Anyone here seen the Superman/Doomsday movie yet? [Archive]

ScottA

Sep 19, '07, 12:01 PM

Like I said I treated myself to it yesterday for my birthday and I watched it last night. I have to say I was very dissappointed with it. There is a lot to discuss about it but I won't spoil it for anyone until more people have seen it. I will say it earned its PG-13 rating.

palitoy

Sep 19, '07, 12:24 PM

Guess what I'm doing tonight?

EMCE Hammer

Sep 19, '07, 2:58 PM

Guess what I'm doing tonight?

Watching Superman/Doomsday in your Scooby Doo jammies?

I picked it up yesterday; with any luck I'll have some time tonight when all is quiet. I'm still stinging over the Brainiac movie, so I hope this one is better.

palitoy

Sep 19, '07, 3:01 PM

Watching Superman/Doomsday in your Scooby Doo jammies?

I picked it up yesterday; with any luck I'll have some time tonight when all is quiet. I'm still stinging over the Brainiac movie, so I hope this one is better.

Close, I'll be filling out envelopes in anticipation of the apes cards while watching this movie.

I never bothered with the Brainiac movie and I'm glad.

Goblin19

Sep 19, '07, 3:32 PM

One of my coworkers bought it for me for my birthday so I watched it last night. I was also a little disappointed. It all felt a little too rushed. It definitely did earn the PG-13 rating, though.

toys2cool

Sep 19, '07, 4:05 PM

I still wanna watch it ,I loved the comic.So I always wanted to see it in a cartoon

kingdom warrior

Sep 19, '07, 4:12 PM

I came close to buying today...passed on it for now........

jwyblejr

Sep 19, '07, 6:46 PM

The biggest gripe I've heard is there are no other superheoes in it. So that's one reason why I'm steering clear.

batmanmc

Sep 19, '07, 8:32 PM

i would like to see it anyways.

jds1911a1

Sep 19, '07, 8:41 PM

the last couple strait to vid/dvd releases were weak I will wait for it to show up used on amazon

BlackKnight

Sep 19, '07, 10:24 PM

It all felt a little too rushed.

... How so ? He died like 10 yrs ago in the comic. :smiley1:

ctc

Sep 20, '07, 12:25 AM

Hmmmm....

The comic was essentially a 200 page fight scene, (like Dragonball) so I wondered how it'd translate to animation. Unless you wanted to do a super-kinetic hyper fight scene (like Dragonball) I could see it being kinda flat. And the usual WB animation isn't too hyper-kinetic. Some of their more cartoony stuff is though. So which style did they use for the animation; and do you folks who've seen it think it was good or bad for they story?

Don C.

thunderbolt

Sep 20, '07, 3:42 AM

The Death of Superman storyline never did much for me in the first place, so I'm not too interested in it. I might eventually rent it to see how Timm did with it.

JDeRouen

Sep 20, '07, 3:40 PM

It was $12.99 at Best Buy and I had a $5.00 Reward Zone coupon, so for $7.99, how could I not buy it? (At best Buy, it also came with a mini New Frontiers comic, so that was a cool bonus.) Haven't watched it yet, though!

palitoy

Sep 20, '07, 4:02 PM

Well, I watched it last night and frankly, it's what I expected. Like TBolt, I really thought the Death of Superman story was a lame cash grab to begin with, so my hopes were low.

So, it's no surprise I give this a big ol' Meh, it wasn't terrible, it just wasn't great either. I enjoyed the more adult theme in many places, especially the Lois and Clark relationship. The Superman seemed to be a blend of Christopher Reeves and the Weisenger era Supes, which was weird but worked.

Lex Luthor was entirely wrong IMO, too thin and far too creepy in persona. Doomsday was entirely what he was in the comics, a walking plot device.

Spoiler Stuff is in white:

The Kevin Smith Cameo was great.
The Toyman looked like he crawled out of a bad Spawn knockoff comic, killing children?
Mercy getting shot in the head was just over the top.
The lack of other DCU heroes made the funeral sort of dry.

MegoSteve

Sep 20, '07, 5:49 PM

I was kind of surprised to see that it's already on Xbox 360's video marketplace as a rental, so I may just download it over the weekend and watch, though I absolutely hated that period of Superman history.

The Toyroom

Sep 20, '07, 6:16 PM

The Toyman looked like he crawled out of a bad Spawn knockoff comic, killing children?

Yeah that was the 90s take on the character...turning him into a serial killer. I think he knocked off Cat Grant's kid if I recall. They took The Prankster and gave him a makeover as well, although not as chilling as The Toyman's. Obviously the powers that be thought the old incarnations were too silly (duh! that's the point of them) to be taken seriously as worthy adversaries for the new and improved post-Crisis/Byrned Man of Steel.

Toyman had a run in with Batman also and may have been thrown into Arkham but I'm not 100% sure...I don't know where the character stand continuity -wise today.

Earth 2 Chris

Sep 21, '07, 7:01 AM

So, I'm guessing I don't need to watch this with my 5 year old?

Sounds a bit over the top. Frankly, JLU is as "adult" as I want my animated super heroes. I loved it, but a few times it skirted the edge of what I was comfortable showing my kid. This sounds way beyond that.

I actually liked the original Death of Superman, and the early 90s Superman comics. I think it was done to give the books some attention and explore how the DCU would exist without the big guy, but the media frenzy over it took even DC by surprise. It hit on a slow news day. I think after "Reign of the Superman" they lost their way. The murderous Toyman was totally lame and an attempt to give Superman a psychologically twisted, Batman-type villain.

Plus, why take out the 4-replacement Supes, but add in Toyman? Weird.

Chris

The Toyroom

Sep 21, '07, 7:11 AM

Plus, why take out the 4-replacement Supes, but add in Toyman? Weird.

I haven't seen it but I'm assuming the 4 fake Supes weren't included because of a time issue and that's pretty much an entire story/DVD on it's own. As for Toyman that's really confusing as he wasn't even part of the original storyline in the comics. Maybe he was added to get the PG-13 rating? More sales if it's perceived as "adult"?

Comic Book Geek

Sep 21, '07, 7:13 AM

The thing I liked most about the comic was all of the other heroes, first getting mowed over by Doomsday, leaving the only hope for the world up to Supes, and then all of the heroes after he died... So when I saw this had no other heroes, I was less interested.

Also, (and I haven't seen this yet) why reinvent Luthor? Didn't Superman TAS and JLU define him perfectly? I'm not sure why this and Brainiac Attacks feel the need to fix something that was dead on perfect.

jds1911a1

Sep 21, '07, 9:15 AM

Thanks to all who put info I will avoid this one.

palitoy

Sep 21, '07, 9:47 AM

So, I'm guessing I don't need to watch this with my 5 year old?

This is not for five year olds, they would not like it.

Goblin19

Sep 21, '07, 9:48 AM

BlackKnight, I meant the actual plot seemed rushed, not the time it took to make the movie. The movie was 75 minutes, leaving no time for character or plot development.

filmation batman fan

Sep 21, '07, 6:09 PM

I'm going to be the odd man out here, but I actually liked it. If they had to do this story without including the rest of the DCU, they did a good job. I only have one gripe. Perry White did not look like Perry White. The traditional "Chief" was replaced by this bald guy, but I loved what they did with Jimmy Olsen in terms of redesign and story. The adult themes with Superman and Lois were good. James Marsters Lex Luthor reminded me of the Kevin Spacey Lex Luthor from Superman Returns without the humor, plus he was too skinny.
I felt this was better than Brainiac Attacks, but the voice over cast does take some getting used to. I felt they could have done without the extras cracks in Superman's face to make him look older. And Toyman looked like a sick pedaphile or somebody that Batman would go up against. Superman/Doomsday has something Brainiac Attacks does not. Real theme music and an excellent score along with opening credits.
While it is not like the comics story arc, I still enjoyed it. Now if only WB would consider doing the same thing with Batman and the Knightfall, Knightquest, Knightsend story arcs.
Cheers.

jemboy2004

Sep 21, '07, 8:20 PM

I got it too and I didn't love it but I did like. I almost let my godson watch it with me but then looked it over and said no maybe not. Glad I did too.

BlackKnight

Sep 21, '07, 8:43 PM

I haven't seen it but I'm assuming the 4 fake Supes weren't included because of a time issue and that's pretty much an entire story/DVD on it's own. As for Toyman that's really confusing as he wasn't even part of the original storyline in the comics. Maybe he was added to get the PG-13 rating? More sales if it's perceived as "adult"?

Thats lame that the 4 "other" Supermen are not in it... That was the only thing remotely cool about the comic story. Conner,.. Superboy Clone of Lex & Superman, Steel Just Rules,.. & Cyborg Superman is one of my Favorite Villians right now in DCU,... Using the character to fight The Green Lantern Corps is just too cool,.. & Priceless. :yes:

I personally have yet to pick it up,... sat in like 3 hour traffic on the way home from work,.. decided the stores & people traffic would ruin me mentally. :googly:

Earth 2 Chris

Sep 21, '07, 8:44 PM

Looks like I won't get a chance to see this anytime soon. Of the two rental places in town, neither has it. And our supposed "Super" Wal-Mart doesn't even have it for sale.

I'll wait a few months and buy it cheap. Or maybe Cartoon Network will run it soon.

Chris

batmanmc

Sep 22, '07, 9:38 AM

i might get it. thought about it the other day. or i could borrow ric's. not sure wht ill do yet. mike

toys2cool

Sep 22, '07, 11:15 AM

MegoSteve

Sep 22, '07, 5:40 PM

Oddly enough, I really enjoyed it. I guess my expectations were lowered by all the fair-to-middlin' reviews it got on the Internet, but I thought it was pretty good. I'd say a solid 8 out of 10 at least.

One thing that irked me was the casting, though. I just didn't care for it, to the point it was like nails on the chalkboard at the beginning, because they should have used the actors from the other Superman animated projects. No one is buying these DVDs because Anne Heche is Lois Lane and Adam Baldwin is Superman, so I don't quite understand spending extra money to replace the existing voice talent with "movie stars."

I guess I'm too used to Tim Daly as Superman.

The Toyroom

Sep 22, '07, 6:53 PM

I guess I'm too used to Tim Daly as Superman.

He seems to be popping up all over the tube lately...I wonder if he was unavailable?

VintageMike

Sep 22, '07, 10:40 PM

I thought it was OK. Didn't see Brainiac attacks so I can't compare it to that. I think they meshed elements of the four replacements into the clone Superman. Making Toyman so twisted worked because it tied into what happened to him. The angle they took with the cloned Superman (think Superman with the attitude of The Punisher) was cool. Also enjoyed the bonus feature about the original storyline a great deal as remember the hoopla well.
The way the adult themes were presented give me high hopes for the Teen Titans "Judas Contract" adaptation.

BlackKnight

Sep 23, '07, 9:52 AM

Well Said Mike. I gotta chance to finally see it too. I felt the same way. I didn't think it was horrible either. Thought it was good for what it's worth. Just didn't care for Luther's voice, nore his look. Everything else was good. I also thought the voices for Superman & Lois, somewhat matched the previous actors in some ways. I thought it worked.

Merlyn1976

Sep 28, '07, 10:23 AM

This is not for five year olds, they would not like it.

My 2 yr old loved it :smiley1:

huedell

Sep 28, '07, 10:33 AM

I guess I'm too used to Tim Daly as Superman.

George Newbern did a heckuva job mimicking Daly's voice following S:TAS

LadyZod

Oct 4, '07, 9:39 PM

I saw it, and being a rather big fan of Superman, I was not disappointed.

Mostly because I didn't expect much to begin with, but that is besides the point.

It was ok. I would have tweaked the story a little here and there to include the 4 other Supermen.

Mirror Universe Spoilers:
Would have introduced Hank Henshaw as a scientist working for Luthor on the clones, injecting himself with Supe's DNA and becoming the Cyborg Supes when the Superman robot arrives at Lexcorp to steal Supes' body (explosion). Would have had an unfinished clone (Superboy) escape during Henshaw's transformation and body break-out. Superman's robot would take over as the Eradicator Superman archtype, which would have gone along the same delvelopment as the Luthor clone did in the movie. And John Henry? He would have helped Lois and Jimmy during the Superman/doomsday fight and then put on a suit of armor to fight the Superman Robot gone loco (caused by Henshaw controling him as a means to get back at Luthor and Superman for his condition.)

Ahh, to dream.

But aside from that, Supe's face bothered me to no getout. I mean, was it necessary to give him those HUGE cheek bone lines? The man looked ancient. But at least he wasn't voiced by Tim Daly. I feel Supes and Clark should sound a LITTLE different than each other. Helps with the suspension of disbelief a little.

thunderbolt

Oct 5, '07, 4:04 AM

I still gotta rent this thing. Is there a preview for New Frontier on it? That's the one I really want to see.

Cosmicman

Oct 5, '07, 9:21 AM

Good story!!
I can't get past the crappy cheek bones on the animated Superman and the Lex Luthor that looks like like a crackhead. If the art was a little better in the animation department, this movie would have been a gem in my book.

SlipperyLilSuckers

Oct 7, '07, 6:26 AM

Mmmm. I guess by the sound of it I will just be renting it too.

Earth 2 Chris

Oct 7, '07, 9:06 AM

Okay, I got a copy of this and watched it last night. I really enjoyed it. A good Superman movie. I think I would have rather have seen this as a live action flick over Superman Returns (although I did like that movie for its own merits). The violence is a bit much for my kid, but it was tastefully done. The adult situations and language weren't too overdone, and they made sense in the context of the movie.

Going in knowing this was a completely different continuity than anything that went before it, I was able to get past Superman's cheekbones and other oddities compared to the Timm DCU. I actually liked this portrayl of Lois. Its clear why Superman loves this gal. I missed Dana Delany's smart-alec delivery, but this Lois seemed more straight-forward, so it worked out okay.

Even Mullet-Man of Steel was handled well. If you like Superman, I'd give this a shot. But I wouldn't watch it with a kid under the age of 9 or so, perosnally.

Chris