Smallville's final run

[Earth 2 Chris]

Spoilers, of course!

Last night began the final run of new Smallvilles. It was a well-done episode, with John Schneider doing an excellent turn as a different Jonathan Kent. It was nice to see him get a send-off with some hope attached.

I still think they killed off Jonathan too early in the series. I know Clark was supposed to grow up and move on from the farm...but he really didn't. I guess they removed the character to put more focus on Clark/Lex/Lana and give the illusion of progressing Clark into Superman, but it somehow became more of a stumbling block than a help. Schneider kept the series grounded while he was on it. No matter how out there the plots got, he was able to set things right with a few glances and a word of wisdom or two. Long way from air-headed Bo Duke!

The previews for the finale keep giving me goosebumps. I hope they deliver on what they are obviously promising.

Chris

[ScottA]

I missed it last night and will have to find it on-line. I think this is going to be a fun run.

[VintageMike]

From the looks of it the show will definitely be going out on a high note for sure.

[The Bat]

Great episode! They're definitely going out with a BANG!:yes:

[Earth 2 Chris]

Was almost hoping he would have grabbed Jonathan and brought him back for Martha and himself.

I thought the same thing. Who knows, maybe he would have if he wasn't jerked out of there. Of course I guess he can get back there via the Fortress...

I kind of agree on the Booster thing, but maybe Clark will learn a lesson from Booster about having some sort of public image as a hero, just not to Booster's extremes.

Chris

[The Bat]

Was almost hoping he would have grabbed Jonathan and brought him back for Martha and himself.

That was my first thought too!:yes: But Clark did tell Him to go find the Martha of that World. Maybe he thought it would be selfish to bring him back.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Man, it was like an issue of the old Joker comics come to life.

As opposed to spinning the Earth backwards just so your girlfriend doesn't die?:biggrin:

Chris

[jimsmegos]

That was my first thought too!:yes: But Clark did tell Him to go find the Martha of that World. Maybe he thought it would be selfish to bring him back.

Plus he's not the same Jonathon. Not the same history. But with Clark setting Clark Luthor straight who knows? Maybe the Kent family can be rebuilt in that other universe?

[Jerry68]

Has anyone found this episode online? I searched and can't find it.

[The Bat]

Now maybe I missed something but I was under the impression that Jonathan & Martha were never married on that Earth? So why was she listed as Martha Kent on the mailbox? Did she leave him?

I think they were married...but Jonathan did say that Martha left him.:sad:

[madmarva]

Jonahan said the meteor shower messed up the farm and left him bitter and desperate so Martha left him. So they were married.

Didn't really like Clark and Lois' decision at the end. They didn't have to do that to move to Metropolis. I get the metaphorical moving on meaning, but it didn't seem to be a very Clark thing to do.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Well, in the Silver Age books, the Kents sold the farm while Clark was a young boy, and moved to town so they could run the general store. I think Clark kept the house in town after his parents died. He preserved it just as it was...which is actually kind of creepy, and just a waste of money on a reporter's salary living in a big city.

He eventually sold the farm in Superman IV, if you want to count that as happening.:yeah:

I don't think it's too far fetched for him to sell it. And crazy Jonathan's jacked priorities helped spur him on. Plus, it's of course a big metaphor that our time in Smallville is soon over.

Chris

[Earth 2 Chris]

Well, I'd watch a series with Booster Gold. This guy totally sold it.

Nice appearance by Ted Kord. I'm glad they didn't make him evil. Although poor Dan Garrett got the shaft.

Blue Beetle was a little underused, but then again this was Booster's story. He looked better than the stills led us to believe.

I know it's the point of her character, but I REALLLLLY hate Cat Grant on here. I hope she is done.

Nice phone booth moment. We're almost there....

And the Lex commercial. Did you see the symbol?


Chris

[ScottA]

This one was really good.

[jimsmegos]

TV weather man ruined our viewing. Kept breaking into the show over and over and over. I hate TV weather men (or women). It is the most pointless, waste of broadcast time EVER! The scroll at the bottom of the screen is good enough. I do not need to hear some yahoo rattle and babble on and on about what happened earlier and what might happen later. If a tornado is about to drop on my head the last thing I need is this ******'s opinion on the matter. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I've always felt this way. Even when I have to do I even tell the audience "Never trust a TV weather man. Ever. Myself included. All forecasts come from the National Weather Service. period. All the rest is fluff and pretty pictures that will most likely be wrong in 48 hours let alone 7 days out.

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. radio is just as bad these days.

[The Toyroom]

Awesome episode! Everything clicked...right down to the Booster tees! One of the best episodes of the season IMO...

[madmarva]

I've got an 2 hour's worth of weather and Super Doppler bullcrap reports on my DVR instead of Smallville and Friday Night Lights. Thank goodness for Hulu.

[Joe90]

I haven't followed the series for a few years. I enjoyed it and found the departures from canon were actually really well done. I've got the first few seasons on DVD and I'm thinking I'll probably wind up getting the rest of the series.

[The Bat]

LEX LUTHOR SMALLVILLE FINALE TEASER!:2thumbsup:

Lex Luthor Smallville Finale Teaser | Superhero Hype (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/166485-lex-luthor-smallville-finale-teaser)

And a Picture of the Suit at the Fortress of solitude!

[kingdom warrior]

Last nights smallville was freeking awesome.....

[The Bat]

Can't wait until next week's episode! It showed Zod in the Phantom Zone!:yes:

[Earth 2 Chris]

"Dominion" was a total departure from last week's "Booster". Very dark, but a good episode. Seeing Clark in a red cape was a kick. Reminded me a bit of the "savage" Superman from that great JLU episode. I liked what they did with Zod. Interesting nods to Orion at the end. I look forward to seeing where this is going.

The promos for the finale really do seem to be pointing to us seeing Welling in the suit. I hope they don't disappoint.

Chris

[Nostalgiabuff]

last nights ep was really well done. lot's of action. good to see Ollie back. Lois is so freaking hot. loved that seen in the apartment where she is only wearing one of Clarks shirts. :wink_y:

[The Bat]

I liked what they did with Zod.

Chris

Now, that me see if I understood this correctly. Zod said "when he got to the Phantom Zone, he had an unexpected surprise...he met himself." Clark said..."the original Zod Phantom". I assume this means that they merged...and now they share the same Body. Which means the Clone has all the memories of the original Zod, as well as his own. So essentially...there is only ONE Zod now!?

[The Toyroom]

So essentially...there is only ONE Zod now!?

There is only ONE Zod...and his name is Terrance Stamp :wink: The rest are just wannabees :smiley1:

[madmarva]

Finally got to see the Booster episode on hulu and it was really good. Johns wrote a great script and the guy that played Booster really nailed the part. Blue Beetle was a bit to mechanical /robotic in his movements for me, but this was an excellent episode.

The Zod episode reminded me a lot of the old Star Trek episode where the landing party had to fight like gladiators. I really haven't cared for Smallville's version of Zod. But it was a nice battle between GA and Clark.

[VintageMike]

This final run has been phenomenal, can't wait for the finale!

[Earth 2 Chris]

Well, CW didn't show a new trailer, but Canada's Space Channel did:

Smallville SPACE Channel Promos | KSiteTV (http://www.ksitetv.com/6409/smallville-finale-space-channel-promo/)


WOW, lots of exciting, head-scractching stuff there. I think they may go a bit existential here...

Chris

[jimsmegos]

Thanks for sharing Chris.... I am so very looking forward to Friday night! Count me off the radar from 7P-9P CST 05/13/11!

[Earth 2 Chris]

Yeah, I'm turning off all the phones and pulling the shades!!!

Some really interesting things we get a glimpse of there (SPOILERS)


1. Chloe reading a Smallville comic to a young child (with Clark on the bridge, right before Lex's Porsche hits him, from the pilot)

2. What looks to be Apokolips, shooting a beam at the Earth from a Fire Pit

3. Jonathan Kent WITH Clark and Martha, in the present (stills from the episode show him sitting next to Martha a Lois and Clark's wedding)

4. Lex killing Tess (this one is really quick, hard to tell)

5. Jonathan handing Clark the Superman suit in the Fortress

And lots of other cool, quick snippits. WOW!!!

Chris

[The Toyroom]

Looks like this is going to be worth the 10 year journey.....

[Brue]

so i missed some episodes from seasons 6-9. where did the suit come from that we see in the fortress?

i have to wait until tuesdays to see these because i watch them online. ARGH

i thought booster episode was AWESOME
the Zod episode was great but i was wincing during most b/c my kids were watching.

the final regular episode - lois empowered slightly annoyed me. i don't care for Durance (OK visually she is fine) and i just don't think we need a second Lois gets powers episode. did they forget they already did that? i watched to see the legion of doom who we only got a glimpse of - oh well, i suppose this was just a set up for the finale.

i did like the starro inclusion but lois knowingly puts it on while she has super powers STUPID -especially since her choice was put it on now and kill clark yourself or just don't and let clark deal with the bad guys. it's not like they are coming in the next 20 minutes. oh no wait - she thought for sure toyman was telling teh trut and no harm would come to clark. please.

nice to see other Supers working in this, though a little silly. GA has 2 collapsible bows? supergirl needs it? and she can use it that accurately?

so next episode: - Lex, Darkseid et al, Toyman, metallo, capt cold, roulette, dark archer, grundy, manta -YES!

note there is an empty chair at teh legion of doom. and i would say it is NOT for toyman but rather for Lex.

the suit and i'd assume flight

i am leaning Legion of Superheroes for the spin off series

[Earth 2 Chris]

My wife called "out of character" on Lois putting that Starro thing on, and I kind of agree.

I love Durance's Lois. The first Lois that I can totally believe a Superman could fall for, and not just for her looks either. She's got spunk without the overdose of...well...crankiness that others have displayed. And she's believable in her romance with Clark without breaking into mindless poetry (can you read my mind?)

She's my favorite Lois, bar none. Sorry Terri.

Chris

[jimsmegos]

The suit came from Martha Kent. I'm thinking Season 9. Jor El snatched it up and encased it at the fortress. I'll have to check with my wife the Smallville junkie around these parts to be sure.

Yeah Durance's Lois is a lot of fun. a little loose considering she's bagged a couple super heroes and one luthor, but whatcha gonna do?

I really have enjoyed the way the writers have told this version of the Superman story. Sure there's been a bit too much soap opera drama over the years but the fun has out weighed the bad.

[Earth 2 Chris]

The suit came from Martha Kent. I'm thinking Season 9. Jor El snatched it up and encased it at the fortress. I'll have to check with my wife the Smallville junkie around these parts to be sure.

Yeah, Martha sends it to Clark in the season finale last year (Season 9). Clark takes it to the Fortress in the opener this year, and Jor-El is a jerkwad to him again and tells him he's not ready blah-blah, and encases it in ice until he cleans up his room and takes the trash out.

Chris

[The Toyroom]

She's my favorite Lois, bar none. Sorry Terri.



Me too...Teri Hatcher is 3rd, Noel Neill is 2nd

[Brue]

Yeah, Martha sends it to Clark in the season finale last year (Season 9). Clark takes it to the Fortress in the opener this year, and Jor-El is a jerkwad to him again and tells him he's not ready blah-blah, and encases it in ice until he cleans up his room and takes the trash out.

Chris

thanks. i do plan to watch / rewatch the series when i have time.

and as far as Erica goes - I do like her as teh character - my issue is more with how the part was crammed in and the path she has taken. if i hear her say "The general..." one more time I will stuck a pen in my ear. they also aren't consistent with her past.

i prefer Teri Hatcher both the actress and definitely the role.

i do like noel alot.

phyllis was a noel stand in and basically non existant.

margo i liked in 1978-80 but rewatching those movies I really do not like her. the fact she was only a cameo in 3 was one of the highlights of that movie.

the Returns lois was a really HUGE casting mistake on top of the fact the part was poorly written.

[samurainoir]

Erica Durance's tough as nails approach is most definitely the post Crisis John Byrne reboot Lois (I believe he added her background as a military brat), while all the live action portrayals of Lois seem to adhere to the Golden and Silver age incarnations (including Hatcher and Kate Bosworth).

This seems in keeping with Smallville's Clark, which is also closer to Byrne's reboot vision that Clark Kent is actually the man, and Superman the disguise. A reversal of the previous fifty years which had Clark Kent as the disguise and Superman as the "real" personality. Mark Waid, Mark Millar, and Grant Morrison of course went back in the other direction within the past decade.

I think Geoff Johns most recent interpretations of the origin find the middle compromise to the two extremes quite well. With Superman and Clark projecting and exaggerating aspects of his personality, and he's only really truly himself when he's with Lois or his parents.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Phyliss Coates played a very independent, bossy, er..somewhat "witchy" Lois. Pretty consistent with the earliest comic portrayal. Noel Neil was very likeable. How could you not like her?

Margot had chemistry with Reeve and worked in the first movie. I didn't care for her as much in the subsequent films.

I REALLY liked Terri Hatcher at the time. She made the show watchable when it went through it's most horrible plots.

Bosworth is just kind of..there. I didn't hate her like some, but she's forgettable. Her greatest contribution to the character is passing out and sliding down the plane escape slide.

Chris

[Cosmicman]

It has to happen soon........
http://i48.tinypic.com/s5zdph.jpg

[samurainoir]

Other than Jerry Seigel's wife Joanne, Lois apparently has her origins in this character, Torchy Blane, and actress Lola Lane. Interesting...

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lctmqdNRxT1qdonct.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0FsD6kqJtQ

[The Toyroom]

Margot Kidder nailed it in those opening scenes at the Planet and with Clark and Supes in "Superman:The Movie"...where I start to lose interest is during the "Can You Read My Mind" scene and during her "death" scene...

[madmarva]

Although it's only a vocal performance, Dana Delaney's Lois in Superman: The Animated Series is my favorite version of the character.

There are things I like about all the Lois' mentioned, though. Kidder really nailed the take-no-prisoners, use-everybody-for-her-own-good aspect of the character, particularly in her earliest scenes in the first movie as Anthony pointed out.

I love Terri Hatcher. Just gorgeous. A little silly, but that was kind of the tone of the show. While Lois and Clark had its faults, I have to say I enjoyed the Clark/Lois relationship.

Erica Durance and Smallville's Lois has grown on me quite a bit. She's developed as an actress and a comedienne. I could see her being really good in the right sitcom. I particularly enjoyed how she picked at Clark and kept him on his toes before they got so lovey dovey the last couple of seasons.

I liked Phyllis Coates a little better than Noel Neil in the Adventures of Superman, mainly because the I liked the earlier shows, which were more serious in tone, than the ones that featured Neil. But I do like Noel Neil. Her tone was lighter and she and Jimmy certainly kept Superman busy with their capers.

As for Bosworth, she is a decent actress, but the part written in Superman Returns is about as far away from any version of Lois we had ever seen. Of course, we've rarely seen Lois as a mom, but Bosworth was forgettable in the movie. Her part could have been as easily named "Generic conflicted love interest" as Lois Lane.

I'm looking forward to Amy Adams in the new film. Just hope the part is written well.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Here is a nice run-down on where the Smallville characters are right now going in to the finale. For those of you who dropped out a while ago (or never watched much) this should help clear things up.

KryptonSite: Your Source For "Smallville" News And Information (http://www.kryptonsite.com/)

Chris