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GaryPlaysWithDolls
Jan 29, '10, 8:53 PM
So this is my though process:

Superman doesn't have to be buff to wield the kind of strength he does. His muscle fibers would be like steel cable. Batman, on the other hand, would have to be pretty buff to wield the kind of strength he does. So, BATMAN IS THE BUFFEST.

but...

Superman is a pretty big guy and even though he doesn't have to be to be really strong, he does fill out a leotard, where a severe muscle bulk wouldn't serve Batman all that much, as he is more about skill and fighting technique that just brute force. So, SUPERMAN IS THE BUFFEST.

Thoughts?

P.S: I used "buff" alot. Ungh.

Werewolf
Jan 29, '10, 9:18 PM
I hate it when artists draw Batman as some hulked out vein popping steriod induced nightmare. Batman is like a martial artist mixed with a gymnast. He needs to be agile looking not hulked out and bloated. He shouldn't be any bigger than what Neal Adams drew him. Batman should look like an olympic gymnast not a giant grotesque steriod freak that looks like he is about to burst.

TrueDave
Jan 30, '10, 1:46 AM
Neither. Superman has powers. Batman couldnt be an acrobat if he was as big as Lou Ferrigno. Beside Batmans fights smarter not harder.

Spiderman shouldnt be. ( again powers) Iron man no, Green Lantern No, Thor No( God)

I guess the only one I can think of would be Captain America because of the Super Steroids. " A Walking example of better living through drug use" the Avengers mechanic called him once.

Punisher? Yeah.

WOlverine?

I dont know. If Logan spent six months on his couch watching TV, drinking beer and eating pizza would his healing factor fix that?

samurainoir
Jan 30, '10, 2:14 AM
I think of Superman as more "Barrel Chested" than Batman.

I always thought Curt Swan had the proper proportions.
http://supermanarabic.com/superman.jpg

Byrne's seemed to bulky.
http://www.supermantv.net/articles/gallery/johnbyrne.jpg

Aparo's Batman looks about right to me for a guy swinging around the city and sword fighting with Ras Al Ghul.
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Batman-bw-Aparo.jpg

As much as I dig Jim Lee, I think his Batman should be leaner. Nightwing is spot on... acrobat/gymnast proportions.
http://www.bnp.gob.pe/portalbnp/images/stories/Noticias/Diciembre2008/np252/batmannightwing.jpg

thunderbolt
Jan 30, '10, 3:47 AM
Jim Lee and Tim Sale draw Bats way to big. Dave Mazuchelli got Bats right and so did Paul Pope in the build department.

Hector
Jan 30, '10, 4:58 AM
Both Supes and Bats should have athletic bodies...not roided out monsters...leave that look to the Hulk.

Meule
Jan 30, '10, 5:27 AM
I hate it when artists draw Batman as some hulked out vein popping steriod induced nightmare. Batman is like a martial artist mixed with a gymnast. He needs to be agile looking not hulked out and bloated. He shouldn't be any bigger than what Neal Adams drew him. Batman should look like and olympic gymnast not a giant grotesque steriod freak that looks like he is about to burst.

Exactly

madmarva
Jan 30, '10, 1:36 PM
While not as tall, I'd say Batman would be built more like a professional basketball player — graceful yet powerful. Guys don't have to be bulky to be strong.

Superman would have more mass, though. He would make an average size guy feel small rather than average.

BlackKnight
Jan 30, '10, 1:38 PM
http://supermanarabic.com/superman.jpg


Boy ..., DC Direct sure Missed the Sculpt Likeness on that 1 ... :googly:

toys2cool
Jan 30, '10, 2:08 PM
can supes even become bigger?

ctc
Jan 30, '10, 4:48 PM
>Superman would have more mass, though. He would make an average size guy feel small rather than average.

Maybe not. He gets his power from his alien physiology. It'd be possible for him to be as strong without being built. Maybe he got big from exercising, working hard on the farm, etc.... but even then; would that cause enough stress for him to develop at all?

Don C.

kingdom warrior
Jan 30, '10, 5:19 PM
I have the same Philosophy as Alex Ross has with his Superman. He should be muscled but NOT look like a Body builder. Otherwise Clark has a lot of explaining :grin:

Batman too Lean muscled and Agile none of this roided look.......

The Toyroom
Jan 30, '10, 6:57 PM
http://supermanarabic.com/superman.jpg


Boy ..., DC Direct sure Missed the Sculpt Likeness on that 1 ... :googly:

No that's later Swan Supes pictured...the DC Direct Showcase figure ( I think that's the one you're talking about) is more of the 60s Swan Superman look.
And I think the above picture may have been inked by Dave Hunt? I don't think it's Murphy Anderson. That can make a difference too.

txteach
Jan 30, '10, 7:18 PM
Kinda weird reading all of these comments about male bodies.

Toy Talk
Jan 30, '10, 7:59 PM
Kinda weird reading all of these comments about male bodies.
It's making me feel all weird inside...:no:

LadyZod
Jan 30, '10, 8:53 PM
When comparing Superhero bodies, I like to compare them to life models...

Let's compare to the real world's tights wearing community: Wrestlers.

Superman would have a John Cena body. Muscular, but not body builder chiseled. Big and perfect for exchanging punches.

Batman would have more of a Randy Orton body. Again, muscular, but much smaller and built for quick attacks.

Green Arrow would be a Chris Jericho. Athletic enough for movement, but no real need to be built like a tank when you're using a bow and arrow.

Wonder Woman is a Beth Phoenix
PowerGirl is a Chyna (bulkier)

Aquaman would be a John Morrison

etc, etc, etc....

Bizarro Amy
Jan 30, '10, 9:13 PM
Kinda weird reading all of these comments about male bodies.

It's pretty tame, compared to the comments I've read around here about female bodies.

While I can't help but picture Supes a little bulkier than Batman, I think they should both have somewhat realistic proportions(a relative term in comics). Both have secret identies that would be much more obvious if their muscles were too obviously bulging. Of the two, Bruce Wayne could almost get away with it, because he's rich and can theoretically afford long days at the gym with a trainer. Maybe Clark can draw attention away from his body due to his awkwardness(if he still does that - I don't really read modern Superman comics). After all, if the people of Metropolis don't notice Supes behind the glasses, maybe they wouldn't recognize the muscles under his work clothes.

Earth 2 Chris
Jan 30, '10, 9:18 PM
Christian Bale is actually built the way Batman should be. Very much the Adams/Aparo/Garcia Lopez type lean, muscular build. Superman should be built a bit larger, more barrel-chested, broader shoulders, taller. By the majority of Superman II and all of III, Chris Reeve was built just about right. Maybe a little bulkier, but not much.

Tom Welling is actually built pretty good for Supes. Cut, but not body-builder big.

Chris

Thor
Feb 1, '10, 1:10 AM
I would think that due to his alien physic Superman would be more buff. Batman would not be far behind though.

Hector
Feb 1, '10, 1:58 AM
Superman would have a John Cena body. Muscular, but not body builder chiseled. Big and perfect for exchanging punches.

Batman would have more of a Randy Orton body. Again, muscular, but much smaller and built for quick attacks.



But Randy Orton is taller than John Cena...

http://ak.static.dailymotion.com/dyn/preview/320x240/8081161.jpg

Superman should be taller than Batman.

:grin:

I think John Cena fits Captain America better...and Randy Orton as the Sub-Mariner.

Come to think on it...Randy Orton could play just about everybody, Batman, Superman, Sub-Mariner, Silver Surfer, Captain America, etc... :grin:

Hector
Feb 1, '10, 2:02 AM
When comparing Superhero bodies, I like to compare them to life models...

Let's compare to the real world's tights wearing community: Wrestlers.

Superman would have a John Cena body. Muscular, but not body builder chiseled. Big and perfect for exchanging punches.

Batman would have more of a Randy Orton body. Again, muscular, but much smaller and built for quick attacks.

Green Arrow would be a Chris Jericho. Athletic enough for movement, but no real need to be built like a tank when you're using a bow and arrow.

Wonder Woman is a Beth Phoenix
PowerGirl is a Chyna (bulkier)

Aquaman would be a John Morrison

etc, etc, etc....

I like your wrestler/superhero comparisons though...pretty good.

How about Ray Mysterio or Evan Bourne as Spider-Man?

Triple H as Thor?

:grin:

Bizarro Amy
Feb 1, '10, 6:25 AM
I don't really want to see any pro wrestlers playing the big superheroes. :yuk:

Mego Milk
Feb 1, '10, 1:37 PM
BIG SHOW Juggernaut!

jds1911a1
Feb 2, '10, 8:56 AM
I have often thought about this becuse really there is no reason Clarks should "look" powerful based on his alien physiology he would need to lift a mountain to get a work out.

wrestlers are too bulky in my opinion since they build mass for show muscle boxers or even MMA guys have more usful muscle

for batman I always thought he should be built more like Bruce lee. He was tremendously powerful but lean muscle not mass. Martial artists tend to be leaner since the bulk muscle tends to reduce the speed. (aparo or adams)

Superman should be more like Ali or Foremen in their primes. (curet Swan or Alex toth)

jwyblejr
Feb 2, '10, 2:01 PM
If not Bruce Lee,Batman should have a look like Chuck Norris.