ZICA Classic Battlestar Galactica ? [Archive]

Mefiboschet

Oct 20, '10, 12:29 PM

I know alot of suggestions for new possible Zica lines have already been made and this one has been brought up before.
BUT with the fantastic pictures of the upcoming ZICA Buck Rogers line, for me a Classic Battlestar Galactica line by ZICA would be the next logical step.
I have been dreaming of mego-scale BSG action figures to go along with my other Megos.
And ZICA definitely has the kind of quality to produce ssuch a retro line in a way, that would appeal to collectors.
I'm sure, there would be enough interest! Anybody agreeing?

JediJaida

Oct 20, '10, 3:25 PM

sprytel

Oct 20, '10, 11:39 PM

As a fan of classic sci-fi, I would agree with you.

However, the "problem" with a BSG line would be: there isn't a lot of figures to make in the first place, all of the colonials wear basically the same uniform, and the Cylons don't lend themselves well to outfits.

And what do you do about Boxy and Muffitt? They are two of the more unique options for figures. But they would require custom tooling, and I doubt they would be big sellers.

Not trying to discourage this line from happening. Just kind of thinking aloud here...

starsky

Oct 21, '10, 12:30 AM

i'm hoping it happens!!

Captain

Oct 21, '10, 12:39 AM

Classic BSG from Zica would be fantastic!! I'm sure Craig and his crew will find a way to do the Cylons justice, although if they "conveniently" forgot about the daggit and the kid, I could live with that!!!

Adama could come with removable beard action for those who like Galactica 80!!?? :smiley1:

bobws

Oct 21, '10, 1:10 AM

Mefiboschet

Oct 21, '10, 1:46 AM

Just because the pilots all wear the same outfit makes it easier to produce. just male and female versions of it. and blue bridge outfits. save the kid and daggitt for last, throw in the doctors,balter,lucifer,count iblis,comnder cain,serena, 3 other female pilotsand you can have about 24 characters i would buy!

That's right! Having several characters with the same outfit wouldn't put me off at all. And Boxey and a Daggit don't have to be in the first or second wave. Go with the man characters first.

And talking of different characters with the sameoutfit, as for the ZICA Buck Rugers line, I wouldn't mind having different headsculpts for Draconian warriors (like an afro-American one). One could use at least two of these guys. Same for starfighter pilots.

Mefiboschet

Oct 21, '10, 2:21 AM

I definitely agree with you. Classic BSG in 8" format is a dream of mine. A BIG dream!

Let's wait and see how the Buck Rogers line does first, before we start piling the requests on Craig's head.

From what I've seen of the headsculpts for BR, if he does get the license for BSG, they would be INCREDIBLE!

Hint, hint Craig!

*g*

Just kidding.

I have no doubt at all, that the Buck Rogers line will be a success. ZICA is setting a complete new standard for detail and quality in the 8" realm!
Taking into consideration, how long such a project takes starting from aquiring rights, first concepts to final production, it might be good to think about BSG now to have it available in a couple of years! :)

Astronut

Oct 21, '10, 7:07 AM

I can see this assortment, definitely. A few cadets, Lorne Greene, a cylon, the "over-acting" black suited bad guy (forgot his name), and that sparkle-headed emperor guy. You could easily get 8 figures out of this line and it would look well-rounded IMO.

Astronut

Oct 21, '10, 7:11 AM

Oh — his name was Baltor!

HardyGirl

Oct 21, '10, 10:23 AM

I'm putting my bid in right now for Zac, Apollo's brother, as played by Rick Springfield! :grin:

SeattleEd

Oct 21, '10, 11:46 AM

^^^ Nice. Then make a custom "Human Touch" Rick Springfield. Or a "Jessie's Girl". :)

PS: not being facetious since I know many a women that are still huge RS fans and would love a doll of him.

Astronut

Oct 21, '10, 11:55 AM

omg lol

HardyGirl

Oct 21, '10, 1:03 PM

bobws

Oct 22, '10, 12:58 AM

He got blown up too early to make a figure of him.:smiley1:
Just kidding, if there is demand he could be made.

starsky

Oct 22, '10, 1:24 AM

where's zica at? :)

ZICA

Oct 22, '10, 7:39 AM

where's zica at? :)

I'm still here, taking it all in. :smile:

samurainoir

Oct 22, '10, 9:01 AM

^^^ Nice. Then make a custom "Human Touch" Rick Springfield. Or a "Jessie's Girl". :)

PS: not being facetious since I know many a women that are still huge RS fans and would love a doll of him.

As recent episodes of Californication have shown us!

You could also do Human Target and the original Nick Knight/Forever Knight customs!

Me, I totally want the Starbuck for Face from the A-Team. Heck, my preference would be for the A-Team over Galactica, but I can see how BSG classic would make sense for Zica.

Captain

Oct 22, '10, 12:15 PM

Since the movie flopped , and Mr. Cannell passed on, the rights to the A-Team might be bargain priced right now??

Sandman9580

Oct 22, '10, 7:37 PM

The A-Team would be amazing. :yes:

weatherwizard-Corey

Oct 22, '10, 9:33 PM

Definately Battlestar Galactica! So many characters... I'd be more apt to buy them than Buck Rogers. I'll probably get Buck and if they come out with Wilma but that's probably it. I liked Buck Rogers as a kid but not as much now. However the "old" Galactica is great for all stages of life! Maybe Apollo will finally have a figure!

Mefiboschet

Oct 23, '10, 4:21 PM

The A-Team would be amazing. :yes:

Well, IMO A-Team figures would be nice, but BSG is a real classic. It also ties it perfect with Buck Rogers. Same company (Universal), producer (Glen A. Larson) and they even used partly the same costumes, ship models and backdrops, not to speak of guest stars appearing in both shows.
I think, Buck Rogers is great and I will definitely get those ZICA figures, but classic BSG has a wider poularity. (Enough advertisement :) )

JediJaida

Oct 23, '10, 4:27 PM

Who knows? There might be enough of a demand for both lines that we can make our own crossover movies with them!

We just need Vipers in the proper size, the Galactica (which would probably take up an entire garage or two.) a couple of shuttles, a landram, some Cylon raiders, and a Basestar. Along with the Hawk flyer, and other assorted space ship paraphernalia.

Fuzzysnail

Oct 23, '10, 11:25 PM

I would sell my soul to see BSG made into a 8" line. Zica is the perfect choice. Starbuck, Apollo,Adama, serena, ty, Baltar, silver cylon, gold cylon, generic Galactica, and Pegasus crew. the line has imense appeal.....and if you can make a viper happen.....WOW!!!. With all the 8" lines that came out recently I am both shocked and apalled BSG has not been made yet.

starsky

Oct 24, '10, 12:19 AM

yeah i hear you man! it would be a dream come true for me!!

Sandman9580

Oct 24, '10, 5:27 AM

Well, IMO A-Team figures would be nice, but BSG is a real classic. It also ties it perfect with Buck Rogers.

A-Team would be cool just because it would add some diversity to the super hero/sci-fi-laden toyscape. But BSG would be amazing too!

Mefiboschet

Oct 24, '10, 10:25 AM

I would sell my soul to see BSG made into a 8" line. Zica is the perfect choice. .....and if you can make a viper happen.....WOW!!!

I'm just sitting here and imagining a ZICA diorama of a Viper in a Galactica launching bay diorama similar to the one ZICA just presented the BR prototypes in at NY Comic con.
Now that would make an absolute childhood dream for me come true!

david_b

Oct 24, '10, 11:01 AM

I'd LOVE the BG snow parkas/suits as a variation..!!!! But will settle for making 'em myself if need be.

david_b

JediJaida

Oct 24, '10, 11:10 AM

We just need to make patterns for them.

don't forget folks, the pants that fit on a regular Mego, will NOT fit on a ZICA, due to differences in waist circumference.

UnderdogDJLSW

Oct 24, '10, 4:31 PM

I too would love Classic Galactica. If it does come to be, I'll wind up broke. Although I could skip the wave Hector and Vector's would be in :smiley1:

JediJaida

Oct 24, '10, 4:43 PM

You and me both. Two great actors doomed to such crumby roles in that episode.

Fuzzysnail

Oct 25, '10, 1:18 AM

I would love to see the viper helmet....mmmmm mmmmm. Come on Craig, hook us up.:silly:

SpaceAgent

Oct 25, '10, 7:58 AM

I'd be on board for original Galactica characters.

Ranger 3

Oct 25, '10, 9:52 AM

A 38" Viper- YES!!

M

HardyGirl

Oct 25, '10, 1:10 PM

As recent episodes of Californication have shown us!

You could also do Human Target and the original Nick Knight/Forever Knight customs!

Me, I totally want the Starbuck for Face from the A-Team. Heck, my preference would be for the A-Team over Galactica, but I can see how BSG classic would make sense for Zica.

Californication made ME blush! :please:

But hey, I loved the original Human Target and Nick Knight! So right on!

Mefiboschet

Oct 26, '10, 1:17 AM

A 38" Viper- YES!!

M

Well, we'd need you to work on this, since you are working on the BR Starfighter and did the the BR hangar display, right?

Didn't you also do a Mego-scale Galatica 80's motocycle?

Gorn Captain

Oct 26, '10, 5:05 AM

I would sell my soul to see BSG made into a 8" line.

Please list it in the marketplace, with pics and a price. Thank you!

Gorn Captain

Oct 26, '10, 5:07 AM

No doubt about it: that line would be awesome. Seeing what Buck Rogers figures from ZICA look like, BSG would undoubtedly blow us away!

samurainoir

Oct 26, '10, 10:48 AM

How well did the most recent 1/6th figures sell through? It might give an indication of the demand and current fanbase for this kind of thing.

http://outlandct.com/catalog/images/classicbsg-apollo.jpg

Gorn Captain

Oct 26, '10, 11:08 AM

The recent 1/6 ones didn't fare well.
Majestic started them off with Apollo, Starbuck, silver and gold Cylon and Adamo, then went out of business. Amok Time wanted to pick up the ball, made a big fuss, simply re-released a couple of them (with only the tiniest of tweaks), then went silent again, though they had made Boomer and Athena prototypes. Face sculpts were OK, but not fantastic.
Somebody please do this line justice!

Mefiboschet

Oct 26, '10, 11:24 AM

The big question I asked myself is: Why didn't do the 12" Majestic figures do well? Was is because of lack of interest on the side of collectors and BSG fans? Or simply because of poor business management?
I recall that it took almost two years from the time, these figures were announced to their finl release. The Majestic Website didn't work properly, wasn't accessible at all at different times.
Amok Time for some reason never went beyond the prototype stage for Tigh, Boomer, Commnder Caine, Athena and maybe some others I can't recall.
I personally think, all of this wasn't due to lack of interest in BSG. If they'd have done Buck Rogers, it would have flopped as well.
The ZICA Buck Rogers project is going on for some time also, but Craig seems to be handling things completely different. There is communication. People get answers, when they ask question. And there is an absolut commitment to quality and detail. That to me makes all the difference and keeps the interest of people high.

Ranger 3

Oct 26, '10, 12:12 PM

Very good points about the Majestic BSG line- I'd agree with everything. Also, I think the final quality of the figures was just a bit short of making them 'must have'. The head sculps were fine, and the hard sculpted parts (boots, blaster, details) were actually VERY good, but the soft goods and fit of the uniform was not great. The detail on the tunics was severely short-cut.

The Cylon, although better, was a similar story- the sculpts were all very good, but the sizes were off, making the whole thing look not quite right.

The problem with classic BSG stuff is that fans have had 30 years to learn the details of the hero costumes, so the bar is set really high.

If the final Majestic figures nailed all the details as much as could be achieved in 1/6 scale, consumers would have sought them out more regargless of the delays and poor custmoer service. The comination of the two was too much.

M

Fuzzysnail

Oct 26, '10, 12:18 PM

Not to mention the price was higher than most collectors want to pay. I bought mine on ebay, discounted. I need a smaller scale. Never been fond of 12"....just not as playable.....they display fine, but I want to take him out and pose him.

Trappy Trek Freak

Oct 26, '10, 12:20 PM

The A-Team would be so cool and I bet would sell better than BTG. Someone should make Dallas then we could shoot JR everyday!!!

Mefiboschet

Oct 26, '10, 12:51 PM

I need a smaller scale. Never been fond of 12"....just not as playable.....they display fine, but I want to take him out and pose him.

Agreed! The 8" scale has a whole different dynamics.

Mefiboschet

Oct 26, '10, 12:55 PM

The problem with classic BSG stuff is that fans have had 30 years to learn the details of the hero costumes, so the bar is set really high.

M

THAT is the reason, why ZICA should work on these. Just look at the detail of the Buck Rogers line.
Read the thread on the Promo pics. Even those, who never were into BR at all, are interested in these figures because of the detail. They are simply a must-have in the 8" realm!

CaptainTrenchcoat

Oct 26, '10, 1:52 PM

I actually like the detail better on 12" figures normally. The 12" BSG figures never looked quite right to me though and never bought any. Even when they have been dropping in price on ebay. From what I have seen of the Buck Rogers figures, they are better sculpted with better accessories. I will definitely be buying these. So if ZICA did BSG in Mego scale, sign me up.

starsky

Oct 26, '10, 2:26 PM

i agree, the 12 inch bsg figures that came out were subpar. some of the head sculpts didnt really look like the actors. but nothing compared to what zica has done with buck rogers in the 8 inch format!

UnderdogDJLSW

Oct 26, '10, 9:02 PM

I love the classic show, but had no desire to try and collect the 12 inch figures. Like others have said, there was just something...off... that shouldn't have been for 12" figures and the starting price. 8" figures would be a 32 year old dream come true.

joyandtomstudios

Oct 26, '10, 9:15 PM

Our studio sculpted the prototypes for the Amoktime BSG figures (Athena/Boomer/Tige/Cain/Lucifer). Amoktime really wants to release these, but there have been a lot of problems along the way. Getting these projects from prototype to store shelves is like trying to cross a minefield blindfolded. It will be a real disappointment if these never get released. At least I have a set of them. Mego scale may prove less troublesome as it seems a majority of BSG fans are looking for collectibles at a lower price point than the 12 inch figures were planned to retail for. I meet Craig at NYCC. Really nice guy with a lot of attention to detail. I'm sure if he decides to take on BSG they will come out great.

http://www.joyandtomstudios.com/images/Portrait_Gallery/Battlestar_Gallery/index.htm

Chris

Oct 27, '10, 7:31 AM

In August I spoke with Amoktime (at a horror show) and the preorders were low for Lucifer and the figure has been scratched. I didn't ask about the other figures.

Gorn Captain

Oct 27, '10, 7:44 AM

I did buy the 12 inch line, and the Cylons remain favorites to me. All I needed to add was their metal skirts, which were missing from the Majestic figures. Apollo and Starbuck were good, but the face sculpts lacked a little "spark" (with the Starbuck paint job being somewhat bland).
I love the 12 inch format, and I think the lack of continuity killed the BSG line, not particularly the quality. Had the line progressed, I would have bought all of them, the only problem being that the Amok Time re-releases were overpriced, IMO. I would have bought a couple of Cylon army builders, if not for the price tag.
If figures like Athena and Boomer make it, I'll still have a good look at the face sculpt before buying. These are not "must have" characters, and I felt that the prototype sculpts again were "not there yet".

Gorn Captain

Oct 27, '10, 7:50 AM

In August I spoke with Amoktime (at a horror show) and the preorders were low for Lucifer and the figure has been scratched. I didn't ask about the other figures.

I can't exactly say old Light Bulb Head is a favorite. Hey, guys, where's Baltar? Throw in a vac formed throne, and you've got a customer right here!
And how about some Ovions and daggits?
With these, you don't even need actor face approval.

How about getting this line going again by including one vac formed (meaning cheap) piece of a Viper?
Collect the whole line, and in the end you have a snapfit Viper!

Jeez, do I have to do ALL the thinking around here....

david_b

Oct 27, '10, 8:06 AM

samurainoir

Oct 27, '10, 1:49 PM

Hokey Smokes! Commander Cain.

http://www.joyandtomstudios.com/images/Portrait_Gallery/Battlestar_Gallery/34/imgMed/900374_press03_001.jpg

Just imagine the Airplane! custom figure!

torgospizza

Oct 27, '10, 2:02 PM

Our studio sculpted the prototypes for the Amoktime BSG figures (Athena/Boomer/Tige/Cain/Lucifer). Amoktime really wants to release these, but there have been a lot of problems along the way. Getting these projects from prototype to store shelves is like trying to cross a minefield blindfolded.
First off, well done--I've always thought those were beautiful and much better than the Apollo and Starbuck figures that were released. Your sculptors are phenomenal. One thing, though--I thought these were released and available for purchase. Is this not so? I'm fairly certain I've seen them for sale around the Net.

Mefiboschet

Oct 27, '10, 3:13 PM

First off, well done--I've always thought those were beautiful and much better than the Apollo and Starbuck figures that were released. Your sculptors are phenomenal. One thing, though--I thought these were released and available for purchase. Is this not so? I'm fairly certain I've seen them for sale around the Net.

You probably saw the pre-order items on the web. I had pre-ordered them also, but they were never delivered.

joyandtomstudios

Oct 27, '10, 3:14 PM

I can't exactly say old Light Bulb Head is a favorite. Hey, guys, where's Baltar? Throw in a vac formed throne, and you've got a customer right here!
And how about some Ovions and daggits?
With these, you don't even need actor face approval.

How about getting this line going again by including one vac formed (meaning cheap) piece of a Viper?
Collect the whole line, and in the end you have a snapfit Viper!

Jeez, do I have to do ALL the thinking around here....

People where already complaining about the cost. Adding things like thrones, Ovions and Daggits adds substancially to the tooling cost as these are not reuseable items. Baltar was not offered in the first wave of Amoktime figures as there were issues with getting the likeness rights from the actor's estate. If you think you have this all figured out when are the figures you are producing coming out? It's easy to sit back and imagine what you would like to have, and how easy it should be for someone else to provide it for you. That isn't the case by a long shot. Getting these kinds of collectibles made requires a lot of time and money. With many factories in the Orient unionizing, the retail cost is going to skyrocket on collectibles across the board. Then there is dealing with movie/tv studios and the actors themselves. It may look like a no brainer from where you are sitting, but it's hardly as easy as you may think.

JediJaida

Oct 27, '10, 3:16 PM

I have those figures, and they are ridiculously overpriced!

The sculpts are very bland looking, although the details of the clothing is spot on, and the weapons are perfect.

Still, as I've said before, I'd LOVE to see these in 8" format.

For one thing, they'd be easier to display, and store.

For another, they'd be a lot easier on the wallet.

Thirdly, they'd be easier to photograph and show off.

joyandtomstudios

Oct 27, '10, 3:16 PM

First off, well done--I've always thought those were beautiful and much better than the Apollo and Starbuck figures that were released. Your sculptors are phenomenal. One thing, though--I thought these were released and available for purchase. Is this not so? I'm fairly certain I've seen them for sale around the Net.

Thanks for the compliment. The person who posted after you is correct. Several online stores were offering the figures as preorders. Last I heard all those preorders combined where not enough for them to move forward with production.

Mefiboschet

Oct 27, '10, 3:17 PM

Now imagine, this Commander Cain figure would be 8" scale standing next to the Buck Rogers figures! That's wjat I've been waiting for!!!

boynightwing

Oct 27, '10, 3:50 PM

I don't think I ever asked about peoples feelings on the new BSG here, but I for one love it and would be all over picking up 8 inch figures of them.

Captain

Oct 27, '10, 8:29 PM

People where already complaining about the cost. Adding things like thrones, Ovions and Daggits adds substancially to the tooling cost as these are not reuseable items. Baltar was not offered in the first wave of Amoktime figures as there were issues with getting the likeness rights from the actor's estate. If you think you have this all figured out when are the figures you are producing coming out? It's easy to sit back and imagine what you would like to have, and how easy it should be for someone else to provide it for you. That isn't the case by a long shot. Getting these kinds of collectibles made requires a lot of time and money. With many factories in the Orient unionizing, the retail cost is going to skyrocket on collectibles across the board. Then there is dealing with movie/tv studios and the actors themselves. It may look like a no brainer from where you are sitting, but it's hardly as easy as you may think.

Been there, done that myself. If its not cranky actors, its their oodles of off spring who all want to live a lavish lifestyle off the licenses!! AARGH!

Just curious, have these likenesses been signed off on, and do you currently own them or does Amok Time? I understand if you cant say....I'm just kicking tires here. If the designs were yours to use, and signed off, this could make this whole venture a lot easier!...Hint hint..nudge nudge..wink wink :rotfl:

Captain

Oct 27, '10, 8:32 PM

Mefiboschet

Oct 28, '10, 12:59 AM

In regard to the new BSG, I think, for most of us, who collect and customize Mego (or 8" for that matter) figures, our hobby is fanned by childhood memories. It's all about movies, TV series we saw, comics we read and toys we had back then. Seen from todays movie & special effects standards, classic BSG is quite cheesy, but so was Buck Rogers, Star Trek TOS, Space 1999 and what have you.
Even with the new quality and detail the ZICA BR are still retro-style figures and that's what most of us are looking for.
So doing a new TV series like the new Galactica show in retro style just doesn't appeal to me. I personally want to see realized, what I dreamed about 30 years ago as a kid. And that was BSG and BR to go along with my 8" Trek figures.
The new BSG show figures have already been realized in modern 6" scale and I think protos of new Adama and Apollo were made in 12" either by Majestic or Amok.

samurainoir

Oct 28, '10, 8:34 AM

Mefiboschet

Oct 28, '10, 9:21 AM

All the hurdles aside, giving it another go at the 8" scale (and thus lower price point) might be a way to use those existing sculpts! Although I guess if the retailers in question couldn't get the numbers the first time, they might be more hesitant about going through the bother again vs finding another license that might be more popular or easier to produce.

I was thinking about the very same thing. If joyandtomstudios already has gone through all the hassle concerning aquiring the rights, sculpting the prototypes and all the other stuff involved in such a project, why not make use of the hard work and time that was already invested to come up with an 8" line. Of course we are not the ones to decide this, but the parties that would be involved in this.

But as for the sculpts, it is no problem to downscale them.

Georg

joyandtomstudios

Oct 28, '10, 10:16 AM

Been there, done that myself. If its not cranky actors, its their oodles of off spring who all want to live a lavish lifestyle off the licenses!! AARGH!

Just curious, have these likenesses been signed off on, and do you currently own them or does Amok Time? I understand if you cant say....I'm just kicking tires here. If the designs were yours to use, and signed off, this could make this whole venture a lot easier!...Hint hint..nudge nudge..wink wink :rotfl:

The final tooling masters have not been done on those heads because they haven't gone into production. After we paint the prototype heads we often find things we can improve on and those changes are made to the final casting that goes to the factory. Those sculpts belong to Amoktime. They allowed us to post images of our work on our website, but we have no rights to the actual sculpts themselves. Classic BSG may be more successful in the Mego scale as it seems to be a hot format right now. I don't think we have pictures of them on our site but we did some of the characters from the new BSG in Mego scale for Robot Chicken. If I remember correctly it was Starbuck/Helio/Adama/Tige. Majestic did prototypes of Adama and Apollo for the new BSG, not Amoktime.

Gorn Captain

Oct 28, '10, 10:51 AM

If you think you have this all figured out when are the figures you are producing coming out? It's easy to sit back and imagine what you would like to have, and how easy it should be for someone else to provide it for you.

Look. I'm the customer here. I don't have to offer figures. But if someone does, I will offer my opinions on them, whether it's about price, sculpt, you name it. This is a figure review forum, and that's what I do.
Most of what happens here is speculation about what is coming out, and what we would like to see on the shelves.
And hey, I have bought all five BSG figures that have been released. Chill, man....

PS: let's get back on subject, as the thread title suggests, ok? We're getting sidetracked...

Fuzzysnail

Oct 30, '10, 10:04 PM

Craig what are the chances of this happening...there is a lot of interest, but thats not always enough. What can we do to help make this happen?

starsky

Oct 30, '10, 10:08 PM

let's make it happen craig!! please? :)

starsky

Oct 30, '10, 10:10 PM

pretty please? :)

ZICA

Oct 30, '10, 10:50 PM

Craig what are the chances of this happening...there is a lot of interest, but thats not always enough. What can we do to help make this happen?

Make sure people buy a lot of the Buck Rogers figures and I'll see what I can do. :grin: Honestly, when I was at the NYCC I spoke with the owner of Amok Time who currently has the license for the 1/6 scale classic BSG figures and I can tell you it's not cheap. I'm a huge fan of the show and at some point I would love to be able make figures from the series in 1/9 scale.

Fuzzysnail

Oct 30, '10, 11:53 PM

cool. You make em I'll buy em....and make sure others do the same. any way of you throwing a number out there...kinda give us an idea what a license like that costs....

starsky

Oct 31, '10, 12:17 AM

between $1000-$25000?

Fuzzysnail

Oct 31, '10, 5:12 AM

I like the low end.:grin:

thats quite a range. we just want to make toys to promote their brand....not remake the series...lol

Gorn Captain

Oct 31, '10, 5:43 AM

What if we all pre-ordered a platoon of 8 inch Cylons? Would that help in getting this line made by ZICA?:grin:

JediJaida

Oct 31, '10, 7:31 AM

A license like BSG would cost, at the very least, a good $10,000.00.

And that is a LOW figure to start!

I say we all take up a collection, aside from buying up the BR figures in droves, so that Craig can make this dream a reality.

At $29.99 a pop, he'd have to sell more than two or three THOUSAND of the BR figures to make a profit, depending upon how much he's sunk into the license, and all that goes with it.

Mefiboschet

Oct 31, '10, 3:28 PM

JediJaida

Oct 31, '10, 4:27 PM

It's too bad that there are no young kids in my family. Otherwise I'd be buyin these figures for them.

starsky

Oct 31, '10, 5:09 PM

yeah i agree, let's help craig make buck rogers a success!

Fuzzysnail

Oct 31, '10, 6:55 PM

yeah i agree, let's help craig make buck rogers a success!

Well that goes without saying...Craig makes it easy with a superior product....still it doesn't hurt to let it beknown we would love to see Battlestar Galactica get the same treatment.:grin:

Vivisect

Nov 1, '10, 8:56 AM

Well,

let's not speculate about the license fee, but rather support Craig with the current BR project, in order to see a 8" BSG project realized. One good way to do this, is to order any figures directly from him and spread the word.

I agree, not to mention Craig is obviously keeping quite busy with what he has going on anyhow, and there's a fine line between keeping busy with a bunch of projects and losing your freakin mind. :smiley1:

I say this from experience. :googly:

boynightwing

Nov 2, '10, 1:26 AM

From past discussions here, I think the new BSG (and the JJ Trek movie) should be added to the "No-Religion--No Politics rule.:smiley1:

Some like it, some hate it.....actually its more like LOVE or absolutely DETEST!

:rotfl:

I'll have to remember that so as not to stir any pots. lol.

I personally like both versions equally. Both have merit and a place in my heart. I think I just grew to know the new ones better as I became obsessed with it from week to week for close to 5 years.

ironman1188

Nov 2, '10, 12:53 PM

Check your PMs. :smile:
Does someone have a Rick Springfield sculpt? I want Zac! :grin:

The recent 1/6 ones didn't fare well.
Majestic started them off with Apollo, Starbuck, silver and gold Cylon and Adamo, then went out of business. Amok Time wanted to pick up the ball, made a big fuss, simply re-released a couple of them (with only the tiniest of tweaks), then went silent again, though they had made Boomer and Athena prototypes. Face sculpts were OK, but not fantastic.
Somebody please do this line justice!
They made prototypes of Boomer, Athena, Tigh and Cain. And they were quite good having been sculpted by some of the best in the biz. The problem was everyone clamored that they WANTED them but no one bellied up to the bar and placed enough preorders to make it a worthwhile investment. An utter shame as I am DYING to have the rest of the 1:6 BSG in my collection.

I agree, not to mention Craig is obviously keeping quite busy with what he has going on anyhow, and there's a fine line between keeping busy with a bunch of projects and losing your freakin mind. :smiley1:

I say this from experience. :googly:
Hey Bill!! :smiley13: Check your emails when you get a chance please!

JediJaida

Nov 2, '10, 4:15 PM

I may have mentioned this already, so if I have, let me know.

I have the Starbuck and Apollo figures from Amok Time.

The sculpts, while somewhat accurate, are very bland looking.

The articulation is nice, but the overall effect is somewhat stiff.

The helmet and blasters are cool, and very accurate, but everything else kinda falls flat.

ironman1188

Nov 3, '10, 7:35 AM

The Apollo and Starbuck were basically just Majestic's version re-released. There were plans to offer more accurate sculpts as the new figures were offered but instead the whole line died. :cry:

joyandtomstudios

Nov 4, '10, 8:50 PM

There was never a rerelease on Starbuck and Apollo. Majestic released the regular figures and Amoktime was selling off the overstock from the Majestic run of figures. Amoktime did rerelease the Cylons with a few modifications. The plan was to release the new figures and then come back and do improved sculpts for Apollo and Starbuck. AT was satisfied with the Majestic Adama, but we were planning to do a sculpt to try and convience them it could be improved. I believe they wanted to do Baltar, Sheba and more, but there were some issues with the actors/estates that caused them to be excluded from the first planned wave.

starsky

Nov 4, '10, 11:11 PM

so will the figures be released again? i definitely think the majjestic adama was the best out of them all but unfortunately, i'm not a big adama fan. would really love a new sculpt of starbuck the one released looked nothing like dirk benedict.

ironman1188

Nov 5, '10, 7:09 AM

The line is dead in the water, at least for now. I am very sad to see that this line will not continue. I was blown away by the new sculpts and seeing the whole setup at ToyFair 08 was a real highlight for me.
Surprisingly, the Majestic Apollo and Starbuck are actually pretty decent with a repaint. I'll post pix when i get them all together.

starsky

Nov 5, '10, 3:31 PM

i really like the accessories that they came with. i think they were done very well. apollo was decent but starbuck could have been better.

JediJaida

Dec 12, '10, 4:06 PM

It's been a while since anyone has posted in this thread, so I'm going to put in more of my two cents worth.

I definitely believe that this would be a moneymaker for ZICA.

I happen to belong to a costuming group that is BSG based, and yes it's the original, not the GINO, and I will float the idea by them to see if anyone of them is interested.

And I KNOW that there are a LOT more fans of the show that are out there than just the members of the forum.

A toy's popularity is mostly based on profit, isn't it?

If, and I do mean 'if', there are enough of us that really, REALLY want this, we can make it happen, can't we?

I know that Craig is up to his little eyeballs with the Buck Rogers line, and I am already down for Buck and Tigerman.

But I'd LOVE to see Apollo, Starbuck, Adama, a few Cylons, Athena, Cassie, Boomer, and maybe, juuuuust maybe, a 1:9 scale Viper.

Fuzzysnail

Dec 12, '10, 5:34 PM

There is NO line I would like to see more than the classic Battlestar Galactica. NONE. If someone can make this happen, I will be first in line.

actjac01

Dec 12, '10, 10:12 PM

There is NO line I would like to see more than the classic Battlestar Galactica. NONE. If someone can make this happen, I will be first in line.

Yeah, I'll second that... or even THIRD that.
That line that would do very well.
'Sides, I 've always felt Mattel 'missed the boat' with this line with their releases back in '79-80.
Heck, you could sign me up for a 1/9 scale Raider!
How cool would that be?

Gorn Captain

Dec 15, '10, 9:57 AM

If someone can make this happen, I will be first in line.

I'm sorry, but I've been first in line for that franchise since the late 70s. You'll have to accept being second....:wink_y:

Mefiboschet

Dec 16, '10, 2:24 AM

I'm sorry, but I've been first in line for that franchise since the late 70s. You'll have to accept being second....:wink_y:

No, sorry, you are both wrong! It was me! :wink:
But honestly, I dreamt of this as a kid ever since I first saw Battlestar Galactica. I had the Mego 8" Star Trek figures (which really was something special, as they were hard to find over here. Mattel's Big Jim had the monopoly for action figures over here in those days), and wanted BSG figures to go along with them.
Plus we didn't even have those junky Mattel 3 3/4" BSG figures. For some reason, they never have seem to make it to the European continent.
So, after over 30 years, please make that happen!

JediJaida

Dec 16, '10, 4:30 PM

You're lucky you got the Trek figures. I asked for a Lt. Uhura doll one Christmas, and never got her.

I had to wait until I was in my 40's to get my hands on the repro.

Fuzzysnail

Dec 16, '10, 9:54 PM

I'm sorry, but I've been first in line for that franchise since the late 70s. You'll have to accept being second....:wink_y:

Hey....NO CUTS!!!!!

D!n0-M@n

Dec 22, '10, 12:26 PM

I would be in frickin heaven to have a full line of Classic Battlestar Galactica 8" figures! Once again, count me in! If you make them I WILL buy them! :grin:

Teemu

Dec 22, '10, 12:56 PM

I am in for Battlestar Galactica too! I'd also love a Zica Tron from the original movie

ZICA

Dec 22, '10, 1:32 PM

I am in for Battlestar Galactica too! I'd also love a Zica Tron from the original movie

Classic TRON would be very cool but I've heard it can be very difficult to get a license from Disney. Supposedly you need to have been in business for 10 years before they'll even consider granting you a license. Naturally that may not be true but it's what I've heard.

JediJaida

Dec 22, '10, 4:48 PM

Okay, that kinda sucks eggs.

But, on the other hand, you're going to have a lot more on your plate than just Tron, so it's an even trade off.

drogge

Dec 22, '10, 7:18 PM

I would buy them all, and I am a very picky buyer...

Mefiboschet

Dec 31, '10, 11:38 AM

After having the Buck Rogers and Tiger Man figures in hand, I more than ever would like ZICA to work on a classic BSG line.

JediJaida

Feb 10, '11, 5:57 PM

Okay, God willing that Craig gets the BSG license, what characters would you fans like to see in Wave 1?

For me, it would have to be Starbuck and Apollo. Let's face it, those two were the eye candy of the series, so they should get produced first.

For Wave 2 Adama and Baltar. Two great enemies, captured in vinyl.

Wave 3 Cassieopeia and Athena.

Wave 4 Boomer and Jolly.

Of course, we'd have to have Lucifer and a Cylon, as well as Vipers and Raiders (for those of us with REAL deep pockets. LOL!)

Just leave out Boxey and the Daggit. The kid was annoying, and the daggit will never compare to K9 of Doctor Who.

If it were to get an upgrade to be more bad***, then sure, I'd buy it.

CowofZot

Feb 10, '11, 7:22 PM

Starbuck was based on Galland, ( see below), who loved Cigars.

German Air Force - Adolf Galland (http://www.ww2incolor.com/german-air-force/gall.html)

jasonmego1277

Feb 11, '11, 9:01 PM

starsky

Feb 11, '11, 10:38 PM

this would be a dream come true for me!!

JediJaida

Feb 12, '11, 6:59 AM

HOLY SMOKES! Where'd you score the Black Beauty?

kennermike

Apr 1, '11, 1:49 PM

Classic Battlestar Galactica would be a dream!

TCM Hitchhiker

Apr 1, '11, 1:54 PM

I would buy a Zica Cylon is a split second, but I will be honest, that is probably the only character I would buy....except for maybe some aliens.

Marc

Jul 9, '11, 1:24 PM

Hello to everyone!

I'm brandnew in this forum, writing you from Germany... I'm very happy having my ZICA-Buck Rogers figures now and they are really perfect, great stuff! I will buy all other figures as well, because the details and likeness are just amazing... Thank you Craig! :wink:

I saw Buck Rogers and Classic Battlestar nearly at the same time in german television, back in 1980, and loved both shows... until today :yes:

In Germany it was nearly impossible to get toys of both shows, so I customized StarWars-figures as Apollo and so on... So this is the reason why i love new products of both shows, it is a childhood dream come true... I think this is for many collectors in Europe just the same...

So a Classic-Galactica line from ZICA would be fantastic... I would love to have Apollo, Starbuck and Boomer all together, because they were the main heroes... Think about some other great opportunities, like the 4-eyed dancers/ singers from the pilot...:juggleyes_y:

So let's support Buck Rogers first, then we get "ready to launch" for Galactica, right...?! :drool_y:

Greetings to all of you!

JediJaida

Jul 10, '11, 7:48 AM

Welcome to the group, Marc!

We're a merry little bunch of nutjobs here, and we love all things to do with Mego.

Put up pics of some of your stuff, if you do customizing.

Mefiboschet

Jul 11, '11, 1:48 AM

Hey Marc,

good to see a fellow German here in the forums. Welcome!

I saw Buck Rogers and Classic Battlestar nearly at the same time in german television, back in 1980, and loved both shows... until today :yes:

In Germany it was nearly impossible to get toys of both shows, so I customized StarWars-figures as Apollo and so on... So this is the reason why i love new products of both shows, it is a childhood dream come true... I think this is for many collectors in Europe just the same...

Exactly the same with me. I saw both pilots in the movies back then and I was hooked.
The Mattel Gallactica figures were never available over here in Germany (I was hard enough to get Megos, as the predominant line was "Big-Jim".
So I too customized Star Wars figures. Han Solo Bespin outfit served as Colonial warrior outfit with repaint and different heads.

These days I customiize 8" Megos into Battlestar Galactica figures, but I'd like to see a BSG line released by ZICA.

bp1701a

Jul 11, '11, 9:58 AM

if ZICA put out BSG and I so wish TWOK start trek figures,, a cylon,, all thos, id buy in a split second,,, well maybe 10 split seconds.

DocDrako

Jul 12, '11, 2:24 AM

If ZICA did classic Battlestar Galactica, I'd love it. Especially if they did:

Starbuck (colonial warrior outfit)
Apollo (colonial warrior outfit)
Boomer (colonial warrior outfit)
Zack (colonial warrior outfit)
Commander Adama
Colonel Tighe
Baltar
Cylon Centurion (I'd have to buy about 5 of these guys)
Cassiopeia
Athena
Serena
Boxey & Muffet
Lucifer

I could easily see myself buying all of these characters if done with the same dedication to detail as the Buck Rogers line.

:grin:

starsky

Jul 12, '11, 12:56 PM

this would be my dream line and i really hope craig can make it happen!

Marc

Jul 12, '11, 2:49 PM

Hello again, thank you for the warm welcome! :smile:

jemboy2004

Jul 12, '11, 8:54 PM

ZICA BSG would be awesome! I'd be interested in them.

UnderdogDJLSW

Jul 12, '11, 10:38 PM

I would definitely go broke if an 8" line came out.

Mefiboschet

Oct 6, '11, 3:50 PM

Well, unfortunately, the line won't be released through ZICA, but BBP just announced they'll be doing classic BSG retro figures. Finally!

joyandtomstudios

Oct 6, '11, 5:14 PM

Our studio sculpted the prototypes for the 12 inch Original BSG figures that were going to be prouced by Amok Time Toys. We were really disappointed that there was not enough fan support to bring the figures to production. Maybe at a smaller scale and cheaper price the line will be more successful. At least we got a set of figures out of the deal. Prototype sculpts can be seen here:

http://www.joyandtomstudios.com/images/Portrait_Gallery/Battlestar_Gallery/index.htm

Note: Lucifer was reworked but we haven't updated the site with more accurate pictures.

JediJaida

Oct 6, '11, 5:41 PM

They were gorgeous sculpts, but the figures were waaaay too expensive. And I got the Apollo and Starbuck figures.

The boots were difficult to remove, and the pants had a distressing tendency to ride too low on the hips.

The helmet and pistol were well done, but the gun belt kept slipping a lot.

Did Doc say WHEN these babies were coming out?

Hopefully by next summer.

Mefiboschet

Oct 7, '11, 1:34 AM

joyandtomstudios

Oct 7, '11, 11:20 AM

Could these sculpts be reused for the EMCE Galactica figures? The larger scale shouldn't be a problem, as they could be 3D scanned and reproduced on a 3D printer.

They would have to contact Amoktime as they own those particular sculpts. Our lead sculptor did the Buck, Hawk and Killer Kane sculpts for Zica. They were sculpted at 1/6th scale. Not sure what process was used to reduce them to 1/9th. Whatever the process sculpts always seem to lose something when reduced mechanically. The best results come from sculpting the head at the right scale and making it slightly larger to account for shrinkage in the final casting. In the past we have submitted a portfolio to Biff Bang Pow. We have done over 500 1/9th scale celebrity sculpts for Robot Chicken. I'm sure BBP and EMCE get a lot of sculptors wanting to work with them. If collectors like the Buck Rogers sculpts and want the same quality on BSG and 6MDM you should let them hear from you.

Teemu

Oct 7, '11, 11:47 AM

I'd love to see EMCE match the quality of the Zica Buck Rogers line! We would have some really kick *** Battlestar Galactica figures

Gorn Captain

Oct 7, '11, 11:58 AM

I would have loved to have seen more 1/6 BSG figures. I bought all five. A real shame wave 2 didn't make it...

Marc

Dec 20, '11, 4:56 AM

Yes, me too... it would have been great to collect some other figures from the main cast. It was fantastic that the first wave was produced, but most of the time you always have Apollo/ Starbuck and the Cylons and that's it... For example like the Joyride-toyline too... that's a bit disappointing...
Well, I keep my fingers crossed for a new line! If it is well done, I will buy it for sure...:yes: