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sprytel
May 21, '11, 11:32 PM
You're gonna have to get this thread locked to stop conversation.

And maybe it's just me, but it does suck the fun out to suggest that folks are sucking the fun out by discussing the price. I mean, why did you even start this thread? To discuss a cool project that you feel passionate about and that you would eventually sell in multiples, no?

You could just name your price and be done.
But people pretty much just talk about whatever they want to talk about.........especially on a discussion board.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

reevefan78
May 22, '11, 12:32 AM
You're gonna have to get this thread locked to stop conversation.

And maybe it's just me, but it does suck the fun out to suggest that folks are sucking the fun out by discussing the price. I mean, why did you even start this thread? To discuss a cool project that you feel passionate about and that you would eventually sell in multiples, no?

You could just name your price and be done.
But people pretty much just talk about whatever they want to talk about.........especially on a discussion board.

Good point and maybe this thread has reached the end of the line at this point......we'll see. I can understand why friends of mine prefer to keep certain things to themselves or in private (i.e. pm's). Divulging too much information in a thread can sometimes backfire on a person. I know a lot of sites like this one forbid discussion of price and/or money and I can see why. Therefore I will keep the thread's focus on the project's progression from now on and will refrain from discussing price on the thread. If anyone is seriously interested they can simply pm me. Otherwise we will "test the waters" and try our luck with Ebay. :wink_y:

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 1:13 AM
Wow.

Many of you should just be ashamed of yourselves. I've purposely stayed out of this thread for the most part because this is Kris's show.

In tracking back, most of the "price" topics in this thread have come from people other than Kris. I know he has mentioned MANY times he didn't know what the price would be... and that's a fair reply which should have taken care of any price issue until the project was done and ready to be offered.

I'm a professional Graphic Designer, Artist, whatever (though I did not do the Design work on this box). The work that went into reproducing the box would basically amount to $2000+ so far if being paid by a client to a skilled Designer, for all that has been done there with creating camera ready artwork. I can't even imagine, or guess, how much it would cost for the mold and sculpting work being done on the Shark. I'm sure that's safely into a couple of grand as well. Plus, all the work the project manager/Kris has put into this (his time is worth something too).. say a Grand. Basically somewhere between 4-5 Grand is where this would be on any given day if this was being done as a client, work-for-hire, situation. That is some serious change to fork out just for the "love" of something.

I don't know what Kris's final price for the set will be, but I know it will be fair, and it will be for a repro of a rare item, and the only one available that even comes close to an original. Add that fact to the AMOUNT of work that has gone into this so far and I can't see how anyone could ever get this set otherwise for what will be I'm sure a reasonable price based on cost and man hours.

I'm not involved in this project other than helping get the box graphics as clean and true as they could be, but during my time assisting there, I've come to know Kris pretty well. A nicer guy, honest and genuine person I've rarely met.

He gives updates because HE is excited, and hopes you will be excited too. He shares the news and the pics because where else would anyone have an appreciation for this project? No where. So, let's not worry about price just yet, or that he's trying to get rich, or being vague, or whatever... given that this project is still in progress, just enjoy the ride and let all see where this goes together, while being supportive of the person taking on this incredible task.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2EzEBbtDGmI/SGWJZ2wvMII/AAAAAAAABn8/M4R-Pyv1u40/s400/wolf-774738.jpg

Regards,

Geoff

saucerful
May 22, '11, 1:56 AM
Geoff, good post (except for the "ashamed" part, I'd say), but I don't understand how the wolf in sheep's clothing relates.:read:

reevefan78
May 22, '11, 2:39 AM
Geoff, good post (except for the "ashamed" part, I'd say), but I don't understand how the wolf in sheep's clothing relates.:read:

The 'Wolf' is a private joke between Geoff and I......I think it was meant for me mostly and I definitely 'got the joke'. Good one Geoff!

Thanks buddy for the support and your post. Most folks will never know the time, money and effort that we who are involved in creating this project had to go through to get it to this point and that's okay. No matter what we want to make sure that we do our dead level best to stay faithful to the Mego look while safeguarding collectors (like me, Geoff and others) who own original Mego Great White Sharks. At least no one will ever be able to pass one of ours off as an original Mego product.....we were adamant about removing the Mego logo, adding ours, walling off the back of the throat, making the main body one piece, removing the motor (but the shaft and prop will be present) and thickening the tail fins ever so slightly. All these modifications take time and money to accomplish. We didn't however make major modifications to the overall look or body from the exterior and we are going to match the color by casting it in resin as closely as can be achieved to my original shark. The eyes and teeth as well as the prop will also be very closely duplicated to match the Mego version.

We hope that people will come to understand what we have tried to accomplish here and that my wanting to do this project wasn't in vain....I simply wanted to put this awesome collectible in the hands of others that cannot afford or cannot locate an original Mego Great White Shark. I just love the simplicity and crudeness of this little collectible item.....the one I had as a child was well played with and I still have very fond memories of recreating scenes from JAWS with it. My hope is that those that choose to purchase one will cherish it and that it'll have a special place in their collection as well for years to come. :yes:

saucerful
May 22, '11, 2:49 AM
The 'Wolf' is a private joke between Geoff and I......I think it was meant for me mostly and I definitely 'got the joke'. Good one Geoff!


Let's see if I can figure this out. . . . you and Geoff laugh at how you both think that other members of this forum think that this forum thread is analogous to a wolf in sheep's clothing, but that's ridiculous, so you just privately laugh about it publicly on that very same forum thread.

That's a pretty cool joke!:smiley1:

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 3:01 AM
No.

In fact since the initial involvement on my part in this with helping Kris, providing scans from my box, we have talked very little. (We're both rather busy).

The wolf relates to his first email to me and my initial response, which included a reference to the movie "Hangover"... and the fact I very rarely socialize.

Regards,

Geoff

reevefan78
May 22, '11, 3:04 AM
Let's see if I can figure this out. . . . you and Geoff laugh at how you both think that other members of this forum think that this forum thread is analogous to a wolf in sheep's clothing, but that's ridiculous, so you just privately laugh about it publicly on that very same forum thread.

That's a pretty cool joke!:smiley1:

Oh man.......you guys are making my brain hurt! Maybe what we need here are more hobbyists and less free time spent trying to 'read between other peoples lines'....yes? LOL. :juggleyes_y:

saucerful
May 22, '11, 3:13 AM
Nahhh, we can just get rid of the hobbyists around here and still be fine.

http://jonnydward.net/blog/wp-content/themes/UpstartBloggerFuturosityMag/ub_futurositymag/images/confused.png

. . . . uhhhh, what???

And now, I leave you with this private joke to myself:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs39/i/2008/331/e/2/Wolf_Shark_by_JMoona.jpg

reevefan78
May 22, '11, 3:22 AM
Nahhh, we can just get rid of the hobbyists around here and still be fine.

http://jonnydward.net/blog/wp-content/themes/UpstartBloggerFuturosityMag/ub_futurositymag/images/confused.png

. . . . uhhhh, what???

And now, I leave you with this private joke to myself:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs39/i/2008/331/e/2/Wolf_Shark_by_JMoona.jpg

So you see yourself as a wolf in shark's clothing....is that it??? I've heard of "Sharktopus" but what in Sam Hill do you call this poor creature? It looks like something that would be produced by Roger Corman (the 'king of B-movies') and shown on the SyFy Channel. :terror:

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 3:34 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/lanterndude/Wolf.gif
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs39/i/2008/331/e/2/Wolf_Shark_by_JMoona.jpg

:smiley1:

saucerful
May 22, '11, 3:37 AM
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5363/aquamanfacial.jpg

:wink::smiley1::smiley1::smiley1::xmas-smiley-030:

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 3:42 AM
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5363/aquamanfacial.jpg

:wink::smiley1::smiley1::smiley1::xmas-smiley-030:

Uggg. :googly:

The Bat
May 22, '11, 7:23 AM
There's an old business adage..."never explain, never complain". ;)

It's not unreasonable for people to ask the price...but IMO you gave out too many personal reasons. You should probably not have answered until you had decided on the price and was ready to offer it up for sale.

reevefan78
May 22, '11, 10:26 AM
There's an old business adage..."never explain, never complain". ;)

It's not unreasonable for people to ask the price...but IMO you gave out too many personal reasons. You should probably not have answered until you had decided on the price and was ready to offer it up for sale.

Well, that is certainly your opinion (and I respect that) and you are more than entitled to it. I'm a teacher and that's what I have to do several times a week....explain, explain, explain.....most time ad nauseum to all of my students. So please forgive me for having done so too much here and I certainly realized that once I had. Next time I'll be sure to gain a copy of the forum handbook or at least ask to be faxed the latest inter-office memo on such matters, LOL. :smiley1:

Really I don't see why the reason matters all that much unless people are just looking for a reason to 'poo-poo' the project because they are upset with the price. I challenge anyone to do what we're doing at the high level of quality and for a better price.....and if someone can do it then all the more power to them. :yes:

I did not willingly discuss price and I tried to avoid it many times because this is often what happens when you do. Still yet when I do I am targeted with 'shoulda, coulda, woulda's' by folks looking for any excuse to put this project down because the price has thwarted their expectations. I'm curious to know when was the last time someone on this forum went into say a department store and complained to the manager about the price? It is what it is and people are free to ask what they feel they and the project are worth.....maybe they do well with it and maybe they don't but it's their prerogative. I've never asked anyone to lower their price on anything ever. I figure if I can afford it then great, if not then finances dictate that I wait and save up if I really want it or pass it up altogether.

I didn't realize some folks on here were such 'bean counters' waiting for their prey to make a wrong move. It was a lesson well learned. I've seen this happen to friends of mine on statueforum.com too so I guess this should come as no surprise. Everyone seems happy and supportive but upset them with price and suddenly your the scourge of the earth for wanting (what we deem as) a fair return on our investment.

Oh well....se la vive. There's another adage...."you can't please all of the people all of the time". Honestly I'd rather put my energy into the project rather than feeling I have to constantly defend my position to people who simply may never understand how big this project really is and how much effort, time and personal investment it has taken on many fronts by all involved to get it to this stage so far and that's okay too.

Hopefully this will not incite more backlash but if it does I'll stop the updates altogether and end this thread right here and now before it gets ugly.....life is far too short for that IMHO and I just don't have the time nor the energy to continue defending what we're doing and why....I'd rather save my time and energy for future progress reports and updates. :cool_y:

Mikey
May 22, '11, 10:50 AM
My suggestion.

Ask the mods to delete this thread

Let the issue cool for a bit

When the sharks are finished and ready to sell post in a new selling thread in Marketplace

SUP-Ronin
May 22, '11, 11:00 AM
My suggestion.

Ask the mods to delete this thread

Let the issue cool for a bit

When the sharks are finished and ready to sell post in a new selling thread in Marketplace

Not bad advice.

reevefan78
May 22, '11, 11:26 AM
My suggestion.

Ask the mods to delete this thread

Let the issue cool for a bit

When the sharks are finished and ready to sell post in a new selling thread in Marketplace

If I am forced to shut down this thread (which I don't think is a bad idea....it would just be sad for those who want to see this thing to the end with updates including myself) I doubt I will feel comfortable putting it back up even in the Marketplace. I would have concerns that it would just begin all over again. With all do respect if this is shut down I(we) will take our chances on Ebay and with those that have pm'd me to ask to be notified when it's ready. :ugh_y:

The Bat
May 22, '11, 11:39 AM
Well, that is certainly your opinion (and I respect that) and you are more than entitled to it. I'm a teacher and that's what I have to do several times a week....explain, explain, explain.....most time ad nauseum to all of my students. So please forgive me for having done so too much here and I certainly realized that once I had. Next time I'll be sure to gain a copy of the forum handbook or at least ask to be faxed the latest inter-office memo on such matters, LOL. :smiley1:

Really I don't see why the reason matters all that much unless people are just looking for a reason to 'poo-poo' the project because they are upset with the price. I challenge anyone to do what we're doing at the high level of quality and for a better price.....and if someone can do it then all the more power to them. :yes:

I did not willingly discuss price and I tried to avoid it many times because this is often what happens when you do. Still yet when I do I am targeted with 'shoulda, coulda, woulda's' by folks looking for any excuse to put this project down because the price has thwarted their expectations. I'm curious to know when was the last time someone on this forum went into say a department store and complained to the manager about the price? It is what it is and people are free to ask what they feel they and the project are worth.....maybe they do well with it and maybe they don't but it's their prerogative. I've never asked anyone to lower their price on anything ever. I figure if I can afford it then great, if not then finances dictate that I wait and save up if I really want it or pass it up altogether.

I didn't realize some folks on here were such 'bean counters' waiting for their prey to make a wrong move. It was a lesson well learned. I've seen this happen to friends of mine on statueforum.com too so I guess this should come as no surprise. Everyone seems happy and supportive but upset them with price and suddenly your the scourge of the earth for wanting (what we deem as) a fair return on our investment.

Oh well....se la vive. There's another adage...."you can't please all of the people all of the time". Honestly I'd rather put my energy into the project rather than feeling I have to constantly defend my position to people who simply may never understand how big this project really is and how much effort, time and personal investment it has taken on many fronts by all involved to get it to this stage so far and that's okay too.

Hopefully this will not incite more backlash but if it does I'll stop the updates altogether and end this thread right here and now before it gets ugly.....life is far too short for that IMHO and I just don't have the time nor the energy to continue defending what we're doing and why....I'd rather save my time and energy for future progress reports and updates. :cool_y:

All of that...just because I offered some friendly advice.:googly: And I'm not trying to "poo poo" on your project. You really need to chill man, you're letting this get you to wound up. Geez.:no:

toys2cool
May 22, '11, 11:57 AM
Nahhh, we can just get rid of the hobbyists around here and still be fine.

http://jonnydward.net/blog/wp-content/themes/UpstartBloggerFuturosityMag/ub_futurositymag/images/confused.png

. . . . uhhhh, what???

And now, I leave you with this private joke to myself:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs39/i/2008/331/e/2/Wolf_Shark_by_JMoona.jpg

lol :smiley1: you crack me up B, I'd love to see if these guys will be in such a good mood joking around when they don't sell more then 3 of these....you guys are turning off most of your potential buyers and you don't realize it

toys2cool
May 22, '11, 12:04 PM
I'm curious to know when was the last time someone on this forum went into say a department store and complained to the manager about the price?

The difference is, that this is a home made repro, not something a major company made, so you would never see it in a department store...more like a flea market that sells knock offs, and what can you do in a flea market? haggle for the price bro ;) you don't like the price , you can always make an offer on what you think it's worth to you...

That being said, it's your item, and we all know how much time and effort it took to make it...no one's dissing your stuff....it's your item and you alone will set what ever price you want...no one has to like your price, but then again no one has to buy it either ;) good luck man

The Bat
May 22, '11, 12:10 PM
I didn't realize some folks on here were such 'bean counters' waiting for their prey to make a wrong move. It was a lesson well learned.

Brilliant move by the way...insult your potential customers who dare ask the price.:sarky:

generic
May 22, '11, 12:15 PM
My $0.02:

I've been following this thread from the first post. I've never had any interest in this particular set (original or reproduction), but the project of re-creating it fascinates me. I'm glad that this thread has been here. I think it's a great idea to make a faithful reproduction while making slight changes so that it would be very difficult to pass off as an original. I really like seeing the photos of the whole process.

I think it would be a shame to delete this whole thread just because there's been a bit of disagreement about what should or shouldn't be discussed here. Honestly, we've all seen threads deteriorate much worse than this one. I can tell that some feelings have been hurt, but I think everyone is trying to keep things civil while defending their opinions. I don’t see any reason to delete the thread.

I, for one, would like to see how the shark and box turn out and I’d like to be able to follow along with the progress here because I can't follow along in person.

Mikey
May 22, '11, 12:19 PM
reevefan78

I'm curious to know when was the last time someone on this forum went into say a department store and complained to the manager about the price?




Uh, like 2 weeks ago

Seriously

I asked why they doubled the price of garlic pickles

Turned out to be a mistake and they changed the price back to normal.

If something don't look right it's always worth questioning

Said in a Jackie Mason voice --- "It couldn't hurt" :)

saucerful
May 22, '11, 12:23 PM
That's so weird, Mikey, 'cuz I just asked at my store why they pickled the price of my double garlics!!

Mikey
May 22, '11, 12:27 PM
That's so weird, Mikey, 'cuz I just asked at my store why they pickled the price of my double garlics!!

------:smiley1:

noelani72
May 22, '11, 1:02 PM
2. If so what would be a good price point that collectors wouldn't mind paying that would allow them to have a repro of one of the "Holy Grails" of mego sets and also allow for the project to be worth investing in on my part?



dude, again I point out - you ASKED us to discuss price...then you got ticked off when we said our mind.

then you lectured us...

then you insulted us...

now the shark dies...

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 1:05 PM
lol :smiley1: you crack me up B, I'd love to see if these guys will be in such a good mood joking around when they don't sell more then 3 of these....you guys are turning off most of your potential buyers and you don't realize it

Just for the record, I am not involved in this project beyond what I have stated..which was providing scans only. I'm not investing any of my money in this, or trying to sell it either.

Your mocking remarks are off target in that regard, as well as your contention of anyone "joking around" about this. Who's joking about anything?

This thread is for those with "interest" in a "repro" Aquaman Shark set. If you have none do not participate, or if you no longer have interest, move on. The solution for anyone not currently happy with the set, or any issue with it, is to stop commenting here or following the thread. Simple.

I'm not speaking for Kris, just myself, and it's the reason I added my thoughts early on. This thread has taken on a nasty taint because some people don't "like" something, and feel the need to take Kris to task about it.

No one that I've seen, and specifically Kris, has been trying to hard sell this. In fact just the opposite from what I've seen.

Again, for those with no interest in the project, or just want to make back-handed remarks, or attacks, just move on to another thread.

Regards,

Geoff

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 1:22 PM
Brilliant move by the way...insult your potential customers who dare ask the price.:sarky:

Oh man... serenity now. http://bibleministries.com/images/SmileyTapedMouth.gif

Blue Meanie
May 22, '11, 1:24 PM
Price point should have been researched BEFORE you even got this project started. Having been in pre-press printing I know that artwork is expensive to work up...but that should have been thought of before you even got started with the box art alone. I can't even fathom what was spent on the Shark's reproduction...again, you probably had been told what it would cost before you went ahead with it being dismantled. That being said you probably have/had a price in mind of how much you want to get for the figure. Just tell/post what you think is fair for the work that has been put into the project and be done with speculation of how much this is gonna cost. And DON'T be upset or DISAPPOINTED if a lot of people here don't go for it. If this was truly a "Labor of Love" that has been stated in the thread then there really shouldn't be any complaints on the part of the people involved in the reproduction of this figure.

Here's what should be done with this thread IMHO...take all the so called "progress updates" and put them in the Custom WIP section in Customs. Cause that's all this project really is when you really get down to it. Never understood why it was in Mego Buzz to begin with. Everything else in this thread should be deleted. It's wasted space and time on the Museum for close to 8 MONTHS.

SPittVol
May 22, '11, 1:27 PM
I'm new here and maybe I'm out of line by saying this, but it seems many on here are jumping at an opportunity to poor mouth this project. I happen to be interested in this project and nothing that has been said changes that. From my standpoint, the price discussed earlier in the thread seems reasonable, considering the time and effort put into it. And anyone that disputes the quality of the project needs to take a look at the photos posted earlier in the thread. I, like anyone want the price to be as low as possible, but anyone expecting a bargain basement price is just not being realistic.

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 1:29 PM
dude, again I point out - you ASKED us to discuss price...then you got ticked off when we said our mind.

then you lectured us...

then you insulted us...

now the shark dies...

I'm pretty sure that was DUE to the price issue always coming up... it was not an out of the blue request on his part.

What sort of person makes a remark like this "now the shark dies". You're pretty mean-spirited.

Geoff

noelani72
May 22, '11, 1:33 PM
I'm pretty sure that was DUE to the price issue always coming up... it was not an out of the blue request on his part.

What sort of person makes a remark like this "now the shark dies". You're pretty mean-spirited.

Geoff

mean-spirited? you dont know me very well and out of respect for the forum and the enourmous headache the mods have right now...I will just let this go.

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 1:40 PM
mean-spirited? you dont know me very well and out of respect for the forum and the enourmous headache the mods have right now...I will just let this go.

What does your contention, and statement, "now the shark dies" convey then? Seems a mean-spirited thing to say to me... and a snide remark that does not come off as nice.

noelani72
May 22, '11, 1:45 PM
What does your contention, and statement, "and now the shark dies" convey then? Seems a mean-spirited thing to say to me. It does not come off as nice.

it means - due to the attitude displayed by reeves (about the price discussion) he has probably alienated a majority of his target customer base at this forum.
Instead of him getting all upset, posting that insulting, long winded story how families need fed, need lucrative profit, etc...he could have instead explained thoughts on the tiered shark sets...

Instead of getting a bunch of us ticked off, he could have came in to the thread...went, "whoa folks...lets think of it like this - $XXX for a boxed shark...$XXX for a loose shark, etc.."
No. What he did was throw that tiered system right out the window and got ticked off and started writing.

so yes.
The shark is dead.

bobbait
May 22, '11, 1:46 PM
What does your contention, and statement, "now the shark dies" convey then? Seems a mean-spirited thing to say to me... and a snide remark that does not come off as nice.

dude, he said "let it go" so...let it go. stop trolling.

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 1:50 PM
dude, he said "let it go" so...let it go. stop trolling.

Sorry, must of missed that. "who" said let it go?

This flash-mob should just be one way then?

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 1:53 PM
it means - due to the attitude displayed by reeves (about the price discussion) he has probably alienated a majority of his target customer base at this forum.
Instead of him getting all upset, posting that insulting, long winded story how families need fed, need lucrative profit, etc...he could have instead explained thoughts on the tiered shark sets...

Instead of getting a bunch of us ticked off, he could have came in to the thread...went, "whoa folks...lets think of it like this - $XXX for a boxed shark...$XXX for a loose shark, etc.."
No. What he did was throw that tiered system right out the window and got ticked off and started writing.

so yes.
The shark is dead.

OK, so you, Blue Meanie, The Bat, nayrbgo, toys2cool, Marvelmania and Mikey don't want one. You can all move on to another thread then. Some of you are all only trolling at this point right?

Regards,

Geoff

toys2cool
May 22, '11, 2:05 PM
What does your contention, and statement, "now the shark dies" convey then? Seems a mean-spirited thing to say to me... and a snide remark that does not come off as nice.

it was an inside joke for the other forum members ;)

toys2cool
May 22, '11, 2:08 PM
OK, so you, Blue Meanie, The Bat, nayrbgo, toys2cool, Marvelmania and Mikey don't want one. You can all move on to another thread then. Some of you are all only trolling at this point right?

Regards,

Geoff

dude are you seriously talking about trolling? come on man, I'll let this go as well....like I said before, it's his piece and he can list it at w/e price he wants...just don't ask people to discuss a price and then get mad when they ask questions...and I'm pretty sure he doesn't need a forum bodyguard, just let it be man

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 2:12 PM
dude are you seriously talking about trolling? come on man, I'll let this go as well....like I said before, it's his piece and he can list it at w/e price he wants...just don't ask people to discuss a price and then get mad when they ask questions...and I'm pretty sure he doesn't need a forum bodyguard, just let it be man



Works both ways, and yes I think he does. We know you no longer have interest in the set, so now go elsewhere please. I have interest in seeing the project finished, I'm not trolling here.

Regards,

Geoff

toys2cool
May 22, '11, 2:20 PM
Works both ways, and yes I think he does. We know you no longer have interest in the set, so now go elsewhere please. I have interest in seeing the project finished, I'm not trolling here.

Regards,

Geoff

sorry I didn't know you had the authority of telling folks what thread they could see and what they can't? I wanna see the finished product as well, doesn't mean I have to buy it....so I'm guessing you'll be the first buying it at what ever price he sets right?

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 2:23 PM
sorry I didn't know you had the authority of telling folks what thread they could see and what they can't? I wanna see the finished product as well, doesn't mean I have to buy it....so I'm guessing you'll be the first buying it at what ever price he sets right?

You would be guessing wrong. I already have a real set.

I didn't "tell" you to leave, just asked you to with a "please", so your negative commentary would go as well.

Regards,

Geoff

Bizarro Amy
May 22, '11, 3:47 PM
I will continue following this thread in hopes of more pictures. Kris, your prototype looks amazing. You and your crew have obviously put a lot of work into it. I know you still want to do the high-end, near-exact replica, but at one point you had also mentioned several different options. Any chance you'll use the prototype to make any of those? It would seem that once you have that, it wouldn't be too much additional work to offer simple resin casts or vac-formed pieces.

Meule
May 22, '11, 4:07 PM
Works both ways, and yes I think he does. We know you no longer have interest in the set, so now go elsewhere please. I have interest in seeing the project finished, I'm not trolling here.

Regards,

Geoff

If you're serious about wanting to see this project reach an end I suggest you stop posting in this thread cause right now - the way it looks to an outsider - you're making matters worse. You're definitely NOT helping the cause

thunderbolt
May 22, '11, 4:11 PM
Has this officially happened to this thread yet?
http://www.panelsonpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/jump_the_shark.gif

MegoSteve
May 22, '11, 4:12 PM
The shark is dead.

That's definitely mean-spirited, whether you agree with the characterization or not. Just because a few regular posters here aren't happy with the possible price doesn't mean you all have the power to kill his project, nor do you have the power to dictate how he's going to sell it, whether it be in tiers or not.

You guys need to step back and calm down, because this is just making you look like petty cheapskates. It's great you got emotionally invested in the progress of the project, but if you can't afford it and now are all upset, you need to grow up a little and realize that you don't always get to have all the toys you want.

The Bat
May 22, '11, 4:23 PM
Am I missing something here?:googly: Because I haven't really seen anybody getting upset...just people asking about the price and getting called names for it like "petty cheapskates" and "Bean counters".

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 4:23 PM
If you're serious about wanting to see this project reach an end I suggest you stop posting in this thread cause right now - the way it looks to an outsider - you're making matters worse. You're definitely NOT helping the cause

The "project" will reach it's end, I have no doubt, with or without me posting here (don't see how that would affect it one way or the other). My guesstimated count of postings in this thread is much lower than most... but rising.

BTW - what is the "cause" in your opinion?

Regards,

Geoff

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 4:28 PM
Am I missing something here?:googly: Because I haven't really seen anybody getting upset...just people asking about the price and getting called names for it like "petty cheapskates" and "Bean counters".


Again... so why continue to post in this thread?

We get it, you're unhappy with the price and his initial replies towards that issue. Why go on, and on and on?

Regards.

Geoff

Meule
May 22, '11, 4:29 PM
The "project" will reach it's end, I have no doubt, with or without me posting here (don't see how that would affect it one way or the other). My guesstimated count of postings in this thread is much lower than most.

BTW - what is the "cause" in your opinion?

Regards,

Geoff

The cause is trying to sell as many repro sharks as possible. People are a little upset right now and you seem to be oiling the fire, wether you want to accept or not.
And since you're not even involved in this project, why do you keep posting? The last couple of pages in this thread are you and a couple of others going at it against each other.

Meule
May 22, '11, 4:30 PM
Why go on, and on and on?

Regards.

Geoff

Pot...kettle... ring a bell?

MegoSteve
May 22, '11, 4:30 PM
To be honest, geoff, you aren't doing your friend any favors by posting here so much. You don't have to respond to every single post in the thread. Even though you probably haven't posted all that much, your posts make up probably a third to half of the posts on this last page of discussion, and it doesn't help that you have that goofy animated GIF as a signature that effectively doubles the amount of vertical space your posts take up on the page and that I have to look at over and over as I scroll down.

The Bat
May 22, '11, 4:34 PM
Again... so why continue to post in this thread?

We get it, you're unhappy with the price and his initial replies towards that issue. Why go on, and on and on?

Regards.

Geoff

When did I ever say I was unhappy about the price?:googly: You guys are WAY over reacting just for people asking about it...or offering an opinion? That shouldn't cause a meltdown...yet it did. Why?:no:

noelani72
May 22, '11, 4:37 PM
That's definitely mean-spirited, whether you agree with the characterization or not. Just because a few regular posters here aren't happy with the possible price doesn't mean you all have the power to kill his project, nor do you have the power to dictate how he's going to sell it, whether it be in tiers or not.

You guys need to step back and calm down, because this is just making you look like petty cheapskates. It's great you got emotionally invested in the progress of the project, but if you can't afford it and now are all upset, you need to grow up a little and realize that you don't always get to have all the toys you want.

It isn't mean spirited.
In ALL my years here, I have SEEN mean spirited and pal, I am nowhere close.

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 4:37 PM
The cause is trying to sell as many repro sharks as possible. People are a little upset right now and you seem to be oiling the fire, wether you want to accept or not.
And since you're not even involved in this project, why do you keep posting? The last couple of pages in this thread are you and a couple of others going at it against each other.

That's true to some extent, but the cause is also the "development" process of these items. I do have a somewhat invested "interest" in seeing the project done, and I've not come here the berate the initial OP or his efforts (like others).

I keep posting because current conditions here warrant it... and concerning those who have been attacking Kris not buying the kit? They were not going to buy the item anyway, so there is no big loss there.

He WILL sell these no problem, they are that good, I have no doubt. A few unhappy people will not affect his ability to do so.

Regards,

Geoff

geoffdude
May 22, '11, 4:45 PM
To be honest, geoff, you aren't doing your friend any favors by posting here so much. You don't have to respond to every single post in the thread. Even though you probably haven't posted all that much, your posts make up probably a third to half of the posts on this last page of discussion, and it doesn't help that you have that goofy animated GIF as a signature that effectively doubles the amount of vertical space your posts take up on the page and that I have to look at over and over as I scroll down.

Those who want the set, or have always wanted the set, WILL more than likely get it when it's offered. Those who don't... never will. I'm not going to change their mind by simply posting in a forum.

Sorry about the GIF... maybe I'll find another one to reduce the height.

Regards,

Geoff

MegoSteve
May 22, '11, 4:47 PM
It isn't mean spirited.
In ALL my years here, I have SEEN mean spirited and pal, I am nowhere close.

Yeah, telling someone who's spent countless hours and hundreds if not thousands of dollars on an elaborate custom project that their project is dead because you and several vocal posters aren't happy with the price or his response to your concerns about the price isn't mean at all.

I'd rank that "the shark is dead" comment as one of the nastiest things said on the board, whether you meant it in that spirit or not. You have absolutely no right to tell someone their custom project isn't happening no matter what perceived slight you feel he's inflicted on you.

noelani72
May 22, '11, 4:53 PM
Yeah, telling someone who's spent countless hours and hundreds if not thousands of dollars on an elaborate custom project that their project is dead because you and several vocal posters aren't happy with the price or his response to your concerns about the price isn't mean at all.

I'd rank that "the shark is dead" comment as one of the nastiest things said on the board, whether you meant it in that spirit or not. You have absolutely no right to tell someone their custom project isn't happening no matter what perceived slight you feel he's inflicted on you.

It WASN'T ABOUT PRICE WITH ME! It was his attitude about the discussion, his condesending lecture, then his body guard.

You WILL not see me post here again.
In my years here I have played by the rules, never been more entrenched in an issue such as this- u make me sound like a problem user and I am deeply offended deeply.

SPittVol
May 22, '11, 5:03 PM
It WASN'T ABOUT PRICE WITH ME! It was his attitude about the discussion, his condesending lecture, then his body guard.

You WILL not see me post here again.
In my years here I have played by the rules, never been more entrenched in an issue such as this- u make me sound like a problem user and I am deeply offended deeply.

I agree it came off as mean spirited. Reevefan78 didn't give the "lecture" until some of the folks on here started harrassing him about the price he quoted. I don't blame him for getting defensive, I would have too given the circumstances.

MegoSteve
May 22, '11, 5:12 PM
It WASN'T ABOUT PRICE WITH ME! It was his attitude about the discussion, his condesending lecture, then his body guard.

You WILL not see me post here again.
In my years here I have played by the rules, never been more entrenched in an issue such as this- u make me sound like a problem user and I am deeply offended deeply.

Frankly, it's pretty much irrelevant why you told him that his project was dead; circumstances don't make your statement "the shark is dead" any less mean-spirited.

If you are all offended that someone points out you are being mean when you threaten a project they've spent a ton of time and money on, then maybe you should have chosen your words more carefully.

gummi
May 22, '11, 5:16 PM
Wow, what a debacle this has all turned into. I have to admit that I'm really surprised by all the remarks regarding the price. I know that it's a reproduction, but considering what is being reproduced here and the amount of time and effort that has gone into making it, I was not at all surprised with the tentative pricing for the finished set. Kris, I hope that you continue posting update pictures; I'm sure there are a lot of members here like me that don't post as much as some but who are also looking forward to the finished product. Good luck.

AJ Collector
May 22, '11, 7:10 PM
I have lost count of all the wrong turns this thread has taken.......sigh.

Hector
May 22, '11, 8:31 PM
Here's my Bruce NTT (Nose To Tail) 37" long maquette created by my sculptor/mold maker friend:[/COLOR]

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Bruce%20NTT%20pics/Bruce%20NTT%20pics%20for%20posting%20on%20forums/DSC03552_crop_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Bruce%20NTT%20pics/Bruce%20NTT%20pics%20for%20posting%20on%20forums/DSC03560_crop_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Bruce%20NTT%20pics/Bruce%20NTT%20pics%20for%20posting%20on%20forums/DSC03554_crop_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Bruce%20NTT%20pics/Bruce%20NTT%20pics%20for%20posting%20on%20forums/DSC03578_crop_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Bruce%20NTT%20pics/Bruce%20NTT%20pics%20for%20posting%20on%20forums/DSC03579_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Bruce%20NTT%20pics/Bruce%20NTT%20pics%20for%20posting%20on%20forums/DSC03575_crop_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Bruce%20NTT%20pics/Bruce%20NTT%20pics%20for%20posting%20on%20forums/DSC03551_crop_posting.jpg

Wow...I just seen this Bruce maquette...it's really baddass... :yes: :smiley13: :juggleyes: :biggrin:

I only posted a couple of things before long ago in this post....and it's kinda sad how this thread went downhill once the concept of pricing came up.

In my own personal take...that's the very first thing that should've been covered and discussed..from the very beginning.

It is an awesome replica...even though I'm not into Aquaman...but I dig sharks in general...they are almost as awesome as killer whales.

Hope it all works out for everybody.

cjefferys
May 22, '11, 9:09 PM
Wow, what a trainwreck.....

Toy Talk
May 22, '11, 9:23 PM
I tried reading this thread and am left with a headache. Is there a cliff notes version of this debacle?

PNGwynne
May 22, '11, 10:31 PM
Good grief. PM sent.

starsky
May 23, '11, 12:35 AM
when's the shark coming out?

Donkey Hoatie
May 23, '11, 8:57 AM
Love the pictures and the updates. Keep them coming. As for the price? Let's save that discussion for PMs. In the end, this thing is going to look cool as can be and I, for one, can't wait to see the end result.

Gorn Captain
May 23, '11, 11:48 AM
BTW - what is the "cause" in your opinion?



Uh, getting the shark made?

jimbutsu
May 23, '11, 10:32 PM
:birthday:

Anyone?

Johnny
May 24, '11, 3:33 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/foldedsoup/Blog/sharkball_web.jpg

pmwasson
May 24, '11, 1:32 PM
I'm very interested in the behind-the-scenes process and hope you are able to continue to share the progress with us. However, I understand with the recent comments this may not be possible.

reevefan78
May 24, '11, 1:53 PM
I'm very interested in the behind-the-scenes process and hope you are able to continue to share the progress with us. However, I understand with the recent comments this may not be possible.

It took Universal 4 tries before they finally killed 'JAWS' (and the franchise respectively for a while anyway)......er......uh....I mean 'Bruce the Shark'. They blew him up in the first one, electrocuted him in the second, blew him up again in the third and administered electro-shock therapy before finally impaling him in the fourth. Still ol' Bruce manages to scare audiences at the Universal Theme Parks in California and Florida year after year. So it's a safe bet that while 'Aquashark' may be down for the count......he's not out......just yet. Like Universal I'm just waiting for the right moment to resurrect him (Aquashark). :wink:

dengar
May 24, '11, 4:43 PM
too much time invested to give up now.... :smiley12:

SPittVol
May 24, '11, 5:20 PM
Please bring back the updates. A lot of folks on here have enjoyed the progress of this project. I am fascinated by this project and look forward to getting one of the Aquasharks when they are available.

MEGO_SUPERMAN
May 24, '11, 5:23 PM
Looking forward to more updates....it is a great project. Looking foward to seeing the final piece and getting one. Thanks for the hard work.

With regard to Jaws/Bruce....that first one scared me so bad...I was looking for sharks in the POOL!!! :terror:

reevefan78
May 24, '11, 5:39 PM
Please bring back the updates. A lot of folks on here have enjoyed the progress of this project. I am fascinated by this project and look forward to getting one of the Aquasharks when they are available.

Rest assured my friend the updates will continue.....today I sent the mold maker the stamps I had made by a local printing company to embed in the body of the shark most likely in the underbelly between the pectoral fins. I had our names created to read right when looking at the stamp with raised lettering (this is how it reads: reevefan78 & SCO © 2011). My friend will imbed the base of the stamp flush with the body of the shark so that the letters will be raised above the sharks' 'skin' surface. I thought this would provide us with the easiest way to have a very professional new logo stamp with our information clearly set (or rather embossed) on the shark(s) to keep our shark distinguishable from the 'real McCoy'.

It has been raining in my friends 'neck of the woods' this week so he's waiting till the rains stop so he can prime the shark again. Since he does this outdoors the process is dependent upon good weather. He's still goin' for that beautiful 'showroom shine'. More to follow soon.....stay tuned! :wink: :grin:

reevefan78
May 24, '11, 5:49 PM
Looking forward to more updates....it is a great project. Looking foward to seeing the final piece and getting one. Thanks for the hard work.

With regard to Jaws/Bruce....that first one scared me so bad...I was looking for sharks in the POOL!!! :terror:

Oh man you and me both. I saw JAWS when I was 4 and it is one of my earliest recollections. I grew up in Florida and my grandparents had a huge 18' x 38' pool in their backyard. I had lots of fun with my Aquaman VS The Great White Shark set by recreating scenes from JAWS with it.....such fond memories. Of course I was convinced that Bruce was gonna get me one day and as soon as the sun began to set I was out of the pool faster than an Olympic high jumper, LOL.

I remember a few years back when my wife and I vacationed in Destin, Florida I was looking around everywhere hoping not to see any sharks since this is where they filmed most of the water scenes for JAWS 2. I guess these kinds of things have a way of staying with you forever. Still it is one of my favorite movies.....right up there with Superman and Superman 2: The Donner Cut. JAWS is a classic and the movie was much better than the book IMHO......thank you Steven Spielberg! Even though I have it on DVD I still watch it every time it comes on TV....."Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women!" :licklips:

K

MEGO_SUPERMAN
May 24, '11, 5:53 PM
I have been born and raised in Florida....and every time I hear about a shark somewhere in Florida....it is not some tiger or nurse shark....in my mind it is 20 foot Great White with a mouth big enough to swallow a Yugo!

reevefan78
May 24, '11, 6:03 PM
I have been born and raised in Florida....and every time I hear about a shark somewhere in Florida....it is not some tiger or nurse shark....in my mind it is 20 foot Great White with a mouth big enough to swallow a Yugo!

"25...........three tons of 'em!" "This shark.....swalla ya whole......a little shakin', a little tenderizin' n' down ya go." :grin:

Zemo
May 24, '11, 7:47 PM
Frankly, it's pretty much irrelevant why you told him that his project was dead; circumstances don't make your statement "the shark is dead" any less mean-spirited.

If you are all offended that someone points out you are being mean when you threaten a project they've spent a ton of time and money on, then maybe you should have chosen your words more carefully.

:yes::yes:

MEGO_SUPERMAN
May 24, '11, 7:52 PM
Maybe we can swing this back to focusing on a great project....and just enjoy this from that aspect. If you dont want to purchase...cool. But I am loving seeing the pictures etc....SO COOL!

With all this talk about JAWS....aside from not wanting to take a bath.....wish we had some Character Heads from the movies. One step at a time.

:wink:

reevefan78
May 24, '11, 8:24 PM
Maybe we can swing this back to focusing on a great project....and just enjoy this from that aspect. If you dont want to purchase...cool. But I am loving seeing the pictures etc....SO COOL!

With all this talk about JAWS....aside from not wanting to take a bath.....wish we had some Character Heads from the movies. One step at a time.

:wink:

As you said Grasshopper....."One step at a time"........ :wink_y:

With that being said I think you and I share an astute perception for the obvious for what may very well be a future destination for Aquashark..........:grin:

MEGO_SUPERMAN
May 24, '11, 8:56 PM
Now we are talking turkey! (or sharks as the case may be) :yeah:

Brad
May 25, '11, 11:06 AM
I've never asked anyone to lower their price on anything ever.

Man, where were you when I was selling cars?
:wink_y:

MEGO_SUPERMAN
May 25, '11, 11:19 AM
Man, where were you when I was selling cars?
:wink_y:

Clearly he was paying MSRP and tipping them for rust proofing! :smiley1:

reevefan78
May 25, '11, 4:08 PM
Clearly he was paying MSRP and tipping them for rust proofing! :smiley1:

Actually my last few cars have been Saturns........Excellent product at an excellent price.....no haggling necessary......like that old adage, "you get what you pay for". *SIGH*.....I miss Saturn.....one of the many tragedies of this current economy. :cry:

Type Two
May 27, '11, 8:11 PM
Rest assured my friend the updates will continue


Great news. I've been following the progress and look forward to more pics!

Like Elvis sang, "Follow that dream..."

reevefan78
May 27, '11, 9:26 PM
Just a quick note to let everyone know that my mold maker has received the new replacement logo stamps and he'll be adding these to replace the original Mego logo on the prototype shark real soon. I've also asked for more photos of the shark when he gets a chance. Soon as I hear from him with new pics I'll be sure to post them here. Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend. Stay tuned.....more to follow soon! :wink: :grin:

MEGO_SUPERMAN
May 28, '11, 9:48 AM
Cool Beans!

THE FALCON
Jun 1, '11, 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by reevefan78


Here's my Bruce NTT (Nose To Tail) 37" long maquette created by my sculptor/mold maker friend:[/color]

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...op_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...op_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...op_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...op_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...79_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...op_posting.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...op_posting.jpg

Wow, that maquette really is Badass! I'm jealous!

reevefan78
Jun 5, '11, 7:22 PM
Wow, that maquette really is Badass! I'm jealous!

You should see this thing in person! It is "JAWS-TASTIC"! :grin:

reevefan78
Jun 5, '11, 7:27 PM
Hello all......been quite around these parts for a bit but here's another update from my mold maker friend regarding the progress on Aquashark.

"Sorry for sporadic emails, been erratic here.

Just picked up Aqua for the first time in over a week today. Looks like it just needs some polishing is all. Gotta add the little pins on the sides for the upper skull hinge too. Don't see more than that with the exception of dremeling out a section for the belly copyright and detailing/finish work.

Am going to get back to Aqua next week. I really want it done as soon as possible for the sheer fact of no longer keeping you waiting. I have 3 separate items needing molding next week. First is Aqua if possible."

So that's the latest here. I'll be in touch with more updates as soon as they are available. Stay tuned....more to follow soon! :wink: :grin:

MEGO_SUPERMAN
Jun 6, '11, 10:53 AM
Nice looking forward to it!!

GeneralApeGuy
Jun 18, '11, 7:56 PM
v v v v He think I ruin him, I just asked him (kris) nice question to him .... :smiley8:

reevefan78
Jun 18, '11, 11:16 PM
Have good news yet? :)

Hey Pat! I'm just waiting patiently while my mold maker buddy gets back to Aquashark this week some time. Last week he was repairing part of his house that had been attacked by termites....thankfully they either died or moved out. But it took him and his boys several days to fix the damage. He emailed me yesterday to say that he needed to clean up his studio then get back to work this upcoming week. He'll be gettin' back to Aquashark though very soon. Sorry for the wait but believe me it will be worth it. My buddy is a master at his craft. I'll post more updates as they become available. More to follow soon so stay tuned! :wink: :grin:

reevefan78
Jun 22, '11, 4:08 PM
Okay folks......here's the latest on 'Aquashark'. Below is a pic showing the hollowed out area on the underbelly (light resin color) where our logo will be placed. Aquashark is almost complete.....we're nearing the finish line. The areas on the body that appear dark are only due to the primer being wet from a rinse in the sink to remove the sanded areas that were primed and polished. Stay tuned......more to follow soon! :wink_y: :grin:

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Aquaman%20vs%20The%20Great%20White%20Shark/100_8777.jpg

MEGO_SUPERMAN
Jun 22, '11, 7:44 PM
Sawheet!

kingdom warrior
Jun 23, '11, 4:31 PM
Oh man, Lou is gonna crap his pants when he sees that shark

That's what I thought exactly!!!!!:rotfl:

johnmiic
Jun 28, '11, 12:05 AM
The areas on the body that appear dark are only due to the primer being wet from a rinse in the sink to remove the sanded areas that were primed and polished.

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Aquaman%20vs%20The%20Great%20White%20Shark/100_8777.jpg


That gives it a nice cammo effect tho.

SPittVol
Jul 4, '11, 2:03 PM
Been a while since the last update, any news? Will these be ready for orders before the summer is over?

reevefan78
Jul 9, '11, 1:52 PM
Been a while since the last update, any news? Will these be ready for orders before the summer is over?

Sorry about the delay. My buddy has had to put Aquashark on the back burner again for another paying gig. Hopefully he'll get back to it soon. I've not posted any updates simply because there was nothing to update since the last one I posted. I'll let everyone know the second he's back on it again. Hope all is well with everyone. Stay tuned.....more to follow soon. :wink_y: :grin:

gummi
Jul 9, '11, 3:23 PM
Out of curiosity, if your friend does ever complete the mold will he be involved with the production pieces at all? It seems like this is definitely low down on his priority list, and I'd be worried that completion of the actual sharks would fall by the wayside as well.

EmergencyIan
Aug 2, '11, 4:36 PM
Any updates on this project?

- Ian

samurainoir
Aug 2, '11, 8:17 PM
Looks like it's in the home stretch anyways. Good luck with it. Looking forward to the next update

SPittVol
Aug 2, '11, 8:26 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product as well.

reevefan78
Aug 6, '11, 2:13 PM
Count me in too! I'm on hold with this until my mold maker friend can get back to it. He's had several interruptions in the process including a trip to SDCC. He's hard at work on 5 prepaid current orders on a project that is not quite sold out yet. He's told me that paying orders must be filled first and I can understand that since he wants to keep his paying customers happy. So I too have to be patient and I feel "the pain" that each of you that have been following this project have felt. It's not dead in the water though and my friend promises me that he'll finish the Aquashark the next time he picks it back up which will hopefully be soon. I'll be sure to update this thread again just as soon as it's back up and runnin'.....promise. Sorry for the delay but it is unfortunately out of my hands and up to my friend as to when it gets done. (Please don't shoot the messenger, LOL). More to follow soon (hopefully). :wink: :grin:

reevefan78
Sep 10, '11, 4:05 PM
Well folks here's the latest on the Aquashark project. After multiple attempts at rotocasting several production sharks without much success (especially in the areas of the fins and pegs that hold the upper jaw in place), my mold maker has informed me that if I want this project to continue we'll need to go back to square one and rethink this project from a molding/casting standpoint. It seems that he is not getting perfect casts and is wasting a lot of resin with the current rotocast molds. I was concerned about this initially and wanted a two part body mold like the original and for it to be pressure cast. It seems this is the way we are headed now. He is getting a few more projects off his table so he can redo the molds and cast these with a greater success rate so that we don't have to spend a great deal of time and money with an inferior product.

Neither of us will produce this if we cannot get something that we would be happy with. We're not in the business of producing anything other than the most perfect product that can be made. We both have a lot of faith in this project still and despite this setback we are committed to achieving our initial goal and we have an alternate plan on how to accomplish this task. I know this will come as a disappointment to most......believe me it's most disappointing to us since it means more time and more money out of our pockets to get this done to our satisfaction. But it is what it is and we'll adapt as best we can.

Below are the last pics he sent me of two of the Aquashark casts....neither of which are perfect which would ultimately mean painting the casts once fixed which I am against. I want them cast in color if at all possible. It may be a while until another update but I just wanted to post this in the interim until my mold maker can get back to square one on this project. As is often said..."if at first you don't succeed...."

More to follow as soon as there is something more to post on this thread. Thanks to everyone for your continued support and encouragement. :wink::grin:

My original Aquashark appears on the far left of the pics, the middle and right shark have been primed and sanded with two different primers. The mold maker asked if I would object to a painted version as seen on the extreme right and I said "yes, absolutely no painted sharks if at all possible.....I want these cast in color that most closely approximates the original Mego sharks." This along with the casting issue has sent this project back to the drawing board. But we are determined to prevail. :yes:

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Aquaman%20vs%20The%20Great%20White%20Shark/Picture005.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Aquaman%20vs%20The%20Great%20White%20Shark/Picture004.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Aquaman%20vs%20The%20Great%20White%20Shark/Picture003.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Aquaman%20vs%20The%20Great%20White%20Shark/Picture002.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/superfly71/Aquaman%20vs%20The%20Great%20White%20Shark/Picture001.jpg

SPittVol
Sep 10, '11, 6:21 PM
Thanks for the update. I hope this project is eventually completed, as I definitely want to add one to my collection.

Man of Action
Sep 10, '11, 7:44 PM
WOW, I think they look great as they are.:licklips:..Good luck..

reevefan78
Sep 11, '11, 12:38 AM
Thanks for the update. I hope this project is eventually completed, as I definitely want to add one to my collection.

Thank you for your kind words. We will DEFINITELY complete this project.....we've just hit a bump in the road. But as with most obstacles that may get in our way in life......it's not a matter of "if" but just "when" (exactly) we will be bringing collectors something we can truly be proud to put our names on. Don't worry.....we're gonna reboot this project soon and it will be better than ever. We're determined to exceed even our own initial expectations. Stay tuned. :wink_y::grin:

Jordiway
Sep 11, '11, 1:23 AM
Thank you for your kind words. We will DEFINITELY complete this project.....we've just hit a bump in the road. But as with most obstacles that may get in our way in life......it's not a matter of "if" but just "when" (exactly) we will be bringing collectors something we can truly be proud to put our names on. Don't worry.....we're gonna reboot this project soon and it will be better than ever. We're determined to exceed even our own initial expectations. Stay tuned. :wink_y::grin:

Can I have the painted shark LOL

Meule
Sep 11, '11, 4:28 AM
What are you gonna do with those 2 sharks? Sell them? I'm sure someone would be more than happy with one of those

thunderbolt
Sep 11, '11, 5:44 AM
They look fine as is, is the rotocasting attempt to try and save materials cost?

reevefan78
Sep 11, '11, 10:00 AM
What are you gonna do with those 2 sharks? Sell them? I'm sure someone would be more than happy with one of those

I'm not sure exactly what my friend intends on doing with those two sharks in the pics I posted last. He asked me initially if I wanted him to send me one of them (the lighter primed version on the far right side) for inspection, photographing and to keep I suppose. He will be making the new molds off my original shark again.

I am considering asking him to take better more closeup pics of the lighter painted one just to be able to post to show folks here until we can reboot this project later this month. If anyone is interested in seeing better pics of the first attempt at this project please let me know and I'll pass it along to my friend and get some better pics posted here in the interim.

Thanks again for all of the kind support. We're gonna overcome this issue....just a bit of a setback is all. It is really cool however to see the casts next to my original and that along with our determination to get this right as well as everyone's continued interest is keeping this project afloat. :grin:

reevefan78
Sep 11, '11, 10:12 AM
They look fine as is, is the rotocasting attempt to try and save materials cost?

The rotocasting process is keeping the thinner areas like the back fins (which were made a bit thicker anyway from the original Mego shark......one of the many tweaks we made so that ours would never be mistaken or passed off for an original shark), the tips of the pectoral fins and the jaw pegs from forming perfectly each time. That coupled with the fact that the thermoplastic original shark is not only lighter in weight but stronger in those areas over the rotocast resin has caused us to rethink the molding/casting process.

We are going to be looking for slightly lighter weight and stronger resins as well as making the next one a two part body (left and right sides not including the head piece which will remain separate as well) and pressure casting the pieces so that the resin is forced into all the "nooks and crannies". We'll save a fortune in resin this way and won't have to waste so much material thereby keeping costs down for us and customers as much as possible. We want to produce the best quality product for our customers without fail. When collectors receive one of our production "Aquasharks" we want them to say......"WOW! It was so worth the wait and the investment....I LOVE IT!!!" :wink_y:

THE FALCON
Sep 11, '11, 6:36 PM
Thanks for the recent pics.

tylerh
Sep 15, '11, 7:18 PM
Here is a thought _ I have been playing with 3D printing lately and this would be a great option for these - depending how much people would want to spend -

The creature itself is pretty basic and would be an easy 3D rendering - Just not sure of the production costs -

How much were you hoping to sell these for?

Saroyan
Oct 19, '11, 10:47 PM
Any updates on this project?

Type Two
Nov 4, '11, 10:46 AM
I'd like to see the whole thing complete and ready to ship out! Ah, someday... . Here's hoping you are able to get some work done on this bad boy before the Holidays close in.

MegoMark71
Nov 4, '11, 10:24 PM
So is anything going on with this?

Toyman_Chris
Nov 16, '11, 11:35 AM
I want!

reevefan78
Nov 17, '11, 1:47 AM
Currently this project is on hiatus until my friend can get back to it and figure out a way to make it to our liking. We have NOT given up yet though........I'm just not sure when he'll be able to return to it. Hopefully something will happen with it by the first of the year. I'll be sure to post an update just as soon as I know something. Thanks to everyone who is continuing interest in this project. I too would like to see it come to fruition one day. :sarky:


So is anything going on with this?

EmergencyIan
Nov 30, '11, 6:07 PM
Currently this project is on hiatus until my friend can get back to it and figure out a way to make it to our liking. We have NOT given up yet though........I'm just not sure when he'll be able to return to it. Hopefully something will happen with it by the first of the year. I'll be sure to post an update just as soon as I know something. Thanks to everyone who is continuing interest in this project. I too would like to see it come to fruition one day. :sarky:

Sounds like it's pretty much dead in the water until further notice. That's too bad.


- Ian

Toyman_Chris
Nov 30, '11, 6:54 PM
I saw a sweet looking repro box on Ebay today. No repro shark tho

clemso
Dec 1, '11, 10:13 AM
Sounds like it's pretty much dead in the water until further notice. That's too bad.


- Ian

Hook, line and sinker?

sprytel
Dec 1, '11, 10:33 AM
Hook, line and sinker?

Sleeps with the fishes?

Saroyan
Dec 8, '11, 1:32 PM
Maybe the project was starting to smell kind of fishy?

Type Two
Dec 12, '11, 9:23 PM
If the "Jaws" movies taught us anything, we learned that no matter how much of a pain in the neck a mechanical shark can be, in the end it is worth the hassle. ;)

Toyman_Chris
Dec 12, '11, 9:39 PM
If the "Jaws" movies taught us anything, we learned that no matter how much of a pain in the neck a mechanical shark can be, in the end it is worth the hassle. ;)


Well said, well said!

misterdroid
Jan 18, '12, 1:27 PM
What I would do, were I making a repro of the shark, is this... the shark is essentially a styrene shell I would have it tooled and produced as a model kit. Have all the parts on sprues and let the buyer assemble. There are some crazy short run model kits out there right now. The HUGE Aurora T-Rex is a run of 1000 if I am not mistaken. I guess the difference is that the molds exist for a lot of these, although I am pretty sure Mobius retooled the Monster Scenes stuff. But that is my 2 cents... approach a small model company, Monarch, Mobius etc.

justzeg18
Aug 14, '12, 10:53 PM
In honor of Shark Week (and my randomly re-piqued interest in this project) I am bumping this monster of a thread back to the main page, and inquiring if there has been any chance of new action w/ this project.

Progress?

megoknight
Aug 15, '12, 6:45 AM
It Lives....It Lives. To paraphrase Scotty at the end of TWOK: It's dead already.