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Adam West
Dec 16, '10, 8:27 AM
I am not a Jets or a Dolphins fan but was shocked when I saw this on the highlight reel.

Apparently, there is additional news coming out about it insinuating that this was purposely set up and not just a poor spur of the moment decision. My personal opinion is this should result in immediate termination. This is just ridiculous.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Sal-Alosi-s-devious-act-was-not-a-coincidence?urn=nfl-296526
kingdom warrior
Dec 16, '10, 8:44 AM
Yup feel the same. He and all those guys should be fired. Totally unprofessional....
Trappy Trek Freak
Dec 16, '10, 9:02 AM
I can't stand the Jets and I hope my Steelers beat the crap out of them this weekend!!!
MIB41
Dec 16, '10, 9:13 AM
I think he should have been fired on the spot and the head coach fined as well. The head coach should be responsible as well for everyone on his coaching staff. It was childish and really made the team look bad, especially happening so soon after the head coach made a fool of himself the previous week by mouthing off to the Patriots and then getting his arse handed to him. I think there was alot of good will given to the Jets after last years surprise playoff run with their first year QB. But the way in which matters have played out this year, I think it's safe to say the bloom is off the rose. :muh:
saildog
Dec 16, '10, 9:16 AM
Apparently, there is additional news coming out about it insinuating that this was purposely set up and not just a poor spur of the moment decision.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Sal-Alosi-s-devious-act-was-not-a-coincidence?urn=nfl-296526

When I first heard this reported and debated, I was of the opinion that any of us, at any time, can get caught up in the moment and do something stupid. Especially when it comes to competition. However, setting something like that up and involving others shows an abundance of stupidity and makes it easy to say, "See yaaaaaaaa'.".
megoapesnut
Dec 16, '10, 9:28 AM
Yeah, that's premeditation and opens up a whole other can of worms. I doubt he will keep his job.
jimsmegos
Dec 16, '10, 11:12 AM
Can him. He's just lucky he didn't get his knee cap ripped out from the force of the runner. Pics of the guy shows that this dude appears to be a totally cocky ****** to his core. The sad part is that most likely if he is canned he'll wind up coaching on the high school or college level.
spaceace35
Dec 16, '10, 1:07 PM
the only reason he hasnt been fired yet is if he does get fired he will spill his guts about what else the jets are doing
megocrazy
Dec 16, '10, 1:26 PM
I'm a Pats fan and really can't stand the Jets but firing him is way too much. It was stupid, but no way he should be fired any more than Richard Seymour should have been for punching Rothlesberger a couple of weeks ago. They were both fined $25,000 dollars for wrongly hitting/tripping a player. If the fines had been made relative to their annual income's Seymour would have been fined $1.7 million. Plus Alosi got suspended four games which is gonna be 25% of his annual salary. It was stupid but no way should he be paying this kinda price for what he did.
toyman
Dec 16, '10, 2:18 PM
He should be fired,what if this had ended the players career?He should not be able to have a chance to do this to anyone else.
megoapesnut
Dec 16, '10, 2:42 PM
Stupid is making a bad, on the spot, decision to do something stupid. Doing what he allegedly did by lining people up to interfere with a player is premeditated cheating and is cause for loss of job, IMO.
Zemo
Dec 16, '10, 4:02 PM
I'm a life long fin fan and its was cheap as it comes, at first I thought he should be fired on the spot, but I have softened on that and think he got what he deserves "under the jets game plan"

Also Woody Hayes game to mind rotfl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmoIjMr1BZs
jwyblejr
Dec 16, '10, 6:10 PM
I'm not saying what the coach did was right but sometimes the players need to be careful when they go along the sidelines like that. Never know what kind of bone headed thing will happen.
megocrazy
Dec 16, '10, 11:04 PM
Stupid is making a bad, on the spot, decision to do something stupid. Doing what he allegedly did by lining people up to interfere with a player is premeditated cheating and is cause for loss of job, IMO.

They brought this exact thing up today on Boston sports radio. For those not aware of how serious sports radio here gets take every where else in the world and multiply by 20. It has more listeners than the music stations. WEEI is broadcast on 4 different frequencies in Boston, Providence RI, Springfield MA, and Maine. We're really serious, we hate the Jets, and most think he's being over punished for this.

If you watch any game you will see exactly what they did, done on every sideline. They've got a ton of video of other teams sidelines. There is a box, much like the coaches box in baseball, that they are supposed to stand in. They were not but that is not uncommon. It has become a topic only because of what happened.

I can't believe I'm defending the Jets! The lining up and where they were standing is not unseen. It truly was just a stupid impulse thing. He was an idiot, but it was hardly the worst thing that's happened in football. Fine him and let him get on with his life.

I can't wait to see what they do to Favre if they decide he sent lude pictures to that Jet assistant. Now that's a premeditated dumb *** thing to do for a married guy that has a wife battling cancer at home. That decision should come down in a couple of days.
toys2cool
Dec 17, '10, 12:56 AM
what an idiot, he should get fired, and next time they face Miami i bet this guy won't show up
UnderdogDJLSW
Dec 17, '10, 5:35 PM
Long time Phins fan, too. What was doled out as punishment was enough IMO.
saildog
Dec 17, '10, 6:14 PM
Also Woody Hayes game to mind rotfl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmoIjMr1BZs

Yeah, that cost him his job, but it was the final straw in a string of punching reporters, assaulting game officials, and creating a culture where his players were known to punch opposing teams.

One of Woody's friends once said of him, "Woody's idea of sublimating is to hit someone.":smiley1:

What's amazing to me in watching that clip is how Keith Jackson and Ara Parseghian could call the game and not realize what cleared the benches.

The first thing I thought of when I heard about the Jets incident was Tommy Lewis coming off the bench to tackle Dicky Maegle in the 1954 Cotton Bowl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoCf3WqVyx4

Now, that was spontaneous....he didn't even have a helmet on!

I remember seeing a clip of Tommy Lewis on the Ed Sullivan show and he said something to the effect of, "Mr. Sullivan, I guess I was just so full of Alabama."
Hector
Dec 17, '10, 7:03 PM
The guy deserves a second chance...just like many other thug NFL players have gotten (Michael Vick anyone?)...that assistant coach is just a working stiff...he's not getting millions...this will hurt him and his family...he can't take a financial hit as well as those multi-millionaire players.

Yes, he did a dumbass move...but the end result was not devastating...it's over...just continue with the suspension...but let him work again.

If he's canned...then the NFL is the biggest hypocrite of them all.
saildog
Dec 17, '10, 7:15 PM
The guy deserves a second chance...jut like many other thugs NFL players have gotten (Michael Vick anyone?)...that assistant coach is just a working stiff...he's not getting millions...this will hurt him and his family...he can't take a financial hit as well as those multi-millionaire players.

Yes, he did a dumbass move...but the end result was not devastating...it's over...just continue with the suspension...but let him work again.

If he's canned...then the NFL is the biggest hypocrite of them all.

Hector, I totally see your point and I agree 100%, though I had to change my mind about it (based on your point about the forgiveness of Michael Vick and the position of a lowly "working stiff").

However, I will tell you why I don't think the NFL will see it that way and it points to why they can justify being hypocritical.

They will never have to admit that they bent the rules for Vick or Roethlisburger or any other number of player (as a Superstar and therefore, "Revenue Stream") because what those guys did took place off the field and this was clearly on the field and aimed at an opposing player (as opposed to a dog or a "civilian") . That being the case, they can do whatever they want.
toys2cool
Dec 17, '10, 9:28 PM
**** that, fire his sorry ***! if this would've been the NCAA or HS this dude would be gone

He could've seriously hurt someone, and come on the special teams guys are the ones struggling to make the team so they hardly make crap...so i could careless if he made a little bit of money....so did the guy he hit..plus it wasn't the first time, the other guys said he told them to stand there so he had it planned the whole time
saildog
Dec 17, '10, 9:43 PM
**** that, fire his sorry ***! if this would've been the NCAA or HS this dude would be gone

He could've seriously hurt someone, and come on the special teams guys are the ones struggling to make the team so they hardly make crap...so i could careless if he made a little bit of money....so did the guy he hit..plus it wasn't the first time, the other guys said he told them to stand there so he had it planned the whole time

D, I get your point, too and it is exactly what the NFL will say.

As it relates to Vick...your words, "The guy was a bad *** athlete, he's a jerk but I guess everyone deserves a 2nd chance, now he's working with the Humane Society."

Mego Talk - View Single Post - Breaking news concerning Michael Vick... (http://www.megomuseum.com/community/showpost.php?p=368966&postcount=5)

I'm not trying to play "gotcha". In fact, I have two minds on this subject and I'm seeing a lot of angles. I am just using you as an example of how we (and that apparently includes me), as fans, can make a distinction between "off the field" actions and what takes place on the field AND between the actions of a Regular Joe and a Superstar.
toys2cool
Dec 17, '10, 10:16 PM
D, I get your point, too and it is exactly what the NFL will say.

As it relates to Vick...your words, "The guy was a bad *** athlete, he's a jerk but I guess everyone deserves a 2nd chance, now he's working with the Humane Society."

Mego Talk - View Single Post - Breaking news concerning Michael Vick... (http://www.megomuseum.com/community/showpost.php?p=368966&postcount=5)

I'm not trying to play "gotcha". In fact, I have two minds on this subject and I'm seeing a lot of angles. I am just using you as an example of how we (and that apparently includes me), as fans, can make a distinction between "off the field" actions and what takes place on the field AND between the actions of a Regular Joe and a Superstar.

no i see what you guys mean, but keep in mind Vick's actions weren't on the football field and he still got fired and went to jail...was it enough punishment for what he did? i say hell no, but that's what the law said he had to do and he did it

now i believe this guy should get fired, let him start from fresh somewhere else, if later on he gets another shot then good for him...he's only sorry cause he got caught, i bet anything if there wasn't video to prove it, this idiot would be denying this
saildog
Dec 17, '10, 10:40 PM
Watching Letterman right now and he just equated what this guy from the Jets got busted for to the fact that Favre took an "offensive snap" of his junk (photographic proof exists of both) and what has the NFL done to Favre.

What Favre did was off the field, BUT it was within the jurisdiction of the league.
toys2cool
Dec 17, '10, 10:44 PM
Watching Letterman right now and he just equated what this guy from the Jets got busted for to the fact that Favre took an "offensive snap" of his junk (photographic proof exists of both) and what has the NFL done to Favre.

lol He's retiring anyways so that's why they won't even bother...plus he really didn't break any laws...the chick didn't even care

but what about the other thing the jets did this year, another coach throwing balls towards the hot reporter and pretty much sexually harassing her, it's a low class organization and everyone knows it
Hector
Dec 17, '10, 11:04 PM
**** that, fire his sorry ***! if this would've been the NCAA or HS this dude would be gone

He could've seriously hurt someone, and come on the special teams guys are the ones struggling to make the team so they hardly make crap...so i could careless if he made a little bit of money....so did the guy he hit..plus it wasn't the first time, the other guys said he told them to stand there so he had it planned the whole time

You'd be singing a different tune had that scenario been reversed...a Jet Player and a Dolphin coach...

:smiley1: :smiley1: :smiley1:
Hector
Dec 17, '10, 11:05 PM
Oh yeah...and calm down, Damien...breath in...breath out...

:smiley1:
Hector
Dec 17, '10, 11:10 PM
Michael Vick tortured and killed dogs.

Ben Roethlisberger assaults women.

So a lowly football assistant coach trips a player...now he's worst off than those two NFL stars.

Life is so fair...lol.
saildog
Dec 17, '10, 11:12 PM
lol He's retiring anyways so that's why they won't even bother...plus he really didn't break any laws...the chick didn't even care


Yeah.
I'm a guy that has hated him (as a QB) for most of career right up until last year with the Vikes. If he would have just walked away after that NFC Championship game (and never taken a picture of his bits....Dudes, how about none of us EVER do that...it ain't a picture, it's EVIDENCE), I might have had a soft spot in my heart for him like I have made for countless other players through the years.
Hector
Dec 17, '10, 11:18 PM
no i see what you guys mean, but keep in mind Vick's actions weren't on the football field and he still got fired and went to jail...was it enough punishment for what he did? i say hell no, but that's what the law said he had to do and he did it



That don't make a difference to me...football games are meaningless in the whole scheme of things.

The laws are made by man, and can be changed by man...the powers to be gave Vick a ton of slack...had it been you and I...we would both still be in prison earning 20 cents a day.
Hector
Dec 17, '10, 11:22 PM
lol He's retiring anyways so that's why they won't even bother...plus he really didn't break any laws...the chick didn't even care

but what about the other thing the jets did this year, another coach throwing balls towards the hot reporter and pretty much sexually harassing her, it's a low class organization and everyone knows it

Sorry Damien...you are a Dolphins fan...so anything you say about the Jets will obviously be completely biased...

:smiley1:
Hector
Dec 17, '10, 11:39 PM
Where are you, Damien?

I'm eagerly waiting for your responses...

:silly: :silly: :silly:

:biggrin:
saildog
Dec 17, '10, 11:46 PM
Where are you, Damien?

I'm eagerly waiting for your responses...

:silly: :silly: :silly:

:biggrin:

Yer trying to draw the man out, Hector.

Don't play the part of "Accuser of the Brethren".:smiley1::wink::heart:
toys2cool
Dec 18, '10, 12:09 AM
Oh yeah...and calm down, Damien...breath in...breath out...

:smiley1:

hell no,i'd be saying fire his *** too, i hate cheaters
toys2cool
Dec 18, '10, 12:11 AM
Michael Vick tortured and killed dogs.

Ben Roethlisberger assaults women.

So a lowly football assistant coach trips a player...now he's worst off than those two NFL stars.

Life is so fair...lol.

bro one thing has nothing to do with the other...obviously what they did was wrong and I hate them both for it...but it had nothing to do with football
toys2cool
Dec 18, '10, 12:12 AM
Sorry Damien...you are a Dolphins fan...so anything you say about the Jets will obviously be completely biased...

:smiley1:

yeah i realize that :smiley1:
Hector
Dec 18, '10, 12:27 AM
:smiley1:
Adam West
Dec 20, '10, 2:56 PM
Wow...here's another cheap shot that occurred in an NFL game but this one flew under the radar.

http://http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Another-sideline-tripping-incident-earns-?urn=nfl-297986 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Another-sideline-tripping-incident-earns-?urn=nfl-297986)
toys2cool
Dec 20, '10, 3:48 PM
Wow...here's another cheap shot that occurred in an NFL game but this one flew under the radar.

http://http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Another-sideline-tripping-incident-earns-?urn=nfl-297986 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Another-sideline-tripping-incident-earns-?urn=nfl-297986)

wow!! this one's worse
saucerful
Dec 20, '10, 4:15 PM
I can see the second one happening clearly, but I missed the coach doing something in the first.
toys2cool
Dec 20, '10, 5:13 PM
I can see the second one happening clearly, but I missed the coach doing something in the first.

you can't see him leaning his knee out? he barely does it but it gets the gunner