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>This is about the supreme court's decision to throw out a California law preventing the sale of violent video games to people under 18, right?
Yup; and the comment about how it'd be okay to ban sales of stuff for sexual content. Although you really got to see the example they used on the Daily Show.
Thank goodness for youtube. I haven't seen the Daily Show in a few weeks.
Sooooo it's okay for kids to see somebody ripped in half so long as they don't see boobies? Does that make sense to anyone?
I have the original Mortal Kombat game for SNES and I remember my mother thinking it was too violent, but what I just saw on that Daily Show clip takes the cake. They shouldn't even sell that to adults lol.
Never could stand the daily show. The host is way too smug, smarmy and in love with himself. Makes my skin crawl.
Anyhoo...All the decision means is video games are recognized as an artform and deserves the same protection under the law as movies and music.
And isn't this topic dangerously close to politics?
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Thank goodness for youtube. I haven't seen the Daily Show in a few weeks.
Sooooo it's okay for kids to see somebody ripped in half so long as they don't see boobies? Does that make sense to anyone?
I have the original Mortal Kombat game for SNES and I remember my mother thinking it was too violent, but what I just saw on that Daily Show clip takes the cake. They shouldn't even sell that to adults lol.
I know, right? But I think it tends to be a cultural thing. When generalizing cultural differences between Americans and Canadians the fact that American's are more offended by sex then violence comes up often. Again, it's a total generalization and I don't mean to create any political discussion in defense for or against that way of thinking. I just think it's interesting. I mean, we're so much alike in so many other ways.
A recent example, the title of the movie "Zack And Miri Make a Porno" was extremely controversial in the US. In Canada I don't recall hearing any problems (other than the problem that that movie was horrendously bad, of course.)
Sex scares people a lot more than violence, and I've never been able to figure out why.
>what I just saw on that Daily Show clip takes the cake
It's like a 70's action film brought to life, with an effects budget. I can see not wanting your kids looking at that, but I think a key point that doesn't come up in debates over it is that the median age for gamer is now 34. I can see concerned citizens overlooking that bit; and as a 40 year old, I really don't need my entertainment sanitized.
I remember when this debate started, and it was proposed that maybe some sort of ratings system was in order. That's what made me feel mmmaaayyyybbbeeee the folks arguing over it were a wee bit out of touch. (Considering the ratings system has been in place for 15 years, is it?)
....and I did laugh over Jon Stuart's comment as to how Shwartzenegger has been trying to protect kids from violent images....
I remember when this debate started, and it was proposed that maybe some sort of ratings system was in order. That's what made me feel mmmaaayyyybbbeeee the folks arguing over it were a wee bit out of touch. (Considering the ratings system has been in place for 15 years, is it?)
I honestly don't know, because I really am out of touch!
I've seen ratings on games for a while I guess, but I assumed that those were kind of volunteered ratings created within the video game industry and parental suggestions.
When they're talking about creating a ratings system aren't they saying they want a regulatory board and legal enforcement to back it up?
>When they're talking about creating a ratings system aren't they saying they want a regulatory board and legal enforcement to back it up?
I suspect, yeah; that it's more about who gets to decide on those ratings than having them at all. The current one was done by the industry itself.... I THINK as a result of the "Mortal Kombat is evil" hearings of the 90's.
It is probably just a cultural thing. I have a 16 year old son who plays a lot of video games but I'm not much of a gamer myself. I know this may sound odd to many but I really don't have an issue with him playing war type violent games or ones with the occasional curse word here or there but do have an issue with sexual games. Most of it probably has to do with my own upbringing. My dad was Korean War vet so for me hearing some pretty graphic real life stories along with a few peppered words here and there was normal and I was once 16 and looked at magazines but probably in retrospect have been disappointed if my dad handed those magazines to me at that age. I know it probably sounds strange and it's just my own upbringing so I don't mean to be judgmental or intolerant...it is just an awkward kind of thing for me personally. I'm sure one day the US will catch up with the rest of the boob free world.
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It is probably just a cultural thing. I have a 16 year old son who plays a lot of video games but I'm not much of a gamer myself. I know this may sound odd to many but I really don't have an issue with him playing war type violent games or ones with the occasional curse word here or there but do have an issue with sexual games. Most of it probably has to do with my own upbringing. My dad was Korean War vet so for me hearing some pretty graphic real life stories along with a few peppered words here and there was normal and I was once 16 and looked at magazines but probably in retrospect have been disappointed if my dad handed those magazines to me at that age. I know it probably sounds strange and it's just my own upbringing so I don't mean to be judgmental or intolerant...it is just an awkward kind of thing for me personally. I'm sure one day the US will catch up with the rest of the boob free world.
We never had any porn in the house (to my knowledge), and I'm not sure my parents would have been cool with me checking out porn, but I don't think it ever came up.
I'm mostly talking about mainstream entertainment. I don't recall a single time my parents didn't allow me to watch something because of violence or sexual content. I think they didn't want me to watch "Porky's" when they got that video, but I don't remember them really putting up a fight when I did watch it. Who knows - maybe it would have been different if I had a sister, but we were all boys.
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