Who here is an APES fan? [Archive]

apes3978

Aug 31, '07, 12:11 PM

I'm wondering who considers themselves to be an APES fan?

I am not talking about the folks who might say "Oh yeah, I used to like that as a kid", or "Sure, I seen the movies after school", etc. Also excluding the folks who say the highly over-quoted "Take your stinking paws of me you damn dirty ape" line, which basically "everyone" knows.

I am not thinking that owning all of the MEGO APES would make you one, as there are many who own "every" MEGO just to be completists. I also do not think that just because you hoard MEGOs that it makes you one either, as there are people in all areas of collecting that become "obsessed" for awhile, then lose interest after some time.

What I'm getting at is who here would consider themselves at, or near, the level of the die-hard TREK fans for example. (No, not the stereo-typed geek in the basement dressed as a Vulcan). People who are very hard-core, not obsessed though.

toys2cool

Aug 31, '07, 12:14 PM

I like the Ape stuff,but no where near as much as Star trek or Star Wars

YANOULI

Aug 31, '07, 3:49 PM

Although i've seen all the films and Tv series many times, i always make a point of watching them when they're on TV. Does that count?

Even now i'm still impressed with the Ape make-up.

jwyblejr

Aug 31, '07, 5:39 PM

I like ther series well enough but not so much as to label myself a true fan. Haven't seen the entire tv series or cartoon.

The Bat

Aug 31, '07, 5:41 PM

The first POTA...is one of My favorite Movie's of ALL TIME! I liked all of them...but the first one stands alone.:yes:

huedell

Aug 31, '07, 5:42 PM

I'm not a fan at all---but I feel for the real hardcore ape fan(s)
who is yearning to reply in this thread but won't do so
due to the fact that he/she is too afraid that they may be "overqualified"
(as quantified by the "obsessed geek/Vulcan" limit that apes3978 pointed
out as over-the-top in the first post) :)

C'mon apes3978---- let the uber-nerds post too! :)

kingcarm

Aug 31, '07, 7:00 PM

I am a hardcore Ape fan. I loved the movies and tv series as a kid and still do. I even have a few t-shirts. I remember seeing the trailer on TV when I was a kid and being shocked when I saw the scene with the apes on horses. I also remember begging my mother to see the movies. My first MEGO was Cornelius and I remember wondering "why is he wearing leotards". :googly:

HardyGirl

Aug 31, '07, 8:39 PM

Well let's see....

I have all the movies, and watch them when they're on TV anyway.
I recorded the series when the Sci-Fi channel aired them.
I recorded Behind the POTA w/ Roddy (RIP) McDowall.
I have the book & record sets from the movies and the series.
I have the cereal bowl and cup (and use them).
I got a kid I used to babysit into the apes (and even gave him and Astronaut and a video tape I made for his birthday).
I have all of the figures, (but not all the soldiers), and the villiage and prison chair.
I sponsored the Burke card for MM.

Does that qualify?

I will admit, I am a Trekkie and will probably always love that more than the apes, but I was always be an apes fan.:ape:

kingcarm

Aug 31, '07, 8:55 PM

HardyGirl

Aug 31, '07, 9:33 PM

HardyGirl....you rule!!! We'll have to swap ape stories some time :wink:

:grin: :cool_y: :grin:

batmanmc

Aug 31, '07, 10:25 PM

after the wgsh the apes are and will always be my favorite megos. i wathc the movies but i wouldnt consider myself a die hard ape fan.

steelcouch

Aug 31, '07, 11:01 PM

Have all the movies on Dvd and all the apes loose. Love the line because of all the variations of the suits give me a challenge. And they are pretty affordable.

monkey tennis

Sep 1, '07, 12:11 AM

I've got::ape:
Carded Zira, Burke Zaius figures
Loose Cornelius & Urko
got some POTA's comics
I've got the movies (but not the ape head version)
I've got some books
and one apes colouring book
I have the soundtrack (love it)
a full set of the trading cards
I'm hoping that I can get my paws on some Museum Cards
Kubrick toys
I've got the Go Ape poster
My favorite movie is Beneath The Planet Of The Apes (Mutant Humans)
I'd love a Lawgiver Statue in my garden
and POTA costume
I haven't watched all of the TV Series
I've never seen the cartoon (not sure I'd want to)
I even bought the Tim Burton remake on DVD (hated it though)
I've No recent toys, No Mugs, No T-Shirts
I wouldn't find an ape attractive enough to kiss.
But you could say I was a fan.

HardyGirl

Sep 1, '07, 1:15 AM

Did I forget to mention:

My POTA gorilla costume and Corny mask

My POTA comics

and my coloring book? DUH!

apes3978

Sep 3, '07, 7:08 PM

Did I forget to mention:

My POTA gorilla costume and Corny mask

My POTA comics

and my coloring book? DUH!

While your collection may be nice and all, I guess I should have included/added that the amount of ALL merchandise one may own doesn't neccessarily make them a die-hard APES fan...

I should have clarified that, and now hopefully I did...

HardyGirl

Sep 3, '07, 10:31 PM

No problem. I already said that I was a Trekkie. And while I'm not a die-hard fan, I am enough of a fan to have all that stuff. That's good enough for me.:ape:

mego73

Sep 3, '07, 10:56 PM

Well, I can say I love Apes as part of my overall love of most everything of 70's Kid pop culture.

As a kid, Ape movies on TV were events and I always watched them. Never knew about the TV show and caught the cartoon by mistake around the end of it's run.

I did want Ape toys but I didn't have much lobbying power for toys and choose toys from my first love, Star Trek most of the time. Also, I only got to see toys in department stores and drug stores (never really got to go to toy stores) and they never seemed to have that much in the way of Apes at least when I looked.

Getting the collecting Megos in the 80's fired my up for Apes as I was able to find the Mego toys and rejoice in getting stuff that slipped thorugh my fingers as a child.

In the 80's I recorded the movies, the TV movies (compilations of two TV show episodes) and I got up at 7:30 am Saturday morning to tape the animated Apes cartoons off of WPIX without the commercials.

One of the sets I got when I got my DVD player was the Planet Of The Apes movie set and when they did an upgrade years later I bought that too (in the Ape head).

I'm short of being a hard core fan (collecting ape stuff doesn't go much beyond Megos and the videos) but I am more than a fair weather fan as well.

SlipperyLilSuckers

Sep 3, '07, 10:59 PM

I love the apes, and have all of them plus some other stuff. When I was a kid
I had a great apes mask, the mouth moved when I talked...haven't seen one since...but yeah, I know I don't count as a diehard fan...I'll get over it ;)

GlobalObserver

Sep 3, '07, 11:50 PM

I've been an obsessive POTA fan since the early 70's. The '68 film is my favorite movie of all time.

apes3978

Sep 5, '07, 1:13 AM

I've been an obsessive POTA fan since the early 70's. The '68 film is my favorite movie of all time.

See, now that's the right idea!
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Although i've seen all the films and Tv series many times, i always make a point of watching them when they're on TV. Does that count?

Even now i'm still impressed with the Ape make-up.

The fact that you went ahead and made a MEDICOM Lucius head available in MEGO scale counts a lot too... (Not to mention the others as well...)

toysrus

Sep 5, '07, 1:40 AM

I'm a big fan, but not anything similiar to a Trekkie. I own all the Pota movies on DVD, also behind the POTA, the toons & the TV series. I have some of the ape megos, but due to a lack of funds i do not own many i'm searching for.

I did not like the POTA remake at all. I hope that we will get a cool old school style apes film in our life time. I also wish they would do the apes re-issues like they did for star trek.

I'm still not happy that they never gave us a finale to the TV series, the show just sort of stopped.

kresge1

Sep 5, '07, 6:18 AM

I dabble in the ape stuff,but i am definitely a Super hero guy

lepage

Sep 5, '07, 6:48 AM

Well lets put it this way,

I have well over 1000+ films in my library but if my wife told me that I had to get rid of all of them but a few. The Planet of the apes films, tv series, and cartoons would be staying!
__________________________________________

oh and I dont live in a basement but.......

http://apemania.com/gman.htm

3rd row, last one on the right.

apes3978

Sep 5, '07, 8:02 PM

I'm still not happy that they never gave us a finale to the TV series, the show just sort of stopped.

While I agree with you that it would have been cool if there had been some type of closure for the TV series, in all fairness, I don't think any show that was cancelled half-way thru it's first (and only) season ever had any type of "final episode"...

toysrus

Sep 5, '07, 11:20 PM

I'm always keeping my fingers crossed that maybe Fox will wake up and see that the POTA means tons of Moola $$$ and gives us either a new movie, but not a sequel to the crappy re-make or i would love to see a cool sci-Fi channel TV series.

And talking about the original not having a finale , I would like to see someone make up a finale to that show in comic book format or a cartoon.

While I agree with you that it would have been cool if there had been some type of closure for the TV series, in all fairness, I don't think any show that was cancelled half-way thru it's first (and only) season ever had any type of "final episode"...

apes3978

Sep 6, '07, 12:22 AM

And talking about the original not having a finale , I would like to see someone make up a finale to that show in comic book format or a cartoon.

Actually, there is one sort of finale done in a comic, drawn by excellent APES artist Neil Foster and written by Michael Whitty... It's titled "GOING HOME"... If nothing else, the artwork will blow you away (and ABMAC can vouche for me on that one). If you join up with the potaDG, they will be able to tell you all about it:

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/

There was also one other fan created comic involving a finale for the TV series, but it's name escapes me... The art is top-notch, but the story leaves a lot to be desired... He tried to involve too many elements from the films and TV series and really ended up with a mangled mess that made no real sense... I am sure that it can still be seen at the TV series websight:

http://potatv.kassidyrae.com/

toysrus

Sep 6, '07, 2:19 AM

Was that comic " Going home " printed like a comic book? Or is it an online thing? Audio?

Thanks!

Actually, there is one sort of finale done in a comic, drawn by excellent APES artist Neil Foster and written by Michael Whitty... It's titled "GOING HOME"... If nothing else, the artwork will blow you away (and ABMAC can vouche for me on that one). If you join up with the potaDG, they will be able to tell you all about it:

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/

There was also one other fan created comic involving a finale for the TV series, but it's name escapes me... The art is top-notch, but the story leaves a lot to be desired... He tried to involve too many elements from the films and TV series and really ended up with a mangled mess that made no real sense... I am sure that it can still be seen at the TV series websight:

http://potatv.kassidyrae.com/

apes3978

Sep 6, '07, 8:27 PM

Was that comic " Going home " printed like a comic book? Or is it an online thing? Audio?

Thanks!

Yes, I believe that Whitty had some of them printed up... You should email him or Neil to get all of the information on how to obtain a copy..

GeneralApeGuy

Sep 10, '07, 11:13 PM

I remember my brother and I watched POTA movies at Theaters and on the TV series in the 70's. We love to watched them every nights, never stop watched. My mother told us go to bed! and we ignored her and keep watched till it's over then we went back to bed. :grin:

GlobalObserver

Sep 11, '07, 2:30 PM

I'm also not afraid to admit that one of my first big crushes was on Zira.

When Taylor kisses her near the end of the film, to be honest...I got a tad bit jealous. :heart::ape::heart:

johnpauljones

Oct 22, '07, 10:40 PM

POTA is one of my absolute favorites. One of the finest sci fi franchises, which also happens to have the worst continuity of any franchise. (changing years: 3978 in the first movie 3955 in the second which takes place afterward, Why was Brent sent to find Taylor after they lost contact? They should lose contact if the mission was to prove that time travelled faster close to light than on earth)
Whoops! Almost got carried away. My first MEGO was the Soldier Ape. I remember specifically one time when I got in trouble and had to stay in at recess in 2nd grade, thinking over and over "Planet of the Apes is more important than school."
Favorite sci fi franchise EVER!

toysrus

Oct 23, '07, 1:53 AM

Its too bad they screwed up the time thing in the Ape movies. And even though i still enjoy watching " Battle for the POTA" I would have liked to see a much bigger budget, but they did what they could!

But with the name alone i still cant believe there isnt a sci-fi show based on the POTA. Or even a new Cartoon! Or straight to DVD toons? It has to sell! I did ot enjoy the 2001 POTA, they should have went with the old style ape look and continued with Ceasar after battle!

POTA is one of my absolute favorites. One of the finest sci fi franchises, which also happens to have the worst continuity of any franchise. (changing years: 3978 in the first movie 3955 in the second which takes place afterward, Why was Brent sent to find Taylor after they lost contact? They should lose contact if the mission was to prove that time travelled faster close to light than on earth)
Whoops! Almost got carried away. My first MEGO was the Soldier Ape. I remember specifically one time when I got in trouble and had to stay in at recess in 2nd grade, thinking over and over "Planet of the Apes is more important than school."
Favorite sci fi franchise EVER!

censy

Oct 23, '07, 10:04 AM

I consider myself a huge apes fan.

The first film is my favorite movie all time. I have the films and tv series on dvd. Boy, are there some silly tv episodes : ) I have a side-show Cornelius proudly displayed on my desk, next to my computer. I saw, but despise the remake by Tim Burton. I read and enjoyed the original novel by Pierre Boulle. Also, I live by the motto, ape must never kill ape.

Lastly, its the ONLY complete mego line I own.

Chris

kingcarm

Oct 23, '07, 3:27 PM

Lastly, its the ONLY complete mego line I own.

Chris

I too am as big an Ape fan as they come and I also have the entire set....carded of course. :grin:

monkey tennis

Oct 23, '07, 6:31 PM

I am NOT an Apes fan...apparently
:monkey_y:

johnpauljones

Oct 25, '07, 12:23 AM

Its too bad they screwed up the time thing in the Ape movies. And even though i still enjoy watching " Battle for the POTA" I would have liked to see a much bigger budget, but they did what they could!

But with the name alone i still cant believe there isnt a sci-fi show based on the POTA. Or even a new Cartoon! Or straight to DVD toons? It has to sell! I did ot enjoy the 2001 POTA, they should have went with the old style ape look and continued with Ceasar after battle!

According to the "Behind the POA" documentary, the formula for sequel budgets then was opposite what it is today. They expected "Beneath" to make half the money the first one did so they allotted half the amount of money that they did for the first one, as opposed to nowdays where they figure that they need to spend more on sequels. They continued with the same type of cuts throughout the 5 movies.
Return (the cartoon series) was really low budget. There were usually cutaways when someone was speaking. There are more still frames in that cartoon than any I have seen. Still, in spite of all that, Apes is my favorite franchise. I don't think any ape movie will be as effective now because POTA at its best is an even mix of action and social commentary, and every social issue that works in "ape" format has been addressed. That said, a pure action apes movie needs a true action\blockbuster director. Spielberg, Emmerich, Bryan Singer, or Ridley Scott. It might be good then.

apes3978

Oct 25, '07, 1:37 AM

According to the "Behind the POA" documentary, the formula for sequel budgets then was opposite what it is today. They expected "Beneath" to make half the money the first one did so they allotted half the amount of money that they did for the first one, as opposed to nowdays where they figure that they need to spend more on sequels. They continued with the same type of cuts throughout the 5 movies.

Not entirely true... Ted Post said on there that the BENEATH budget was cut due to a lot of nervous "money people" at FOX... They were slashing the budgets on all films, not just BENEATH, because a bunch of "big budget" films failed to live up to their expectations.

As far as the rest of the sequels, they were lower budgeted more in the way you mentioned above, and that was basically said by Frank Capra Jr. when talking about ESCAPE (I think), he said something like "Because # 2 didn't quite do the business that #1 did, then it would follow that # 3 would probably not do the business that # 2 did..." etc...

toysrus

Oct 25, '07, 2:06 AM

But do you guys think we will evntually see another POTA movie? Series? sci-Fi mini series, Cartoon? I sure hope we do in our time.

censy

Oct 25, '07, 9:58 AM

I too am as big an Ape fan as they come and I also have the entire set....carded of course. :grin:

Damn, I am jealous. Mine are all loose, but I plan to buy them carded one day.

Apes question to all...is the animated series worth getting? I know the animation is a lttle weak and I have resisted getting it so far. Do you actually enjoy watching the episodes now?

Thanks!

Chris

ABMAC

Oct 25, '07, 11:13 AM

Apes question to all...is the animated series worth getting? I know the animation is a lttle weak and I have resisted getting it so far. Do you actually enjoy watching the episodes now?

The cartoon's pacing is slow. <music cue> Painfully <music cue> slow.

The stories are often dumb; they haphazardly mix and mangle elements from Planet, Beneath, and the TV series; the animation is wooden; and the main villain (inexplicably named "Urko") sounds like Fred Flintstone.

But hey, it's official Apes product, and it's worth watching just to hear "I'm Going Humanoid Over You" again. I like to watch it, but only if there are no distractions.

palitoy

Oct 25, '07, 11:35 AM

the main villain (inexplicably named "Urko") sounds like Fred Flintstone.

Fake Fred Flinstone, it's not Allan Reed doing the voice it's (Canadian!) Henry Corden.

I find the show charming in it's attempt to revise the Ape legend and tell the story in it's own way. I'm curious as to why it's done.

It *is* slowly paced, I can't deny it but my five year old absolutely loves it and requests it often. There aren't too many Ape fans in his demographic....

ABMAC

Oct 25, '07, 12:49 PM

The cartoon presents some things that were conspicuously missing from the movies and the live-action series:
Judy, the female astronaut, survives the landing and is generally treated as an equal by her male companions.
The degenerate humans (called humanoids in the cartoon) are shown to be more than dumb animals.
Non-humanoid mutant lifeforms are explored beyond the banana/orange oper hybrid.
It's made clear that Ape technology is largely copied from Human artifacts.
The gorillas' position in the Ape hierarchy is clearly defined.

All of these make it a thought-provoking series, even though it's obviously aimed at kids.

The three novels based on the cartoon were aimed at adults, and they're pretty good, also.

censy

Oct 25, '07, 3:22 PM

Thanks for sharing your opinions guys. The dvds are reasonably priced, so I think I'll pick it up at some point. I watched it on saturday mornings when I was little, so I'm sure it will bring back some memories, if nothing else.

Chris

JonnyO

Oct 25, '07, 3:33 PM

I've been watching the apes since the Tv series.The cartoon also.I still believe it to be the most adult oriented cartoon of it's time.Even more than the Trek cartoon which was out about the same time.Before that I remember the movies being on TV and watching them all.I have all the Mego's except for Zira and the Astronaut.I have viewmaster reels,Mix'N Molds,parachutists,dart guns,DVD's,Costumes,Multiple Toymakers sets and figures.If it's on the tube,I'm watching it.All classic apes are for me.Tim Burton?No thank you.:ape:

mego73

Oct 25, '07, 5:05 PM

Give the cartoon a try, I've always liked it, ackknowledging all the shortcomings discussed here.

Bill

Oct 25, '07, 6:27 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/CodeBoy/DSCN0800.jpg

ABMAC

Oct 25, '07, 6:37 PM

Sweet! If I ever get a tattoo, it'll be an ape.

You should flip the picture horizontally so it looks correct.

HardyGirl

Oct 29, '07, 1:48 AM

Damn, I am jealous. Mine are all loose, but I plan to buy them carded one day.

Apes question to all...is the animated series worth getting? I know the animation is a lttle weak and I have resisted getting it so far. Do you actually enjoy watching the episodes now?

Thanks!

Chris

I used to catch parts of eps when this aired on the Sci-Fi Channel (at 4am!), and decided I wanted to see more, so I bought a video of the first few eps, and I hated it. Probably b/c it was more like Pierre Boulle's concept and less like the movies or TV show. I actually did like the animation, very vintage comic-book like.

BTW...if anyone wants my tape of the cartoons, they can have it, free of charge.

apes3978

Nov 1, '07, 12:35 PM

I used to catch parts of eps when this aired on the Sci-Fi Channel (at 4am!), and decided I wanted to see more, so I bought a video of the first few eps, and I hated it. Probably b/c it was more like Pierre Boulle's concept and less like the movies or TV show. I actually did like the animation, very vintage comic-book like.

Actually, the first movie is more like Boulle's book in that humans are animals (albeit dressed in rags due to censorship issues in 1968). As Ant pointed out, in the RETURN series, the "humanoids" are semi-articulate, which is something I don't like... I can't get past Nova's "Ahoya" gibberish. That does get annoying... I'll only let their semi-articulation slide if they're trying to say that the "humanoids" hadn't totally devolved yet :yeah:

The RETURN series is like the Boulle book only in that the apes have technology, but the series does seem to take it's cue more from PLANET and BENEATH.

I like most of the storyline that the RETURN series set up, but I do not care for the way it was executed. Anything having to do with flying lizards, giant spiders, and that stupid Ice Ape should all have been eliminated. I would have preferred no Mutants either, but if they had to have them, they should have stuck more with the BENEATH style mutants and not those lasers shooting from their eyes "Underdwellers". Truthfully, I would have preferred that they would have stuck with the "horse and buggy" society from PLANET, but there's no changing any of that now...

What I think might have been even better would have been if they continued the TV series in animated form. Even if they wouldn't have been as lucky as the STAR TREK cartoon where most everyone reprised their roles, I think it would have been cool to have a continuation of the TV series. They could have had the fugitives end up in places and situations that would not have been possible on the regular TV show due to limited budget. For instance POWER records did that story called "VOLCANO", and a story like that would have worked perfectly in an animated show. (Though I think it would have been even better as "live action", but I'd dread seeing the stock footage of an exploding volcano cut into the rest of the film, I'm sure it would have been extrememly obvious.)