Star Trek Deep Space Nine talk

[Mikey]

Ever since the early/mid 70's I was a huge Star Trek fan.
When the movies came out I was in hog heaven.

When Next Generation premiered I wasn't happy (knowing it would feature an all new cast and set 100 years in the future) but I did give it a chance.

I was never a big fan of Next Gen, but I did watch it --- mostly because there was nothing better on.

Then DS-9 premiered ......
I gave that a chance too --- but this show I hated.
To me it was boring and unStar Trek like.
But, I did occassionally watch it for the same reason I watched Next Gen.

After a few years when the Dominion War plot began it sucked me in.
By the time DS-9 ended it's run I was truly sad to see it go.
Yes, it was still unStar Trek like but I think grew into its own entity.

That's more than I can say for Next Gen which still had the 1000lb gorilla around it's neck called The Classic Series.

Voyage and Enterprise was and still is totally unwatchable for me.

As far as i'm concerned the Star Trek franchise died after the showing of the last DS-9 episode.

The New Movie is cool ... but I don't count that in my timeline.

So what do you think ?

Did you like DS-9 -- especially the last few seasons too ?

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[txteach]

I loved DS9. Avery Brooks was the type of leader I always liked when I was in the military. I miss this show.

[Nostalgiabuff]

I thought the first few seasons were dull, but when Worf joined and the Dominion war got into full swing it really came into it's own. the final season was weak. I still think the episode where DS9 goes to war with the Klingon fleet is one of the alltime greatest trek episodes out there....I think it might have been the season 4 premier?
Enterprise I never could get into, i watched it once in a while though.
Voyager was another one that the first few seasons were weak, i did like it once they added 7 of 9. Not sure why. :wink_y: and i think Voyager also came into it's own in the last few years and was an enjoyable show, although I would never call it a great show

[Mikey]

DS9 characters grew on me after a while.
My favorite character is Quark.

[spamn]

DS9 is my favorite Trek. Everything after the 4th season premiere is great stuff. Before that it was hit or miss, but there are some gems there too.

I liked Next Gen too, but DS9 was the champ in my eyes. Voyager and Enterprise failed to grab me, though. I think the new Stargate is a far better example of the stranded in space setting, and of course, the new Battlestar Galactica beats 'em both.

[EMCE Hammer]

As for Voyager, I would rather watch 100 hours of Wesley Crusher than a minute of Neelix. DS9 was OK, but I never liked it as much as my favorite TNG episodes. There were a few DS9s that I would take over some of the weaker TNG eps.

[CaptainTrenchcoat]

Loved DS9. Especially the later seasons. Didn't like the ending though. Kinda weak. Have really enjoyed the novels that are set after the series.

[Random Axe]

I have to say it was my favorite series of all the Treks. I loved the tension, the politics and the seriousness of the series. I know there were a few lighter moments, but having all of them on one space station on the edge of a war on two fronts was really well thought out and made for some neat stories and arcs. I thought it was compelling television, but then my tastes are usually in question.

Scott

[wilbs518]

I totally loved DS9! i loved Quark, too. The characters were great. I watch the series all of the time. I don't know why so many people dislike it. I definitely miss the show.

[Thor]

I loved DS9 because it actually took the step into the realistic plot device of warfare. It makes sense that all species encountered can be reasoned with. I hear Roddenberry disliked the Dominion war story but I disagree with him in that argument.

[ctc]

Hmmmm....

I didn’t care for Next Gen so much; mostly ‘cos the characters were WAY too perfect. Made them boring. Didn’t like DS9 until the season that was mostly O’Brien and the Doc hanging out doing space-guy stuff. THAT was awesome ‘cos you never see the ordinary people stuff on any sci-fi show. (So.... the Doc is a super powered mutate and they use his abilities to shake folks down at the dart board! HAW!) The Dominion War was where I gave up. Space war stories kinda bug me ‘cos I’ve seen it so many times before.

Voyager was a weird case. The first half of the series was WAY bad. But the second had some good stuff. Unfortunately they never took any of the ideas to any sort of conclusion. So.... Neelix dies, and suffers an existential quandary ‘cos the afterlife wasn’t at all what his religion told him it would be.... which is a neat idea.... but in the end it sort of goes away. Same with the Klingon woman’s disowning her heritage. (and they DID an episode about that!) Or half the crew being Starfleet, the other half terrorists. Or any number of other ideas.

Don C.

[Meule]

I loved DS9, especially when the whole Dominion plot started, I wish they'd show reruns here. Voyager too, I actually like that show :yes:

[wolfie]

I think all the Star Trek series had good episodes and not so good ones. I liked the Doctor in Voyager, he was really funny.

DS9 was more of a story arc type of thing and i can imagine the Babylon 5 fans liking this series.

[Mikey]

I could never get into Babylon 5

I only watched a few episodes --- and that was too much for me.

[HardyGirl]

I liked DS9 before it got on the Domnion crap. I HATE watching the same flippimg plot week after week. It's BORING! Michael Pillar said he saw that mistake w/ the Kazon on Voyager and stopped that pretty quick, only to do the same thing w/ DS9. :yuk:

I was also pretty annoyed Terry Farrell couldn't stick it out one more year as Dax. No offense to Nicole DeBoer, but she just wasn't cutting it. :no:

[Nostalgiabuff]

actually B5 was pitched to paramount to be Star Trek and they vetoed it. Lo and behold along comes DS9.
I liked b5 seasons 2-4, beyond that it was really hit or miss.
DS9 was basically the same way except it was more like seasons 4-6

[Mikey]

B5 had some weird special guests ... didn't Will Robinson, Chekov and Flounder play on B5 ?

[samurainoir]

I'm squarely in the Babylon 5 camp on this one, and I agree, Season 2-4 were the ones to watch. I'm sure the CGI SFX have not aged very well, but it seemed to me that B5 was always a step ahead of DS9 on a number of levels.

The big innovation of B5 was the fact that it did have an evolving storyline that didn't reset the status quo at the end of every episode, and it really felt like The Dominion War was DS9's attempt at that longer form storytelling, only they had to revert back every time because it's Star Trek. Although they probably have the best leeway from Roddenberry's vision of the future, because only half the cast were Starfleet, so you could have Bajorans, Ferengi and Odo running around doing "UnStarTrekLike" things.

[samurainoir]

B5 had some weird special guests ... didn't Will Robinson, Chekov and Flounder play on B5 ?

Not to mention Dilbert creator Scott Adams.

And Majel Barrett!

http://www.themakeupgallery.info/images/fantasy/alien/b5/centauri/morella2.jpg

[garagesale]

My son and I watched every ST from TOS-ENT last year. We both agreed that DS9 really stood out and may even be tied w/TOS as our favorite ST of all time.

JamesD

[Trappy Trek Freak]

I really like DS9 and TOS. I especially liked it when DS9 crew went back in time to the tribble episode with TOS crew. I thought it was funny that Worf has the new Klingon look and they talked about that when they saw the old Klingons. I liked Enterprise but they should have used TOS-like uniforms like in a Mirror Darkly. They explained the Klingons not having ridged foreheads on Enterprise when the human Data,Brent Spiner, made Kahn/Klingons or augments. I like Enterprise just not the uniforms except for T'Pol's ofcourse.:wink_y:

[vulcan2074]

I loved DS9. Avery Brooks was the type of leader I always liked when I was in the military. I miss this show.

Same here. I bought all the Seasons when they came out. I watch them regularly. :beaming1:
Sammy

[jds1911a1]

DS9 was ok it got alot better in season 2 when Avery Brooks turned back into Hawk from Spencer for Hire

My favorote minor player in TNG was O'brien and he was the reason I started watching ds9. oddly the Dominion story line was when I got really tired of it (but it did spin off a great CD of rat pack tunes by James Daren I love)

Terry Ferrell was great to look

[Mikey]

Just had a thought ... ever notice Torchwood is kind of a copy of Section 31 ?

[UnderdogDJLSW]

I never really liked the Section 31 plots. I felt that was too "un-trek-ish." I too was a big fan of Avery Brooks in this show and Sisko is the other captain most like Kirk in my opinion.

[trekman101]

I loved DS9...to me it was the best written trek series....never anti climactic like some of its sister series did from time to time...the first couple of seasons weren't up to what they should have been but when Avery Brooks made Sisko a force to be reckoned with...the show really took off...the war arc was done very well and Sisko became the best war time captain trek ever had...I really miss it a lot :ugh_y:

[Random Axe]

DS9 was ok it got alot better in season 2 when Avery Brooks turned back into Hawk from Spencer for Hire

I always wanted to see that little beanie on him and a white leather trench. Sisco was my favorite of the captains. He was subtle when needed, but had balls the size of Neptune, and his adversaries knew it. He was the true poet warrior Trek needed.

Scott

[Nostalgiabuff]

didn't Will Robinson, Chekov and Flounder play on B5
yeah they were all on, Flounder and Will robinson were both regulars through the whole run and Chekov was a recurring villain.
they had a lot of people pop up on there - michael york, john schuck to name a few

[Earth 2 Chris]

I liked each new Trek series less, and DS9 started out with a heavy dose of talk and soap opera that just bored me to tears. Of course, I was a teenager/young adult then, so I may think differently of them now. I did watch the occasional episode, and it did seem to improve over time.

By the time Voyager launched, I was in college, and our TV choices were limited. So Voyager came on the local Fox affiliate every week, and I watched it out of lack of anything else. I kind of got into it, but soon realized it was actually not very good. The infamous episode where Paris de-evolves after going past Warp 10 and then him and Janeway get it on as slugs was just the final straw.

Chris

[Mikey]

Was just watching a few of the last episodes last night on DVD ... I never noticed how annoying the new Dax was.

[tay666]

I liked DS9 a lot.
I enjoyed the first season and couldn't wait for each new episode.
But after season 2 started my interest was failing fast. I kind of gave up on it.
Tuned back in when they got Worf and O'Brian and started ripping off the B5 style with the Dominion war.
Was hooked from there. I really liked the character developement.
It struck just the right balance between storyline and character moments.
Unlike TNG. I was getting really turned off on how it was become more of a character show, than an intersting scifi show.

Voyager started with huge promise, but squanderd that almost immediately.
I stuck with it for way too long. Probably because I regretted not sticking with DS9.
Even having 7of9 in her bodysuit to drool over wasn't enough to save that series though.
It was pure formula. And total reset every episode. How many times did Janeway have the same epiphany during that run?
She would struggle with a decision, make the wrong one, realize her mistake and everything ended up working out in the last 90 seconds of the episode. Then all would be forgotten and no one would question her about her complete lack of leadership skills.