is someone here BenBarb on ebay?

[saucerful]

Benbarb on ebay has consistently wonderful stuff! if it's you, congratulations! and please reveal yourself so i can become your new best friend!!!

look: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ2QQsassZbenbarbQQsbrsrtZd

bryan:drool_y:

[Cryptoys]

They are a member here but I can't remeber who they are.
They get top $ for their stuff because it's so nice.

[Meule]

That would be Greg (AusTex), he's as honest as they come. Great guy, great seller and great photographer (just look at his pics on eBay :drool: ).

[megoat]

great pics for sure. Nice clean figures. I still don't see why figures with mostly repro parts are advertised as ORIGINAL in the title, though. Totally misleading--"Hey check out this totally ORIGINAL Supergirl with repro shoes, cape and emblem!".......

[batmanmc]

hyis stuff is as good as it gets and he tells you whats repo aned whats orignal. i wouldnt mind a couple more figs from him down the line. mike

[toys2cool]

yeah his stuff always looks awesome,that just shows that great pics and some good cleaning could go long ways on ebay,
now if only I could learn how clean mine so good :embarassed:

[kresge1]

His stuff is top notch and yes ,he is an amzing photographer

[megocrazy]

A nice presentation will always make extra $$$. I was starting to think they had a time machine. They do always have some really nice Megos.

[kresge1]

A nice presentation will always make extra $$$. I was starting to think they had a time machine. They do always have some really nice Megos.

Presentation and timing on Ebay is the key

[SlipperyLilSuckers]

Yes, Greg's photography is stunning, and his descriptions are alluring too.

[jds1911a1]

I have bought from him a few times and always exactly what you bid on. top notch seller

[Zemo]

I think this auction of his misleading.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mego-8-RARE-Teen-Titan-Speedy-Complete-NICE-ORIGINAL_W0QQitemZ150157509390QQihZ005QQcategoryZ1 169QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Title says:RARE Teen Titan Speedy Complete NICE ORIGINAL!
Description says:ALL ORIGINAL vintage Mego except for his gloves, hat and bow

Uh that's half his accessories.:terror:

[saucerful]

I've been following this thread that I started, and I have to say that while I agree that BenBarb's stuff is super good looking and all that and drool-worthy, I do find it misleading to say ALL ORIGINAL in the heading and then the fine print qualifies that to say, by the way, there are all these repro parts.

That song by Tom Waits (was it "Step right up"?) said it best: "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away."

Bryan

[batmanmc]

true narygo . it can be misleading. he is an outstandings eller who tells you in an auction whats fake though.

[Hulk]

You will rarely find a more accurate and honest description of a loose Mego figure than a benbarb auction. Maybe you feel mislead by his calling the figure original in the title, but you know exactly what you are getting when you read the description. We'd all be better off if most sellers were this meticulous.

[kresge1]

Like i said before,His stuff is cherry mint and if you read the description your safe

[The Bat]

You've got a good point Paul...eveyone should always take the time, to read the description carefully.

[saucerful]

I agree that after spending time reading the meticulous description that I'm happy as a clam.

[SUPERUNDERDOGGIE]

I'M BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!


Wait.....What's the question again?

[megoat]

I wouldn't accuse him of being overtly deceitful. His pictures are great and his stuff looks real clean and his descriptions are well...descriptive. In the description he's obviously not trying to hide anything.

I just personally don't like misleading titles--like a seller advertising "VINTAGE MEGO SUPERMAN MINT ON CARD" and then when you view the auction it's a repro card. In my particular parlance, "Mint on card" does not apply to repro cards nor is a figure "original" when it has repro accessories. But maybe that's just me......

[Zemo]

In my particular parlance, "Mint on card" does not apply to repro cards nor is a figure "original" when it has repro accessories. But maybe that's just me......

I agree. If the Title says Complete and Original, that's what I expect to see.
Anything else is just a sales tactic.

[huedell]

I wouldn't accuse him of being overtly deceitful. His pictures are great and his stuff looks real clean and his descriptions are well...descriptive. In the description he's obviously not trying to hide anything.

I just personally don't like misleading titles--like a seller advertising "VINTAGE MEGO SUPERMAN MINT ON CARD" and then when you view the auction it's a repro card. In my particular parlance, "Mint on card" does not apply to repro cards.

Interesting. I disagree.

First off let me say: benbarb is a great seller top of the line seller---I know
this from experience
but what HE does is actually more decietful than what YOU guys are
describing as "a no-no" with this:
"VINTAGE MEGO MINT ON CARD title and then when you view the auction
it's a repro card" as if that's bad at all (and I've seen some comment on this
before)

I'm always flabbergasted when you guys are actually annoyed by the
-"VINTAGE MEGO MINT ON CARD title" ---sure, it may be a way to get you
to look at the auction---yes---but its a totally honest title
----not decietful one bit-----its a MINT figure ON a CARD.
That's misleading to those who will read it another way---and obviously
that works in the sellers favor----but it's an honest wording nevertheless

yet benbarb (again, admittedly a great seller) says "all original" in the
description and some give him a pass when it actually isn't ALL original?

Doesn't make any sense.

[rcbats1]

Greg is a great guy and a pretty darn good salesman. The Title is nothing but a drawing point for buyers pure and simple. Cant knock a seller who's trying to get as many reads as possible. More impotantly,his descriptions are clear and accurate and his pics tell the story even more. Not only that, last time I looked his feedback is near 99.9.

M.

[dumbldor]

MINT ON CARD is a longtime phrase in the vintage toy hobby that means 'original figure on original factory sealed card'. There is NO GRAY AREA with this term. Any other use of this term is FALSE and DECEPTIVE, or the seller is an ignorant numb nut.

[huedell]

Greg is a great guy and a pretty darn good salesman. The Title is nothing but a drawing point for buyers pure and simple. Cant knock a seller who's trying to get as many reads as possible. More impotantly,his descriptions are clear and accurate and his pics tell the story even more. Not only that, last time I looked his feedback is near 99.9.


And let me reiterate in case (god forbid) Greg or any of his potential buyers
aren't sure----there aren't many better sellers than Greg----as far
as I'm concerned he will NEVER deliver anything less than a
high-quality transaction

Its just in my last post---in the context of the "MINT ON CARD" auctions
----I thought Greg's auction were significantly more smoke and mirrors
due to the wording is all

However...I DO agree with rcbats when he says: "The Title is nothing but a
drawing point for buyers pure and simple. Cant knock a seller who's trying to
get as many reads as possible." that's really what this is all about
and I think its fair to "increse your views/chances" as a seller

just don't cross "that line" ----admittedly "that line" is a thin one
-----PERSONALLY I don't see it being crossed in THIS particular thread
__________________________________________


MINT ON CARD is a longtime phrase in the vintage toy hobby that means 'original figure on original factory sealed card'. There is NO GRAY AREA with this term. Any other use of this term is FALSE and DECEPTIVE, or the seller is an ignorant numb nut.

"longtime phrase" is right.....and that's where you're asking for trouble
in being so rigid

not everyone is "old school"----especially on ebay

In this day and age of a lot of high quality reproduction packaging you have
to be more flexible with terms unless you're living in the Stone Age so to
speak....I think the people who don't evolve with terminology are closer to
being the ignorant ones rather than the sellers who are doing nothing wrong

[Zemo]

There's a another thread that rips the seller for the title of trek stuff and then when you read his description you find out what your bidding on. In principle both auctions are doing the same thing.

I just want to note that I would buy from benbarb anyday and have. His merch is great. It seems I just have to read the whole auction to see exactly what I'm bidding on. Personally I think being the quality seller that he is, I shouldn't have to.

[Meule]

"longtime phrase" is right.....and that's where you're asking for trouble
in being so rigid

not everyone is "old school"----especially on ebay

In this day and age of a lot of high quality reproduction packaging you have
to be more flexible with terms unless you're living in the Stone Age so to
speak....I think the people who don't evolve with terminology are closer to
being the ignorant ones rather than the sellers who are doing nothing wrong


That is bullsh**. "Mint on card" is a set phrase and still means now what it did a couple of years ago and it'll still have the same meaning in a couple of years. Certain phrases don't evolve, like T1 and T2, MIB and MOC. And that has nothing to do with Stone Age (where do you get that crap?) or being flexible. There is no grey area in MOC. If I see that in an auction I expect a mint figure on a original card. Otherwise call it MORC (Mint On Repro Card)

[huedell]

That is bullsh**. "Mint on card" is a set phrase and still means now what it did a couple of years ago and it'll still have the same meaning in a couple of years. Certain phrases don't evolve, like T1 and T2, MIB and MOC. And that has nothing to do with Stone Age (where do you get that crap?) or being flexible. There is no grey area in MOC. If I see that in an auction I expect a mint figure on a original card. Otherwise call it MORC (Mint On Repro Card)

I disagree...I mean, MAYBE there's a case for "drawing you in advertising"
bull...but its nothing more than just that

If something is MINT and on a CARD ----it is exactly that

The abbreviation "MOC" alone to describe the same thing?

slightly different....and makes me more understanding to your gripe...as I'll
try to explain....

---obviously abbreviating it to "MOC" is different in tone to calling it
"MINT ON CARD" in the context of "VINTAGE FIGURE MINT ON CARD"
if you don't see that difference in context---then I don't know what to tell ya

Your term MORC is fine too---and more representative of the item

But then people would have to figure out what that stands for

I don't think I've ever seen it used before---but seems a useful abbreviation
term---

When I used the term "evolve" I didn't particularly mean that the "old way"
was to be completely banished---its just that there are different ways of viewing
"old terms" and everyone should be aware---especially the "old schoolers"
who really are the ones affected MOST by this----the new guys (like me)
probably just see it as a different way of advertising albeit--- a bit runaround
especially with a classic abbreviation like "MOC" used as opposed to
the "VINTAGE FIGURE MINT ON CARD" context
__________________________________________


And that has nothing to do with Stone Age (where do you get that crap?)

Thomas---I get it from people being stuck in the past--

[txteach]

By evolve I think you mean by people who want to manipulate the term so they won't get caught doing wrong. MOC has been the term for a long time and doesn't need to evolve. Only people who want to get over on others want the term to change. I personally have no opinion on the whole benbarb thing but moc means a new, mint figure on original card. You can't change the term to suit your needs.

[huedell]

By evolve I think you mean by people who want to manipulate the term so they won't get caught doing wrong. MOC has been the term for a long time and doesn't need to evolve. Only people who want to get over on others want the term to change. I personally have no opinion on the whole benbarb thing but moc means a new, mint figure on original card. You can't change the term to suit your needs.

Well, okay, particularly regarding the "MOC" discussion yeah---I guess if you
use that abbreviation alone---there's cause to gripe---and I said as much
in my post above (along with all the other stuff I said)

If you're miffed because someone used the "MOC"
abbreviation to draw an "educated" old schooler in---fine---get miffed
---that is its main intention and its kinda cheap :)

anything other than that is just as I said---regarding my thoughts
on the "evolution" of speaking about or ADVERTISING IN TITLES
terminology regarding "cards" and what's on them...

VINTAGE FIGURE MINT ON CARD is not only totally legit---it makes perfect sense

[megoat]

Your argument is absurd, Huedell. Like others have stated, MOC has always meant mint figure in original packaging. Period. Like Dumbldor said, any other definition is just nonsense.

I suppose someone could staple a mint figure to a playing card and advertise it as MINT ON CARD and technically they wouldn't be telling a lie. And while we're at how about MINT IN BOX? Well just shove a figure in a plain cardboard box. VOILA! You have a MIB action figure. I'm kinda diggin' this.......

[huedell]

Your argument is absurd, Huedell. Like others have stated, MOC has always meant mint figure in original packaging. Period. Like Dumbldor said, any other definition is just nonsense.

I suppose someone could staple a mint figure to a playing card and advertise it as MINT ON CARD and technically they wouldn't be telling a lie. And while we're at how about MINT IN BOX? Well just shove a figure in a plain cardboard box. VOILA! You have a MIB action figure. I'm kinda diggin' this.......

Nah---you're making a mockery of what I'm merely alluding to
--so of course it's gonna seem absurd

Here it is--- for like the fourth time in this thread:

MOC is really misleading agreed (especially in the technical sense)

VINTAGE FIGURE MINT ON CARD is misleading to a point---
it swings both ways and is actually fine advertising in my eyes

[megoat]

Nah---you're making a mockery of what I'm merely alluding to
--so of course it's gonna seem absurd

Here it is--- for like the fourth time in this thread:

MOC is really misleading agreed (especially in the technical sense)

VINTAGE FIGURE MINT ON CARD is misleading to a point---
it swings both ways and is actually fine advertising in my eyes


Seriously, you make no sense.

[huedell]

Seriously, you make no sense.

And if a VINTAGE FIGURE MINT ON CARD meaning "a vintage figure that is
mint on not just any given card but a quality reproduction" makes no sense
to you when a seller talks about it that way---well, I can't help you further

[megoat]

You seem to have a keen ability to make long winded statements that make no sense. I'm trying to follow you, but seriously, I have no idea what kind of point you are trying to make. Why should MOC have any other definition than the one it has ALWAYS had? Are you now creating your own terminology (VFMOC)? I really am trying to follow you.

[huedell]

You seem to have a keen ability to make long winded statements that make no sense. I'm trying to follow you, but seriously, I have no idea what kind of point you are trying to make. Why should MOC have any other definition than the one it has ALWAYS had? Are you now creating your own terminology (VFMOC)? I really am trying to follow you.

My "keen ability to make long winded statements that make no sense"
has a lot to do with that I simply don't agree with some issues
that are discussed here...and that some people here have a "keen ability
to narrowly hone in on phrases that rub them the wrong way" without
considering that there's a bigger context to the phrases I'm discussing

I can tell by your insistence to focus on the "Why should MOC have any
other definition than the one it has ALWAYS had?" aspect of the thread
discussion (when I never said that regarding the plain abbreviation "MOC"),
and not considering that there are different ways of
typing "mint on card"...defining it... placing it in the context of an
auction... placing in the syntax of a sentence ...etc...that we'll never see
eye to eye over the Net

All I can reccomend is to re-read my posts---but, yeah, that's probably not
helpful advice :)

[dumbldor]

MOC is the abbreviation for 'Mint on Card' - they are one and the same. To try to differentiate between them is completely absurd, but considering the source, it's not that surprising.

[megoat]

MOC is the abbreviation for 'Mint on Card' - they are one and the same.

Of course they are, Dan. But just wait, I'm sure we will get a very convoluted and difficult to follow reason as to why they are different. Just wait.

[huedell]

MOC is the abbreviation for 'Mint on Card' - they are one and the same. To try to differentiate between them is completely absurd, but considering the source, it's not that surprising.

Well, considering the source, its not surprising you're missing my point---
and here's something not so "convoluted" for you megoat: "you're
missing my point too"

I don't like the fact that you guys are saying that I'm rewriting the definition
for the abbreviation "MOC" & getting all snarky about it but you're so set on
it---so what can I do?

It's already been stated this is too complicated for me to explain on the Net
if you haven't gotten it from my posts already...I hit a brick wall...so I
consider this discussion over...

but if you want to keep making it out like I'm saying the abbreviation "MOC"
means something other than what you're saying---- go ahead.

[saucerful]

when the passion flows, there's gotta be somethin' good in the conversation.

i'm left thinking about the MORC abbreviation, and wondering if those quality repro cards (which are quite damned good, having just obtained one from albert penello and enjoying it!) deserve to be recognized in the title as a subset of buying mint figures. MOOC for original cards or MIOB for original box, and MORC and MIRB for the rest.

perhaps others have come up with this in the past......me no know

bryan

[Meule]

when the passion flows, there's gotta be somethin' good in the conversation.

i'm left thinking about the MORC abbreviation, and wondering if those quality repro cards (which are quite damned good, having just obtained one from albert penello and enjoying it!) deserve to be recognized in the title as a subset of buying mint figures. MOOC for original cards or MIOB for original box, and MORC and MIRB for the rest.

perhaps others have come up with this in the past......me no know

bryan

MOC and MIB already have the same meaning as MOOC and MIOB, so there's no need to create new abbreviations for those, but it wouldn't be a bad idea start useing MORC and MIRB, that would put this whole discussion to rest

[dumbldor]

Well, considering the source, its not surprising you're missing my point---
and here's something not so "convoluted" for you megoat: "you're
missing my point too"

I don't like the fact that you guys are saying that I'm rewriting the definition
for the abbreviation "MOC" & getting all snarky about it but you're so set on
it---so what can I do?

It's already been stated this is too complicated for me to explain on the Net
if you haven't gotten it from my posts already...I hit a brick wall...so I
consider this discussion over...

but if you want to keep making it out like I'm saying the abbreviation "MOC"
means something other than what you're saying---- go ahead.

Nobody missed your point, it is just idiotic. What don't you get about that? :juggleyes_y:

[rcbats1]

MOC and MIB already have the same meaning as MOOC and MIOB, so there's no need to create new abbreviations for those, but it wouldn't be a bad idea start useing MORC and MIRB, that would put this whole discussion to rest

I think what Meule is saying above /is/ huedell's point. In this day and age with eBay,repro parts and figures and repro cards, MOC has taken on a new meaning. MOC, to me, these days mean "mint" whatever on some kind of card until I read the description or ask a question. Be it repro, original or proto-type. How many times have any of you had to ask "is the card original"?..."has it been opened"?
I hear what everyone is saying that MOC means MINT on Mint Card,un-opened. I've always believed this for a long time...but really,personally, in my own opinion I think that MOC has a new and diverse meaning. I also dont believe thinking this way is trying to be criminal or idiotic in any way. It's just where we are.

M.

[Meule]

I think what Meule is saying above /is/ huedell's point. In this day and age with eBay,repro parts and figures and repro cards, MOC has taken on a new meaning. MOC, to me, these days mean "mint" whatever on some kind of card until I read the description or ask a question. Be it repro, original or proto-type. How many times have any of you had to ask "is the card original"?..."has it been opened"?
I hear what everyone is saying that MOC means MINT on Mint Card,un-opened. I've always believed this for a long time...but really,personally, in my own opinion I think that MOC has a new and diverse meaning. I also dont believe thinking this way is trying to be criminal or idiotic in any way. It's just where we are.

M.

I wasn't saying MOC has taken on a new meaning, quite the contrary. To me MOC still means a mint figure on an original card.
I will admit there's a (r)evolution going tho. But it isn't the meaning of MOC that's evolving, it's the quality of the work by the repro artists. It's getting harder and harder (sometimes even impossible) to spot a repro card from an original. This makes it necessary to create new abbreviations (like MORC and MIRB), but that doesn't mean the meaning of the old abbreviations has suddenly changed

[ABMAC]

Greg is a great guy, but his auction titles are deliberately misleading. We know why he uses misleading titles, and we know that they work, but that doesn't make it right for him to use them.

MOC means Mint on Original Card, in perfect condition just as it came from the factory. It isn't necessary to mention the condition of the card or the individual accessories unless they differ significantly from the condition of the figure. That some unscrupulous sellers think that the abbreviation MOC leaves a loophole that they can exploit is not sufficient reason to revise the abbreviation. The abbreviation is fine; the unscrupulous sellers need to be revised. I suggest that they be finely chopped and fed to starving rats for starters.

[dumbldor]

I think that the entire vintage toy collecting community, of which Mego collectors and repro Mego collectors are just a very small part, should change the meaning of Mint on Card and MOC to suit the needs and whim of a small handful of repro Mego collectors. Yeah, I think that will fly. I suggest you start with the Star Wars collector community. Let's see how far you get.

[batmanmc]

mint on card or mint in box to me means mint figure on original card or mint figure in riginal box.

[megoat]

That some unscrupulous sellers think that the abbreviation MOC leaves a loophole that they can exploit is not sufficient reason to revise the abbreviation. The abbreviation is fine; the unscrupulous sellers need to be revised.

Yes, i concur. Although, as i've always understood it, MOC doesn't necessarily mean that the CARD is mint but the figure. As far as i'm concerned a C5 card could still be legitimately refered to as MOC as long as the figure is still sealed to the card in it's pristine unplayed with state.


I suggest you start with the Star Wars collector community. Let's see how far you get.

For sure. I'm not up on my Star Wars scene so much, but aren't repro cards generally refered to as "Re-cards" are something to that effect? No reputable Star Wars dealer would ever refer to a repro carded SW figure as MOC.....

[MegoGeek]

There is no debate here. The terms are not subjective.

Anybody that refers to repro carded figures as "MOC" or loose figures with repro parts as "original" is trying to be deceptive....Period.

[huedell]

Nobody missed your point, it is just idiotic. What don't you get about that? :juggleyes_y:


Okay..I'll take the bait...you called me "idiotic" after I realized I never was going to be able to
get you to UNDERSTAND what I mean (it seems some
people here do anyway)

So what I "don't get" is why you're pressing the issue and baiting me

Just because you're frustrasted is no need to keep trying to bring me down too

Heck, I was trying to SOLVE our misunderstanding---while you're hellbent on
making it worse

[starsky]

benbarb must have a factory in their house because i dont know how they keeps coming up with all these megos!!!

[MegoGeek]

Okay..I'll take the bait...you called me "idiotic" after I realized I never was going to be able to
get you to UNDERSTAND what I mean (it seems some
people here do anyway)

So what I "don't get" is why you're pressing the issue and baiting me

Just because you're frustrasted is no need to keep trying to bring me down too

Heck, I was trying to SOLVE our misunderstanding---while you're hellbent on
making it worse

Dan's point is that there doesn't need to be a bunch of new terminology created to accommodate a small handful of sellers.

We already have a term. The term is "Repro".

The problem isn't a lack of terminology, the problem is sellers who choose not to disclose repro pieces in their auction titles.

[huedell]

I know Mego Geek...I know. Geesh.

[ramsey37]

Hue,
I mean this in the nicest possible way: state your piece, then walk away. It'll save you alot of grief. ;)
George

[dumbldor]

Huedell, I don't believe I called you idiotic anywhere. I called the idea idiotic, not you.

[huedell]

Huedell, I don't believe I called you idiotic anywhere. I called the idea idiotic, not you.

In the "shades of gray" that's real charcoal, man :)

It's all good :)

(for now---hee-hee!)

[dumbldor]

The most brilliant person on Earth has some stinker ideas sometimes, and the most mentally challenged has a good one once in awhile.

[huedell]

The most brilliant person on Earth has some stinker ideas sometimes, and the most mentally challenged has a good one once in awhile.

I sincerely got that----nice way to "shed some light on the gray"
that discerns your differentiation on "idiot/idiotic idea" for me sharp enough
(and I may steal it from ya in the future) thanks for the effort put in

I take back what I said regarding that (painting you as calling me
an "idiot" in that specific post, I mean)

[megozilla13]

Michael Jackson is dead.

[Wee67]

Michael Jackson is dead.

I knew there had to be a punch line to this joke :smiley1:

[Sowth]

Michael Jackson is dead.

:smiley1:

Will

[megocrazy]

benbarb must have a factory in their house because i dont know how they keeps coming up with all these megos!!!

Delorean, 88 mph, flux capacitor, it's all starting to come together.

[Wildstar]

I have been following this thread for awhile, and will only make 1 comment~ Also I don't want to say to much, as I do want to be the the eternal bad guy in this thread~

Benbarb has great E-bay feedback, and ultimatley gives good photos and descriptions~ So he is a reputable seller~ I have no direct problem with him~

But so many times, I see his titles and I have to go in and read his description to the tee, because alot of times the title and the doll being sold are not the same thing~ So to me that is misleading. (Anyone else think that if you didn't personally like the guy. I personally like the guy, but I still feel this way)

Benbarb's strength is dressing up Played with C-7 to C-8 megos with repro parts and photoing them well. And for the most part that's all they really are, played with megos photoed nicely~ As far as the money he gets, GOOD FOR HIM~ His feedback is Great~

But on Sunday nights I generally stay away from his listings, becuase I Know for the most part it's off condition Dolls~ Every now and then he has a few nice dolls~
The thing I find humorous in his descriptions is this "Mint Repro cape with no fray" 100% MINT REPRO BOW with no defects" To me that is laughable for many and obvious reasons~

When I look at bgamerooms auctions, I know what is being sold~~
When I look at dumbldors auctions, I know what is being sold~~
When I look at megogeeks auctions, I know what is being sold~~
When I look at Palitoys auctions, I know what is being sold~~
When I look at Superdupersuperstores auctions, I know what is being sold~~ (Cheap Plug)

Again, I want to say Benbarb has a great reputation with great e-bay feedback, I just disagree with the sales tatics~

As fas as MOC goes: And this is gospel~ The card can be in any condition as long as it is factory sealed with no chance of the figure being removed. MOC is pretty self explanatory~

But that doesn't mean MOC always holds true~
A figure with a broken leg is not MOC~
Mint means no defects, and Megos are subject to plenty of defects while still being sealed on thier card~

The grading of the card allows for many othe terms~ MOMC, MONMC, ETC.
If the card is opened and the figure has been removed it's Mint with Card~
A Repro card does not contistuite as Mint with anything, besides a nice figure with somebody's ink filled cardboard~

Wildstar~~

[saucerful]

Well put! . . . and now I'm going to look at superduperduperstores auctions and see what's good. :-)
Bryan

[dumbldor]

Wildstar~~,

Well summarized.

I like Greg Thomas very much, but I can agree with what you write about his auctions, both positive and negative.

Greg, if you have read this thread (how could you possibly not have?), take it as a compliment... and some friendly criticism. If you want to change anything about your auctions, fine. If you do not want to, fine. I don't think anyone is going to lynch you either way.

[EMCE Hammer]

I would only add to Wildstar's post that Greg rehabs those c-7 figures before he repros them up and returns them to the wild. They may be c-7 when he gets them, but they're all shiny and pretty when he's done. It's not just an addition of repro parts and camera tricks - he cleans them, restyles the hair, etc. I really like Greg too - enjoyed meeting him at Mego Meet a couple years ago. But I skip his auctions altogether because I don't want to pay a premium for results I could more or less get myself.

[Wildstar]

Thanks Dan~
No matter what I say about you, once in awhile your alright~ Just alright though~
Just having a little fun that's all~

ALSO TO ADD~ Greg does do a great job cleaning up Megos~

Also Also, I want to add this: Every now and then I have thrown the word lazy out there to describe collector's. Well I will say this about BenBARB, HE is a hustler(Good Way). I 've seen some of the items he has bought, and I positive he has put together a great collection, by buy and selling megos on E-bay~ Alot of people that complain about prices could learn from him~ Every once in awhile the thought of reproing up some used Megos has crossed my mind, because of the money he makes~ I would be lying if I said I wasn't jealous~

Wildstar~~

[starsky]

very well put guys. couldnt have said it better myself.