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  • mego73
    Printed paperboard Tiger
    • Aug 1, 2003
    • 6690

    Perhaps the earliest film color footage that exists

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_RTn...ayer_embedded#!

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  • SeattleEd
    SynthoRes Transmigrator
    • Oct 24, 2007
    • 4348

    #2
    NICE! Thanks for posting.
    Of course what better way to show off colored film than to film beautiful women in gorgeously cut and colored clothes. I really like that redhead.

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    • palitoy
      live. laugh. lisa needs braces
      • Jun 16, 2001
      • 60013

      #3
      As a young child, I assumed my parents grew up in black and white.
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      • phil
        Persistent Member
        • May 11, 2007
        • 2087

        #4
        Thanks for the post. This is interesting to see. In the earliest days of movies some were colored by hand, coloring each frame. Of course at time movies only lasted a few minutes.
        Growing up my friends and I joked that WWII happened in black and white because at that time there were few color photos in circulation and even less color film.

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        • Hector
          el Hombre de Acero
          • May 19, 2003
          • 31852

          #5
          That's truly amazing...it has the feel of real live people in the present time...like a true time machine.

          We are so used to B&W...but we always perceive that as "movies".

          We now take color for granted...but imagine seeing this back then...amazing.
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          • Werewolf
            Inhuman
            • Jul 14, 2003
            • 15142

            #6
            That was beautiful. Thank you for posting this. It's amazing the colors are so vivid after all this time. The print must have been very well cared for.
            You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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            • megoscott
              Founding Partner
              • Nov 17, 2006
              • 8709

              #7
              Haunting stuff. That was making the rounds on Facebook this week along with these amazing color photos of Russia at the turn of the century: Russia in color, a century ago - The Big Picture - Boston.com
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              • Brazoo
                Permanent Member
                • Feb 14, 2009
                • 4767

                #8
                Wow - fascinating and SO beautiful! Thanks so much for posting.

                Phil - yeah, hand colour tinting, from what I recall, is the first method of colour processing. There were also other processes that involved different types of film dying or tinting as well.

                I was curious to find out what gave this footage such a strange look. At first it looked like a biocolour film process, but I couldn't really see any missing colours, just strange hues of colour.

                So I did some googling. Luckily I found this article which actually discusses this particular Kodachorome footage:

                "First tests on the Two-Color Kodachrome Process were begun in late 1914. Shot with a dual-lens camera, the process recorded filtered images on black/white negative stock, then made black/white separation positives. The final prints were actually produced by bleaching and tanning a double-coated duplicate negative (made from the positive separations), then dyeing the emulsion green/blue on one side and red on the other. Combined they created a rather ethereal palette of hues."

                Here's the full article. Very cool!
                Kodak: A Thousand Words - Color Motion Pictures - The Earliest Days: 1922

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                • Brazoo
                  Permanent Member
                  • Feb 14, 2009
                  • 4767

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MegoScott
                  Haunting stuff. That was making the rounds on Facebook this week along with these amazing color photos of Russia at the turn of the century: Russia in color, a century ago - The Big Picture - Boston.com
                  Yeah - those are so beautiful!

                  There's also a lot of great WWII colour film and photos around. Very displacing to see at first - at least for me!

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                  • AAAAA
                    Permanent Member
                    • Oct 28, 2005
                    • 2505

                    #10
                    Originally posted by phil
                    Thanks for the post. This is interesting to see. In the earliest days of movies some were colored by hand, coloring each frame. Of course at time movies only lasted a few minutes.
                    Growing up my friends and I joked that WWII happened in black and white because at that time there were few color photos in circulation and even less color film.
                    you should see the History channel's " the color of war. "
                    many archive color combat films have been released in last 10 years .
                    60 years alot of of was mark top secret.

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                    • HardyGirl
                      Mego Museum's Poster Girl
                      • Apr 3, 2007
                      • 13996

                      #11
                      Wow, that was really remarkable! So vibrant color after all these years! And to think that film is older than my parents! (born in '28 and '29). I wonder if the little kid in that film is still alive.
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                      • Sandman9580
                        Career Member
                        • Feb 16, 2010
                        • 741

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brazoo
                        Luckily I found this article which actually discusses this particular Kodachorome footage:

                        "First tests on the Two-Color Kodachrome Process were begun in late 1914. Shot with a dual-lens camera, the process recorded filtered images on black/white negative stock, then made black/white separation positives. The final prints were actually produced by bleaching and tanning a double-coated duplicate negative (made from the positive separations), then dyeing the emulsion green/blue on one side and red on the other. Combined they created a rather ethereal palette of hues."

                        Here's the full article. Very cool!
                        Kodak: A Thousand Words - Color Motion Pictures - The Earliest Days: 1922
                        Interesting, I didn't know there was a two-strip color process... I thought it had always been three. (Like Technicolor.) I really wish movies could be shot nowadays using the older processes. I re-watched The Adventures of Robin Hood last night and thought, why can't modern-day movies look more like this? I'm tired of seeing grey, muddy, metallic, super-sharp, "edgy" cinematography in everything. Back in the old days, tremendous care was taken on-set to achieve beautiful color. Now the assumption seems to be: shoot everything as fast as you can and color-time it however you need to later. Quick and cheap. The Godfather Part II was the last American movie released in Technicolor: that was 1974! The filming, and the printing process especially, were considered too time-consuming. Yeah... heaven forbid we spend the time and expense to make a film look beautiful, and unique.


                        Originally posted by MegoScott
                        That was making the rounds on Facebook this week along with these amazing color photos of Russia at the turn of the century: Russia in color, a century ago - The Big Picture - Boston.com
                        Those are really beautiful. Some of them look surreal. It's interesting he was using the three-strip process, but that they were photographed "in quick succession" and not simultaneously; so any moving object created a rainbow-y halo. My favorite is the picture of the old, dignified ferryman, holding a magenta-limned oar while psychedelic water flows behind him. Beautiful stuff.
                        Last edited by Sandman9580; Aug 27, '10, 8:33 PM.

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                        • UnderdogDJLSW
                          To Fear is Not Logical...
                          • Feb 17, 2008
                          • 4890

                          #13
                          I hadn't heard about the Russian photos. All of this is amazing. Absolutely like being in a time machine.
                          It's all good!

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                          • mego73
                            Printed paperboard Tiger
                            • Aug 1, 2003
                            • 6690

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sandman9580
                            Interesting, I didn't know there was a two-strip color process... I thought it had always been three. (Like Technicolor.) I really wish movies could be shot nowadays using the older processes. I re-watched The Adventures of Robin Hood last night and thought, why can't modern-day movies look more like this? I'm tired of seeing grey, muddy, metallic, super-sharp, "edgy" cinematography in everything. Back in the old days, tremendous care was taken on-set to achieve beautiful color. Now the assumption seems to be: shoot everything as fast as you can and color-time it however you need to later. Quick and cheap. The Godfather Part II was the last American movie released in Technicolor: that was 1974! The filming, and the printing process especially, were considered too time-consuming. Yeah... heaven forbid we spend the time and expense to make a film look beautiful, and unique.




                            Those are really beautiful. Some of them look surreal. It's interesting he was using the three-strip process, but that they were photographed "in quick succession" and not simultaneously; so any moving object created a rainbow-y halo. My favorite is the picture of the old, dignified ferryman, holding a magenta-limned oar while psychedelic water flows behind him. Beautiful stuff.
                            The subdued color of today's movies is a style choice. I like the amped up, popping color of older Technicolor movies as well.

                            A few years ago, I saw a Techicolor dye transfer print of Vertigo, an old one that would be unprojectable in time. I'd never seen color like that in a movie and the DVD and HD broadcast of the movie still doesn't come up to the level of color I saw on the screen from that print. I also saw a Technicolor print of North By Northwest and was similarly impressed.

                            Two strip Technicolor was tried for a few movies (including 2 Fay Wray horror ones, Dr. X and Mystery Of The Wax Museum) but the color came out not quite natural and 2 strip movies would usually be re released and shown on TV in black and white in the face of the more advanced 3 strip technicolor. I think the not quite natual color of Dr. X helps out with the movie though .

                            Those Russia photos are unbelievable BTW.
                            Last edited by mego73; Aug 27, '10, 11:28 PM.

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                            • Sandman9580
                              Career Member
                              • Feb 16, 2010
                              • 741

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mego73
                              Two strip Technicolor was tried for a few movies (including 2 Fay Wray horror ones, Dr. X and Mystery Of The Wax Museum) but the color came out not quite natural and 2 strip movies would usually be re released and shown on TV in black and white in the face of the more advanced 3 strip technicolor. I think the not quite natual color of Dr. X helps out with the movie though .
                              Hmm, I'm intrigued. I just added both of those to my Netflix queue (which is dormant right now so it'll be awhile before I see them). It's possible I've seen two-strip color then, and maybe didn't notice it. I kind of have the memory of seeing films that looked a little faded and unnatural, but I chalked it up to being either a washed-out transfer, or "crappy Technicolor". (A few weeks ago I was watching some old Warner Bros. shorts, and the Technicolor was really bad. It looked thick and muddy, and the colors kept phasing in and out on a loop [uneven emulsion?] For a moment, I'd thought I was having a seizure.)

                              As for the modern style choice: yeah, I'm all for diversity, just not a huge fan of pseudo-hipness and wimpy imitation. Seven was the first movie I saw where I really became aware of bleach bypass (where the silver nitrate is left in, so you're essentially seeing an emergent combination of color and black-and-white.) And I love the over-exposed, different-film-stocks-patched-together look of Saving Private Ryan. But then when you see that look in every thriller and war movie that comes down the pike, it gets tiring. I want to see the full spectrum: an old-school, Technicolor comic book movie along with Sin City, or a rich, subtle, Maxfield Parrish-hued fantasy movie along with... all those other fantasy movies that look like they were shot on color-blind video cameras.

                              *That reminds me: when I was taking a video class some years ago, I found a Final Cut Pro recipe for achieving pseudo bleach bypass: basically creating a B&W copy and combining it with color at half transparency. It was sorta neat, but it had a flat, sterile quality about it that really underscored the unique beauty of real film. You can't fake it.
                              Last edited by Sandman9580; Aug 28, '10, 3:21 AM.

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