolfie]

IT'S DOLPHIN TIME. :smiley13::licklips: :yes:

[megoapesnut]

a WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN

Not disputing that


the cowboys have no heart

Not disputing that either


and sanchez had boneheaded plays as well..so its even

The difference there is that Sanchez didn't have boneheaded plays when the Jets were getting ready to put the game away. So I DO dispute your claim that it's even!

[MIB41]

a WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN...its about heart and hanging around...the cowboys have no heart...and sanchez had boneheaded plays as well..so its even

When the Jets acquire FIVE Super Bowl trophies then they can talk. How many times have they even been to the Super Bowl? Once. Dallas? Eight times. Dallas played great last night. But they were undermined by the acts of one man. Don't broad stroke the whole team because you enjoy the cheap 'gimme' wins.

[Hector]

...and speaking of Super Bowl titles...my Raiders have three (and five SP appearances in total)... :biggrin:

Tonight...

Monday Night Football...it's...

RAIDERS TIME!!!

Down goes the Broncos...down goes the Broncos...

:biggrin: :yes: :biggrin:

[kresge1]

I will enjoy the "cheap gimme" wins anytime i can get them...just as much as i appreciate the hard fought wins..like i said a win is a win.....the jets might not have the dallas pedigree but we are well on our way. wer have been to one superbowl and its the most talked about superbowl..let me give you a clue..namath..gurantee....underdog...put the AFL on the map...???
..they play consistent and they play hard win or lose.....Dallas has a great coach and some great players...Romo is overrated and panics when the game is on the line...Dallas has a bigger problem...their owner..i cant stand Jerry Jones...his ego forced out Jimmy johnson and your team is just not the same

[Hector]

Vinnie...after the Raiders and the 49ers...the Jets are my third favorite team...so you have some backup in here...

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[Adam West]

Glad to see the Redskins finally beat the Giants and get off to a good start. I'm not making any crazy predictions or anything but they looked semi-decent for a change and hopefully, will just get better and better as the season progresses. Right now, they have a killer defense which everybody is overlooking because they are so focused on Rex Grossman. When LaRon Landry is healthy, it will even be better.

[Spawn67]

All I can say is my Ravens DESTROYED the steelers!! Revenge is sweet!.."nuff said for me!

[toys2cool]

yea that sucked about Romo, he cause me 3 points on one of my fantasy leagues :smiley1: but he played well, he's better then people give him credit...they lost the game because of the blocked punt, and that bullcrap call on Witten with 41 seconds left where Austin had like 25 yards, admit it, it was in NY and they wanted the Jets to win on 9-11, I hate Sanchez with a passion, I hate Henne as well, but I'd take him over Mark any day...he has to be the worst most over rated QB of all time...I'm sorry but if you put Romo on that Jets team with that D, he'd probably go undefeated... the D is great, i'll give them that much....just look at how many times that D has bailed out mark after he gives the game away

[toys2cool]

All I can say is my Ravens DESTROYED the steelers!! Revenge is sweet!.."nuff said for me!

that was crazy :grin:

[toys2cool]

IT'S DOLPHIN TIME. :smiley13::licklips: :yes:

hell yeah, this game should be fun..and a lot closer then people think..Pats Phins games are always close, we play them pretty good :grin:

[megoapesnut]

hell yeah, this game should be fun..and a lot closer then people think..Pats Phins games are always close, we play them pretty good :grin:

No catches for Marshall and three turnovers for the Pats D, including a pick 6! :silly:

OK, I won't get greedy. I'll be happy with a Pats loss, as long as it's low scoring AND no catches for Marshall!

[toys2cool]

No catches for Marshall and three turnovers for the Pats D, including a pick 6! :silly:

OK, I won't get greedy. I'll be happy with a Pats loss, as long as it's low scoring AND no catches for Marshall!

I'm screwed regardless...if Marshall sucks I win in my other league and if he does good then I can win ours :smiley1:

[toys2cool]

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac319/bigbeahner/Jets_Peeboy.gif

[wolfie]

Allthough i like the Dolphins i don't know much about them. Is the team supposed to be any good this season, superbowl?

[Adam West]

Allthough i like the Dolphins i don't know much about them. Is the team supposed to be any good this season, superbowl?

I believe they are rated 21st or 22nd out of 32 teams but that's before playing the first game. I don't mind that the Redskins are rated 24th or in some cases even lower than that. They can just fly under the radar without a target on their backs until they put together some consecutive wins and are started to be taken seriously.

Buffalo Bills-perfect example. Rated almost dead last but crushed the K.C. Chiefs yesterday. It has been a weird season already and we're only in week 1.

[BENDY]

hey, romo is the best we have had since aikman, so i will ride it out with him as our qb.

[Spawn67]

Although Im not a jets fan Im glad they beat the Cowboys. I like when Overatted, Overpaid teams like them and the Steelers lose. Funny cause it seems the NFL likes them because of all the fans they have but yet when they lose they can't seem to grasp the fact that a billion dollar stadium doesn't mean youll be a good team (basketball is another sport that does this). But thats my 2 cents.

[Spawn67]

I would be watching the Bucs if they weren't blacked out because no one in Tampa can afford tickets.

That sucks for Bucs fans! Them and the Jaguars can't seem to fill stadiums. I live here in Florida (hopefully for not much longer) and the economy here is horrible. Seems college football is the big thing here.

[Evel KMego]

Go Phins! My two favorite teams are the Colts(Pray for us!) and whoever plays the Pats!

[jimbutsu]

I heard the Niners are officially changing their name to the San Francisco Ted Ginns...

[kresge1]

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac319/bigbeahner/Jets_Peeboy.gif

Everybody on this board is a comedian.......just another disgruntled dolphin fan.....we will see whom has the laugh after oct 17th.....

[Hector]

I heard the Niners are officially changing their name to the San Francisco Ted Ginns...

Niners kicked some serious butt yesterday...

:yes: :biggrin:

[toyman]

GO 49ers!!!!!!!!!!

[Hector]

:smiley13: :biggrin: :smiley13:

[Hector]

Brady...511 yards so far...holy shiat, Batman...

:terror:

[Hector]

Raiders vs Broncos on ESPN2 right now...until the Patriots/Dolphins game ends.

[toyman]

Oh its over but they just have to keep it on tv:grin:.

[jimbutsu]

Ted Ginn kicked some serious butt yesterday...
Fixed.

[Hector]

Janikowski just kicked a 63 field goal to tie the other two 63 field goal records...before halftime...

:juggleyes_y: :grin: :juggleyes:

[jimbutsu]

It's even more impressive when you consider that Janikowski is ober 300 years old...

[ScottA]

I swear kickers should be in the HOF.

[jimbutsu]

(For the record, I'm older than he is, but doesn't it feel like he's been around forever?)

[toys2cool]

Janikowski just kicked a 63 field goal to tie the other two 63 field goal records...before halftime...

:juggleyes_y: :grin: :juggleyes:

are you serious? dam

[toys2cool]

Everybody on this board is a comedian.......just another disgruntled dolphin fan.....we will see whom has the laugh after oct 17th.....

you Jets fans always swear you're so good, but you have nothing to back it up :smiley1:

we've beating you pretty good lately so i'm not worried , Sanchez still sucks :smiley1:

[kresge1]

Janikowski is a beast..he could play linebacker with his size

[toys2cool]

hey, romo is the best we have had since aikman, so i will ride it out with him as our qb.

He's good, really good...yea he has a few bonehead plays here and there but what QB doesn't? I wasn't a big Romo fan, but after seeing how unfairly he's always treated, I'm starting to like him :grin:

[kresge1]

you Jets fans always swear you're so good, but you have nothing to back it up :smiley1:

Yeah your right...afc championship game two yrs in a row..yeah that's nothing
What have the dolphins done in the last 20 years? The most excitement they have is watching their old timers cheer when the Last undefeated team loses...some legacy. :)
we've beating you pretty good lately so i'm not worried , Sanchez still sucks :smiley1:

Its always a good game..that's what rivalries are all about...will be at the game on mon nite this year..so I hope it's a good one

[Hector]

are you serious? dam

Yeah...and the ball cleared another two yards...it could've been a 65 yarder...lol.

[Hector]

you Jets fans always swear you're so good, but you have nothing to back it up :smiley1:

we've beating you pretty good lately so i'm not worried , Sanchez still sucks :smiley1:

You have been singing the same song over and over again...yet Sanchez keeps proving you wrong, time and time again...lol.

[toys2cool]

You have been singing the same song over and over again...yet Sanchez keeps proving you wrong, time and time again...lol.

how has he proved me wrong? last i've checked he hasn't won anything ;) win a SB or at least make it to one then come talk to me :grin: the guy sucks and everyone knows it, you like him cause he's part Mexican and i can understand jets fans cause they don't have a choice...but give me a break, even jets fans don't darft this guy in fantasy football :smiley1: that's how sorry he is

[toys2cool]

in fact i'd take manning as is with the neck injury over him :smiley1:

[Hector]

Now Lechler just kicked a 77 yard punt...damn...the Raiders got a real dynamic kicking duo...

:smiley1:

[Hector]

how has he proved me wrong? last i've checked he hasn't won anything ;) win a SB or at least make it to one then come talk to me :grin: the guy sucks and everyone knows it, you like him cause he's part Mexican and i can understand jets fans cause they don't have a choice...but give me a break, even jets fans don't darft this guy in fantasy football :smiley1: that's how sorry he is

Don't hate, fish fan...ehem...I mean Dolphin fan...you know the Jets are your daddies...

:grin: :grin: :grin:

[Hector]

...but give me a break

No...no brake for you...

:silly: :smiley1: :biggrin:

[toys2cool]

Don't hate, fish fan...ehem...I mean Dolphin fan...you know the Jets are your daddies...

:grin: :grin: :grin:

yea that's what i thought...no answer it's what i expected ;)

[Hector]

Just wait until Sanchez and the Jets lights up your boys...

:silly: :smiley1: :grin:

[toys2cool]

Just wait until Sanchez and the Jets lights up your boys...

:silly: :smiley1: :grin:

he can't even do that, just wait Until rivers lights up yours ;)

[kresge1]

how has he proved me wrong? last i've checked he hasn't won anything ;) win a SB or at least make it to one then come talk to me :grin: the guy sucks and everyone knows it, you like him cause he's part Mexican and i can understand jets fans cause they don't have a choice...but give me a break, even jets fans don't darft this guy in fantasy football :smiley1: that's how sorry he is



Wait..Hector is Mexican??? i am shocked...LOL

[Brad]

You all can argue all you want about pedigree. Get back to me when your favorite team is one of the NFL founding teams. I'll give you a hint, there are only two of them still operating in the NFL.
:wink_y::grin:


Last night's Raiders vs Broncos game was fun to watch! I saw the long field goal too. Dang Raiders nearly gave the game away with stupid penalties. I know they are usually the most penalized team but they really need to have better discipline.
:yeah:

[Adam West]

It's debatable as to whether the Bears are considered a founding NFL team since they were the Decatur Staleys before changing their name and town a few years after the NFL started, but seems like it is splitting hairs. The Cardinals take credit for being the oldest franchise since they have never changed their last name since the beginning. With that said, I would say the Bears probably are the 2nd most successful NFL franchise next to the Green Bay Packers (I only give the edge to Green Bay for Super Bowl plus NFL Championship wins). Even though the Bears haven't won many Super Bowls they were almost impossible to beat in the 1930's and 1940's. The Redskins went up against them 4 times (1937, 1938, 1940, 1942) and each won two. Of course most people who know old NFL know the Bears absolutely crushed the Redskins in the 1940 Championship 73-0 keep in mind that the Redskins had an excellent team that year....unbelievable.

[MIB41]

Ah! So good to see the NFL season started. I love the debates! :smiley1:

[Hector]

he can't even do that, just wait Until rivers lights up yours ;)

We owned the Chargers last year...hell...we owned the entire division...too bad we didn't play that good outside the division...

:smiley1: :grin: :biggrin:

[megoapesnut]

Ah! So good to see the NFL season started. I love the debates! :smiley1:

There is no debate. Dallas is going to be undefeated this year and off to the Super Bowl!!

er.... Ok, maybe they will lose ONE game!!!

:silly:

[MIB41]

We owned the Chargers last year...hell...we owned the entire division...too bad we didn't play that good outside the division...

:smiley1: :grin: :biggrin:

That should give you an 8-8 season then, right? :grin:

[toys2cool]

We owned the Chargers last year...hell...we owned the entire division...too bad we didn't play that good outside the division...

:smiley1: :grin: :biggrin:

did you forget you lost a key player in the secondary this year? ;) I'm sure River's has noticed

[MIB41]

There is no debate. Dallas is going to be undefeated this year and off to the Super Bowl!!

er.... Ok, maybe they will lose ONE game!!!

:silly:

:smiley1: Yeah... I thought that once...back in '98 I think. I gave up after that. :please_y:

[Hector]

That should give you an 8-8 season then, right? :grin:

:silly: :smiley1:

[Hector]

did you forget you lost a key player in the secondary this year? ;) I'm sure River's has noticed

I'm taking his spot...

:smiley1: :smiley1: :smiley1:

[Brad]

It's debatable as to whether the Bears are considered a founding NFL team since they were the Decatur Staleys before changing their name and town a few years after the NFL started, but seems like it is splitting hairs. The Cardinals take credit for being the oldest franchise since they have never changed their last name since the beginning. With that said, I would say the Bears probably are the 2nd most successful NFL franchise next to the Green Bay Packers (I only give the edge to Green Bay for Super Bowl plus NFL Championship wins). Even though the Bears haven't won many Super Bowls they were almost impossible to beat in the 1930's and 1940's. The Redskins went up against them 4 times (1937, 1938, 1940, 1942) and each won two. Of course most people who know old NFL know the Bears absolutely crushed the Redskins in the 1940 Championship 73-0 keep in mind that the Redskins had an excellent team that year....unbelievable.

You and I have discussed that before. I think since the team is still owned by the same family that it keeps the lineage. They actually moved to Chicago in 1921 then changed the name the following year since part of the deal of giving the team to George Halas was keeping the Staley name for one year as advertising for the Staley Starch Company. Halas choose the name Bears in hopes of working off the success of the Cubs who actually won a game or two back then.
:smiley1:

Halas also went to the University of Illinois which is where the Bears navy and orange colors came from. And as an FYI the Cardinals were actually the Racine Cardinals in 1920 when they joined the league. They officially became the Chicago cardinals in 1922 when they moved their home games to Comiskey Park.

[Adam West]

Most early NFL teams picked names from the local baseball teams. Chicago Bears/Cubs, Detroit Lions/Tigers, Boston Braves (now the Redskins)/Boston Braves, Pittsburgh Steelers (they were origninally called the Pirates). There has been some controversy as to whether the Redskins were an original team or not. They started off as the Duluth Eskimos, then became the Orange/Newark Tornadoes (they changed names but can't remember which one was first). George Preston Marshall bought the franchise and moved them to Boston as the Boston Braves, then moved to Fenway Park and changed their name to Boston Redskins (a combo of wanting to keep the Indian theme, associate themselves with the Boston Red Sox, and Boston being Beantown). The owner was fed up with poor attendance and moved them to Washington in 1937. I don't think they have been acknowledged as an original team because there was a one year break between the Tornadoes removing themselves from the NFL and the now Redskins buying the franchise one year later. Interesting stuff. I think the Green Packers joined the NFL in 1921 and are the oldest team of not changing their name or city. That old NFL stuff is pretty interesting.

[Brad]

I think the Green Packers joined the NFL in 1921 and are the oldest team of not changing their name or city. That old NFL stuff is pretty interesting.

You are correct. The Packer's also have an interesting history. They were first owned by the Indian Packing Company (hence the name) which was bought out by the Acme Packing Company, based in Illinois. The company was bought the same year the Pack joined the NFL which was 1921 so technically the Packers as far as the NFL goes were owned by an Illinois business and their plant was in Chicago. Lot's of irony there.
:smiley1:

The Packers were caught using college players under assumed names. Back then college players were viewed as better players then the pros. The NFL pulled their franchise. I remember the name John Clair as the original owner of the team and the person the league took the team away from. I also read that George Halas was adamant about keeping the team in Green Bay as he already saw what the rivalry could be (he was a true visionist) and helped make sure that the league awarded the team to Curly Lambeau. The fee was $50 which Curly didn't have but they still awarded him the team and I believe he payed the fee at a later time possibly with help from some financial backers.

Then in the 1930s a fan fell at the original City Stadium and sued. He won $5000 which put the team into receivership. There were two prominent businessman who put up some of the money and rally(s) raised the rest to buy back the team. The team was then put into a trust held by the local American Legion group which is what made them into a community owned team. I also believe that the initial team colors were blue and gold taken from the colors of Notre Dame since that was where Curly went to college.

The funny thing is that some of this has been "whitewashed" if you try and read about the teams history. Some internet sites only mention that they "ran into financial trouble" rather then that they were caught cheating. I read most of this a long time ago in a book about the Packers that my good friend owned and let me read. He is a big Packer fan and it was a fan type of book with a lot of history. So my apologies if some of the info is incorrect but that is what I remember reading. Either way the history of the NFL is very interesting.
:smile:

[Adam West]

I always see old football programs where the previous NFL World Champions would play an exhibition game against College All-Stars and think "Is this really a competitive game?" I guess so. The Redskins have their own embarassing past (forget about the name). For decades, they were the furthest South of any NFL team and basically had a fan base that stretched all the way down to Florida and across the entire South. The original owner refused to sign a black football player until he was forced to in the 1960's That's how the Redskins ended up with Bobby Mitchell who went on to become a HOF player. I have heard him talk about the way he was treated by fans when he first joined the team and it is an embarassing piece of NFL history that often gets buried but is the unfortunate truth.

[Brad]

I always see old football programs where the previous NFL World Champions would play an exhibition game against College All-Stars and think "Is this really a competitive game?" I guess so. The Redskins have their own embarassing past (forget about the name). For decades, they were the furthest South of any NFL team and basically had a fan base that stretched all the way down to Florida and across the entire South. The original owner refused to sign a black football player until he was forced to in the 1960's That's how the Redskins ended up with Bobby Mitchell who went on to become a HOF player. I have heard him talk about the way he was treated by fans when he first joined the team and it is an embarassing piece of NFL history that often gets buried but is the unfortunate truth.

You're right. That pros vs college all star game always brought in big money comparatively! I think you and I could run an entire section on the NFL especially as it pertains to the history of the league and the teams.
:wink_y:

I always guessed that the college players were better because they were more focused. They trained and practiced much more often. The pro game paid very little so those guys had other jobs and didn't train like they do now. It was so much different back then.

[MIB41]

I think the NFL of today is a class act. They really invest a lot in communities and try to make a difference. And the thing is, they don't have to. Fans are going to be there no matter what. The fact the league cares enough to take that extra step makes me love the sport that much more.

[Adam West]

You're right. That pros vs college all star game always brought in big money comparatively! I think you and I could run an entire section on the NFL especially as it pertains to the history of the league and the teams.
:wink_y:

I always guessed that the college players were better because they were more focused. They trained and practiced much more often. The pro game paid very little so those guys had other jobs and didn't train like they do now. It was so much different back then.

True. I remember reading a superstar of the Redskins wanted a $200 a year raise and the owner let him leave the team (I know $200 was a lot of money back then) but really not an outrageous amount to ask.

I'm pretty sure the NFC East and NFC North are the teams of the early NFL. Redskins, Eagles, Giants, Bears, Packers, and Lions. The Cardinals have been around since the beginning and I was even surprised to find that the Steelers are one of the oldest teams around.

[Brad]

I think the NFL of today is a class act. They really invest a lot in communities and try to make a difference. And the thing is, they don't have to. Fans are going to be there no matter what. The fact the league cares enough to take that extra step makes me love the sport that much more.

That's a very good point! And I agree with you. Many players lend their name and time to good organizations. We tend to focus on the few trouble maker players and forget about all the good being done by so many in the league. Jay Cutler has not only turned down high paying endorsements (you can make a ton of money in Chicago as a sports figure) but he also does a ton of charity work. He does it the right way too. No publicity, all done very quietly. One of the many reasons I like Jay so much. Too bad so much of the media want to portray him to be something he is not. All that BS about him "quitting" when he was injured in the playoff game still bothers me. Not only were they wrong but it was a poor job of "reporting" to just jump onto a story without the facts.