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kennermike
Sep 4, '11, 11:01 PM
I just found out today that he wont be produced ?Im bumed:cry:
MIB41
Sep 4, '11, 11:11 PM
Ah sh*t... Now that is tragic. A freakin' great looking figure. I was looking forward to having one. I'm so sorry Craig. I know it wouldn't have happened if you could have prevented it. :ugh_y:
Teemu
Sep 4, '11, 11:11 PM
you will live!
Theres nothing worse than actually seeing an amazing prototype, and then to find out its not happening. I was really looking forward to this as well. Lets hope for the best, as apparently parts of this has been tooled.
VintageMike
Sep 5, '11, 10:18 AM
Just go to the "How are sales going" thread and you will see the story, though you can probably guess. Ultimately they aren't enough of us to make an 8' line a success by ourselves.
Teemu
Sep 5, '11, 10:58 AM
the 3 biggest ones for me are Hawk,Wilma and the Space Vampire (a freakin Vorvon figure was going to be made!)
ironman1188
Sep 24, '11, 1:48 PM
Can't help but wonder if they would have sold better in 1:6 .........
thunderbolt
Sep 24, '11, 2:16 PM
Maybe the fan base for Buck Rogers isn't as great as people think. Personall I can't stand the show.
JediJaida
Sep 24, '11, 3:00 PM
*Sniff* I wanted a Hawk figure!:cry::cry::cry:
Can't help but wonder if they would have sold better in 1:6 .........
It's possible they would have sold better but probably not enough to make the line profitable. The amount of competition along with the high standards set by companies like Hot Toys have made the 1/6 scale market very difficult to be profitable in.
johnmiic
Sep 26, '11, 3:59 AM
I just found out today that he wont be produced ?Im bumed:cry:
Why am I always the last to know?
salb71
Sep 26, '11, 1:39 PM
so does the buck rogers line end at Buck and Tigerman????
so does the buck rogers line end at Buck and Tigerman????
If another company doesn't want to take the line over then yes, it will end with Buck and Tiger Man.
JediJaida
Sep 26, '11, 2:09 PM
That is really too bad. This line had such promise for being big, but then the sodding economy went south and everyone suffered.
Craig is suffering from lack of sales, and we as collectors are suffering from lack of money.
I just hope that ZICA toys isn't finished altogether. It would be a real shame.
That is really too bad. This line had such promise for being big, but then the sodding economy went south and everyone suffered.
Craig is suffering from lack of sales, and we as collectors are suffering from lack of money.
I just hope that ZICA toys isn't finished altogether. It would be a real shame.
ZICA Toys isn't going down for the count even if the Buck Rogers line does. I've still got the female body that I plan to move forward with, plus I've got another project I'm currently working on. There's also some other stuff going on behind the scenes that could make 2012 a very interesting year for ZICA Toys. :wink_y:
DocDrako
Sep 27, '11, 6:08 AM
Wow. That really stinks. I've been wanting Buck & Hawk for a few years now and Zica was my only hope. Too bad. It was a great looking figure.
:down:
GeneralApeGuy
Dec 29, '11, 9:00 PM
Oh, man.......... I wish to have a Hawkman figure go with my Megos and others collection. :(
LMK when ya heard upgrade news, thanks ZICA....
kennermike
Dec 30, '11, 1:02 PM
Oh, man.......... I wish to have a Hawkman figure go with my Megos and others collection. :(
LMK when ya heard upgrade news, thanks ZICA....
yup out of all the so called re-megos outheir in the market this one hurts! I wanted a Hawk figure for 31 years and Zica would have made the ultimate one thats for sure!
Teemu
Dec 30, '11, 4:23 PM
Hawk is likely coming,it just won't be by Zica (pending this new company produces it)
captact
Jan 1, '12, 8:56 PM
I wanted a Hawk (badly) and Draconian Guard,..the details on the prototype were amazing!!!!!!!!!
emeraldknight47
Jan 3, '12, 10:07 PM
Major bummer!!
Type Two
Jan 3, '12, 10:24 PM
Yeah, like Teemu said, "another company" bought the molds and will hopefully produce Hawk in 2012.
Yeah, like Teemu said, "another company" bought the molds and will hopefully produce Hawk in 2012.
They haven't bought anything yet. The deal is still pending.
Type Two
Jan 4, '12, 9:51 AM
Haha! OK, how's this:
"Another company is in the process of negotiating to buy the molds and, if that deal goes through, they might make a ZICA-type Hawk figure at some point in the future. Therefore, there is still a chance that the previously revealed, excellent head-sculpt of Hawk will someday be released on a licensed action figure."
:wink_y:
Cmonster
Jan 4, '12, 10:12 AM
"Another company is in the process of negotiating to buy the molds and, if that deal goes through, they might make a ZICA-type Hawk figure at some point in the future. Therefore, there is still a chance that the previously revealed, excellent head-sculpt of Hawk will someday be released on a licensed action figure."
And if it's not, we'll make our own. :wink:
SC
Haha! OK, how's this:
"Another company is in the process of negotiating to buy the molds and, if that deal goes through, they might make a ZICA-type Hawk figure at some point in the future. Therefore, there is still a chance that the previously revealed, excellent head-sculpt of Hawk will someday be released on a licensed action figure."
:wink_y:
Works for me. :smile:
JediJaida
Jan 4, '12, 1:23 PM
Me too.
Mefiboschet
Jan 14, '12, 3:10 AM
The deal is still pending.
I'm just eagerly waiting revery day to receive the news that the deal went through!
Chris
Jan 14, '12, 9:05 AM
And if it's not, we'll make our own. :wink:
SC
Agreed! My only concern is that body suit looks like it would be a real biz-natch to replicate.
If we (as a group) can get that body suit down we could do a movie style "Keaton" Batman.
Mefiboschet
Jan 14, '12, 11:17 AM
Agreed! My only concern is that body suit looks like it would be a real biz-natch to replicate.
If we (as a group) can get that body suit down we could do a movie style "Keaton" Batman.
I could contribute a great looking Mego-scale Hawk sculpt, that I had commissioned a sculptor with some time back.I also have some ideas how to do the breastplate.
But honestly, I'd much rather would like see the ZICA prototypes produced and dump the stuff I have.
Craig already poured so much effort, money and work into this, the molds already exist, etc. I just hope, that that other company will agree to the deal. Craig deserves to be refunded for his efforts and it also would be a shame if the molds etc would never be used.
If I had the money, I'd buy these right away and have them produced.
Chris
Jan 14, '12, 4:14 PM
I'd much rather would like see the ZICA prototypes produced and dump the stuff I have.
Craig already poured so much effort, money and work into this, the molds already exist, etc. I just hope, that that other company will agree to the deal. Craig deserves to be refunded for his efforts and it also would be a shame if the molds etc would never be used.
If I had the money, I'd buy these right away and have them produced.
You're absolutely right.
These figures didn't get the attention they deserved.
starsky
Jan 14, '12, 11:00 PM
the only thing i can think of is that the fan base of buck rogers is dwindling because imho, zica's product is top notch.
will5967
Jan 15, '12, 1:41 AM
the only thing i can think of is that the fan base of buck rogers is dwindling because imho, zica's product is top notch.
That's probably pretty accurate. Although I wouldn't say that the Buck Rogers fan base is really dwindling exactly. Yes and no, really. The license is sort of in the classic Buck Rogers hibernation sleep that you see between Star Wars and Star Trek feature films and/or TV series. I personally LOVE the Glen A. Larson Buck Rogers in the 25th Century effort, but... if you really want to be honest about it, even as a kid watching that wonderful show, I thought a lot of the dialogue in most of the episodes was horrifically cheesy, and the production was definitely slapped together from Battlestar Galactica leftovers and whatever they could scrounge up cheaply from Western Costume. The 2nd season was better, but then again... it wasn't. The show took on a more serious, realistic tone, but... then again... you had an episode with a guy who could remove his head... and the whole Searcher motif seemed just a bit too Star Treky to not even be Star Trek! Of course, I enjoyed the "off think" just as much as any pubescent kid did at the time (and still get a kick out of the fact that a network show in the very early 80s even APPROVED a scene like that), but... in the end, despite all the awesomeness of Erin Grey, Gil Gerard, Glen A. Larson, Mark Lenard (the guy who had to act like he could actually remove his head in that silly, silly episode and STILL managed, through sheer massive talent, I would assume, to even make it half way believable) and so many other stellar qualities that the show had and always will be affectionately known for... it was and still is a pretty camp, almost half hearted attempt at updating the story of the original scifi hero that even predates Flash Gordon, for goodness sake! But yeah... I try not to even think about the loss of the Hawk figure, much less the Draconian Guard that I would still just about kill for. It hurts too much because I, like the rest of you, would definitely be making good and sure the project was actually going to go ahead to the manufacturing stage... if I had the money to fully back it, that is. Sigh....
JediJaida
Jan 15, '12, 9:10 AM
If ANY of us had the money we'd give it to Craig so that he could keep on giving us these gorgeous figures.
I'd LOVE to see him do a Classic Trek Sarek, which hasn't been done with the Retro line yet.
With his ambassadorial outfit, on a new, improved ZICA male base body. It'd be killer!
will5967
Jan 15, '12, 10:27 AM
If ANY of us had the money we'd give it to Craig so that he could keep on giving us these gorgeous figures.
I'd LOVE to see him do a Classic Trek Sarek, which hasn't been done with the Retro line yet.
With his ambassadorial outfit, on a new, improved ZICA male base body. It'd be killer!
You got ALL that right!
JediJaida
Jan 15, '12, 11:43 AM
Thank you.
will5967
Jan 15, '12, 11:53 AM
Thank you. No problem! :smile:
starsky
Jan 15, '12, 3:34 PM
yeah i agree. it's just sad to see the best well made figure/ line not be successful. really goes against all logic!
Teemu
Jan 15, '12, 6:56 PM
yeah i agree. it's just sad to see the best well made figure/ line not be successful. really goes against all logic!
Its more so the Economy itself and the competition of so many other products out there to buy.
If this line came out in the late 80's, late 90's and possibly early 2000's...
We would of had Buck,TigerMan,Hawk,Kane,Draco Guard,Wilma,Twiki,The Vorvon,and Queen Ardala by now! plus a series 3 and 4...with vehicles like Starfighter and Hawk's Ship and probably a command center base dock produced...
Will this new company take over this line? I don't have hopes for it to truely happen.So much talk in the Toy World,but ALOT doesn't get done.
JediJaida
Jan 15, '12, 7:20 PM
I hope so, not just for the line's sake, but for Craig's.
This has been a big dream of his for more than three years, and it had to have been a HUGE letdown when the figures didn't sell as well as he wanted them to.
I hope that this new project he's working on, aside from selling the Buck Rogers line works out.
I really want to find out what it is, just to sate my curiosity.
Saroyan
Jan 19, '12, 2:06 PM
I just got a Buck and Tiger- what can I say but freakin WOW!! I didn't expect the level of detail and quality !! These two figures are off the charts!!
will5967
Jan 19, '12, 7:42 PM
Buck and Tigerman are pretty awesome, aren't they? Tigerman's boots are a little disappointing, but that's really my only issue with either figure. If anyone knows any tips, tricks or maybe just a simple fix for how to get Tigerman to actually stand up in those boots, please let me know.
Buck and Tigerman are pretty awesome, aren't they? Tigerman's boots are a little disappointing, but that's really my only issue with either figure. If anyone knows any tips, tricks or maybe just a simple fix for how to get Tigerman to actually stand up in those boots, please let me know.
Unfortunately this issue with the boots happened because the factory wasn't paying attention to my notes. The soles should have been cast in hard plastic but as you can see that didn't happen.
Try bending the soles downward and then apply heat with a hair dryer. Hold them in that position until they cool down and it might fix the problem. I know this method has worked before so it's worth a shot.
Craig
will5967
Jan 19, '12, 9:38 PM
Unfortunately this issue with the boots happened because the factory wasn't paying attention to my notes. The soles should have been cast in hard plastic but as you can see that didn't happen.
Try bending the soles downward and then apply heat with a hair dryer. Hold them in that position until they cool down and it might fix the problem. I know this method has worked before so it's worth a shot.
Craig
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! That is EXACTLY the kind of helpful comment I was looking for. It's so easy for folks on slap dash comment and run talk boards to get bent out of shape and think they're firing a shot off the port bough right back at ya - when someone is simply making a statement or asking an innocent question. Either way, that sounds like a FABULOUS fix to try and I sincerely appreciate the info. I haven't done a review of the Buck and Tigerman figures I'm way behind in getting to for my site, but when I do, I will definitely put that info up, if I may. And thanks again for the true professionalism, Craig. It speaks very, very well of you. Heck, the quality of the figures themselves pretty much does that, but it's nice to know why that small problem didn't quite make it through the manufacturing stage. Noted and very, very much appreciated. :yes:
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! That is EXACTLY the kind of helpful comment I was looking for. It's so easy for folks on slap dash comment and run talk boards to get bent out of shape and think they're firing a shot off the port bough right back at ya - when someone is simply making a statement or asking an innocent question. Either way, that sounds like a FABULOUS fix to try and I sincerely appreciate the info. I haven't done a review of the Buck and Tigerman figures I'm way behind in getting to for my site, but when I do, I will definitely put that info up, if I may. And thanks again for the true professionalism, Craig. It speaks very, very well of you. Heck, the quality of the figures themselves pretty much does that, but it's nice to know why you that small problem didn't quite make it through the manufacturing stage. Noted and very, very much appreciated. :)
You're more than welcome and I hope I was able to offer a solution. :)
If the line gets picked up by this other company I'll be sure to tell them not to let the same mistake happen with the Draconian Guard's boots.
will5967
Jan 19, '12, 9:49 PM
Oh! Don't even tempt me! Don't REMIND me! That unproduced Draconian Guard dances in my Christmas dreams like... like... the old man's beloved Leg Lamp from A Christmas Story!
will5967
Jan 19, '12, 9:53 PM
"Only one thing in the world could've dragged me away from the soft glow of electric sex gleaming in the window." And that would pretty much be more additions to the ZICA line of Buck Rogers action figures.... :smiley1:
kennermike
Jan 20, '12, 3:25 PM
You're more than welcome and I hope I was able to offer a solution. :)
If the line gets picked up by this other company I'll be sure to tell them not to let the same mistake happen with the Draconian Guard's boots.
Man Craig I hope Hawk gets made?
THE FALCON
Jan 28, '12, 4:59 AM
Damn, I was hoping for a Twiki. Wish Hawk was made before Tiger Man. Oh well.
MIB41
Jan 29, '12, 10:25 PM
I smell Hawk making a come back. Call me crazy...
Mefiboschet
Jan 31, '12, 2:45 AM
I smell Hawk making a come back. Call me crazy...
Do you smell a Draconian Guard as well?
MIB41
Jan 31, '12, 8:38 AM
Do you smell a Draconian Guard as well?
Possibly! Yes!
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