View Full Version : Will we ever see Mego Super hero re-issues?
toysrus
Aug 27, '07, 9:27 PM
Do you guys think we will ever see the entire line or even any of the mego super heroes made again? Like re-issues? Sort of like how Gi- joe came back? Or the mad monsters?
I know many say it will hurt the value of the old toys, but i wouldnt mind having a mint carded kid flash again!!!
kept back
Aug 27, '07, 9:40 PM
I don't see it ever happening. Someone like EMCE might consider making golden age heroes that are in the public domain, but as for the DC/Marvel properties, I can't see it ever happening.
txteach
Aug 27, '07, 10:37 PM
The licence would be out of their pricerange unfortunately.
Marvelmania
Aug 27, '07, 10:50 PM
Even if it were to happen I'd much rather see characters that weren't made but should have been, Green Lantern, Flash, Doc Doom, Red Skull and so on. Don't think it'll happen though.
The likelyhood is highly AGAINST seeing re-issues, especially of the Marvel / DC properties. Of course the Star Trek re-issues are a step in the right direction (an advancement of CTVT obtaining licensed figures a couple years ago), but it is a big leap to the WGSH line. Tarzan might be possible though.
Meule
Aug 28, '07, 4:20 AM
I wouldn't count on any superheroes, but CTVT already reissued the Mad Monsters, they even released a second series of monsters :wink_y:
The Bat
Aug 28, '07, 8:45 AM
As much as I would LOVE to see the WGSH's reissued(it would be a dream come true)...I don't ever see it happening.:cry:
Now...POTA's on the other Hand...I could see EMCE going after that sometime in the Future. Why not? Nobody is doing anything with it right now.:please_y:
mikeoz
Aug 28, '07, 10:37 AM
As much as I would LOVE to see the WGSH's reissued(it would be a dream come true)...I don't ever see it happening.:cry:
Now...POTA's on the other Hand...I could see EMCE going after that sometime in the Future. Why not? Nobody is doing anything with it right now.:please_y:
I agree. It wouldn't be economically feasible to go after the rights to WGSH because they are still popular (i.e. there are still WGSH toys being produced by the major toy manufacturers). POTA is definitely a possibility, though.
AAAAA
Aug 28, '07, 1:06 PM
Not going to happen, DC marvel will not share profit(EXAMPLE: relunach of Captian Action. where PM almost had the deal in hand with DC.
Earth 2 Chris
Aug 28, '07, 1:17 PM
DC Direct was apparently considering doing repros of their Megos, but opted to do the 13" line instead.
I was going to say that Mattel and Hasbro's holding of the master license for DC and Marvel would never allow such a thing...BUT right now Art Asylum/Diamond are making both DC and Marvel mini-mates, and the Tonner doll company has both Spider-Man and DC dolls being released at the same time. And in the last few years, Mattel has released both DC and Marvel Barbies in very similar packaging.
So if the repro Star Trek line went over like gangbusters, it's not outside the realm of reason to think Diamond may be able to broker something with DC and Marvel. Obviously they already have a good relationship with both.
Chris
The Bat
Aug 28, '07, 6:20 PM
it is far from impossible. But in order to be a fast hit and survive the discount rack, old popular standards like Spidey, Supes and Batman will have to be made first.
TOTALLY AGREE!! In fact...a couple of Year's ago, Marty Abrams pictched this Idea to the Toy Companie's of a limited release(possibly DC Direct?) of a Couple of the CORE Character's(Batman being #1). They didn't go for it back then...but as Bob Dylan said..."The times, they are a changing".:grin:
kept back
Aug 28, '07, 8:28 PM
[QUOTE=Bat Hero;34788]I had no idea that the Golden Age Heroes were public domain...
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I may be mistaken, but I believe some characters like the Lev Gleason Daredevil, Timely's Angel, the Green Laama, 3-D Man, etc...are public domain characters. Not the Alan Scott GL or Jay Garrick Flash or any JSA/Invaders types. Those are registered DC or Marvel properties.
batmanmc
Aug 28, '07, 9:15 PM
TOTALLY AGREE!! In fact...a couple of Year's ago, Marty Abrams pictched this Idea to the Toy Companie's of a limited release(possibly DC Direct?) of a Couple of the CORE Character's(Batman being #1). They didn't go for it back then...but as Bob Dylan said..."The times, they are a changing".:grin:
i would like to see them made but would agree batman superman and spiderman would hav3e to be first to give the line a chacne then maybe the new titans . this would bring in some new audiences. mike
Spyweb007
Aug 28, '07, 10:20 PM
DC and Marvel characters aren't the only superheroes around. There many other comic companies and smaller publishers which would be less expensive to license from, and it would be cool to see mego superheroes again even if they weren't from the big two.
Digital Webbing presents is an anthology comic that's going on three or four years of publishing now, plenty of characters for a line of superheroes there.
rikitikitavi
Aug 28, '07, 11:38 PM
I think it is very possible. It would be billed as a nostalgic line of the first WGSH figures made. It would not interfere with sales of modern examples and would make money within its own genre of collectible.
toys2cool
Aug 28, '07, 11:52 PM
yup don't see this ever happening,but one could always wish :grin:
jds1911a1
Aug 29, '07, 7:33 AM
it's always POSSIBLE but very unlikely. our best chances would be DC direct for the DC characters since thier buisiness model is one that is amied at the collector market at a higher price point but thier current product is aimed at comic/m ovie accuracy in the larger scales. Even if they agreed to farm out part of the license to say CTVT or EMCE I think the licence fee would make the toy too expensensive for the casual buyer
csxernie
Aug 29, '07, 3:09 PM
i thank ctvt should have creature from the black lagoon in second series. it seems it fell a litte short.
Meule
Aug 29, '07, 3:31 PM
i thank ctvt should have creature from the black lagoon in second series. it seems it fell a litte short.
Maybe one day in a third series. I doubt it, but we can always hope
toysrus
Aug 29, '07, 7:06 PM
Do you think the same goes for the POTA Megos? Or do those have a chance at re-issue?
batmanmc
Aug 29, '07, 8:01 PM
i dont think there is enough of a fan base to remake the apes . but who knows . i didnt think trek would be remade but they are being done. mike
Bionic Joe
Aug 29, '07, 11:28 PM
The way i see it there are only three from the WGSH line that might have a small chance of being remade they are TARZAN/ CONAN/ JETT JUNGLE these are the only ones from the line not owned by DC and Marvel, maybe they could add a never made it figure of RED SONJA to give the line 4 figures
Hmmmm....
Y'know... I see the superheroes as almost inevitable. We've had a few attempts at an 8" Mego or mego-esque figure revival; and no doubt the Marvel/DC heroes are the plum toy.
BUT these attempts so far haven't stuck. (Although the new Trek figures look like a good go.) Still, they show that there's enough interest out there from the companies (no matter how small they are) and the fans. So I guess sooner or later SOMETHING will click. Generate some hype, make the big companies think there's an upswing, get a little influential buzz and voila!
These days a little hype goes a long way.
Don C.
VintageMike
Aug 30, '07, 8:44 PM
The way i see it there are only three from the WGSH line that might have a small chance of being remade they are TARZAN/ CONAN/ JETT JUNGLE these are the only ones from the line not owned by DC and Marvel, maybe they could add a never made it figure of RED SONJA to give the line 4 figures
Jet Jungle was actually already done by CTVT. I actually think it might happen if the Trek figures are successful enough but it will be anticlimactic as they will only do "big" characters like Supes & Batman. Basically characters where plenty of genuine Megos already exist.
kingdom warrior
Aug 30, '07, 9:39 PM
Anything is Possible..If the Star Trek figures do well and I mean really well you just never know. Marvel and DC are in business to make money.If the Sales of the Trek figures are beyond great you just never know.....But as always what helped Mego was their commercials that was part of their sale.We all wanted Megos because of them.
If you don't advertise to Children and their parents these toys won't sell well.Dc would benefit the most Because they had the Justice League toons... imagine if you had Mego like figures advertised in between them I guarantee those toys would sell.....
thunderbolt
Aug 31, '07, 3:47 AM
[QUOTE=Bat Hero;34788]I had no idea that the Golden Age Heroes were public domain...
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I may be mistaken, but I believe some characters like the Lev Gleason Daredevil, Timely's Angel, the Green Laama, 3-D Man, etc...are public domain characters. Not the Alan Scott GL or Jay Garrick Flash or any JSA/Invaders types. Those are registered DC or Marvel properties.
Not 3D Man, he's a 70's Marvel creation and still controlled by them. Kirby's Captain 3D is in public domain, tho. A tie in line with Alex Ross's new comic Super Powers (or whatever its going to be called) from Dynamite would be cool, and I bet Ross would go for it.
The Bat
Aug 31, '07, 6:48 AM
Even if the right's are Public Domain, to these "Obscure" old Character's...that doesn't mean making Them into Mego's is a good Idea. I simply don't think They would sell.:ugh_y: People want BATMAN, SUPERMAN, SPIDERMAN,etc...
These Other's...would just sit on the Shelve's.:no:
jwyblejr
Aug 31, '07, 11:38 AM
The way i see it there are only three from the WGSH line that might have a small chance of being remade they are TARZAN/ CONAN/ JETT JUNGLE these are the only ones from the line not owned by DC and Marvel, maybe they could add a never made it figure of RED SONJA to give the line 4 figures
Instead of Jet,they could go with someone like Doc Savage. Although Flatt's version didn't go over big,I'd like to see guys like The Phantom. Or Flash Gordon.
JDeRouen
Aug 31, '07, 11:45 AM
From a collector's standpoint, while I'd love to have factory-produced new heroes, I don't much see the need to recreate the old ones. For the most part, the entire WGSH line is readily available out there. If it would lead to new, never-before-made heroes, like hopefully Star Trek will do, then I'd be fine with that - but like Dane said, it would most likely be just the big, already-produced heroes like Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and The Hulk. And who needs that?
Joe
You know what folks, I have to go on the side of " You never know!"
I had thought I had read that someone had been working on a book about Megos and there was a shot that it might include a limited release figure. I don't know.
While Mattel and Hasbro have very lucrative toy deals you still see the big Guys Licenseing to Hallmark and others. I don't think anything is ever out of question. If Warner still had it's stores I would say that it was a real probability that you might have seen golden age or silver age renditions. That store was big on the nostalgia craze.
I would of course not want to see them reissued as they were. I would hope to see different versions and maybe a few they did not make originally.
I aslo agree whoheartedly with the few who said there are other hero and comic lines out there. Dark Horse and Top Cow are lines never produced and what comic company is running old characters like Green Hornet, Lone Ranger, Red Sonja and the like. If there's a market out there and these thing could be produced, shipped and marketed so that a profit is made......
To be honest, I would not at all be surprised to see DC Direct put out a limited issue Mego era figure or two of it's big 3 tardemarks. I mean with the internet and all the specialty stores and such out there a limited run would hit it's mark. I don't think they'd mass produce anything for the big toy chains however.
I am never really sure they do market control as much as they do saturation to get their mark all over the place. So for my two cents I think it all comes down to cost.
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Not going to happen, DC marvel will not share profit(EXAMPLE: relunach of Captian Action. where PM almost had the deal in hand with DC.
Ew !! do tell... Seriously was there talk that they almost licensed to Mantis to do Dc Figures? I had never heard this but please share the story I really am curious.
I kinda think C.A is a bad example of judging the sale of the 8" figures because all that I have read says that the original Ideal figures were unpopular and sold not so well ( my dad would argue vehemently) and that their failure really lead to the success of the 8" toys.
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Ew !! do tell... Seriously was there talk that they almost licensed to Mantis to do Dc Figures? I had never heard this but please share the story I really am curious.
I kinda think C.A is a bad example of judging the sale of the 8" figures because all that I have read says that the original Ideal figures were unpopular and sold not so well ( my dad would argue vehemently) and that their failure really lead to the success of the 8" toys.[/QUOTE]
what i understand it was going to be a 2 figure set ,batman and villian, and superman and Villian
sold threw the WB stores.
which villians I do not know.
and anyBody who can pull off a reintroduction it would be diamond comics.They Could "coax" DC in to doing it.
because they control the shipping network of getting comic/toy products to retailers.
there a lot of reasons why CA failed , Being sued twice by hasbro did not help.
The outfits were welldone but pricey.The regrind plastics for the accessories(becuse they hold the paint on better)ment many returns.
the lack of a villian at the onset was big mistake,but IDEAL resources was streached to the limit and could not do a villian at first.
remenber Ideal was 9 largest toy company at the time.
Capatain action face was plain ugly.
jds1911a1
Sep 4, '07, 8:45 PM
Do you think the same goes for the POTA Megos? Or do those have a chance at re-issue?
it depends if the recent movie license covers the classic series or not. if it doesn't then the chances are much higher but if it does unlikely as the producer has to cover the license fee for the stuff they make.
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remember that Captain action was a 60's toy (contemporary w original GIJOE) the 8' size became prevalent due to the oil shortage in the early 70's (even joe scales down to superjoe) as smaller toys need less oil to make plastic. as the 70's drew to a close oil was back and some 12' toys returned (kenner and mego both has successful 12" size figures) but even the 8" megos could not stand up to the 3 inch jugernaut of star wars so by the late 70's mego was reformatting away from 8" to 3 inch too. and 3 inc ruled toys for most of the 80's
Captain action was the same business model as gijoe,a base figure then sell clothes out the wazoo. Mego used this model with some sucess during AJ but realized if the only way to replace lost items was a new figure they could streamline the production line and get more bucks from us. every time we needed a new phaser for startrek to belt for batman we had to get another one. LJN used the same model as AJ for swat and emergency so they had to tie up more floor space/peg space with gear sets. we only had to buy new LJn figures when we broke them as even the boots were in gear sets. Great for kids but mego's way was smarter business.
The Bat
Sep 7, '07, 4:24 PM
Actually, we do! Best case, if it happened, would be Dr Mego bodies with better suits AND heads. Although most mego collectors already have the figures you mentioned, those "A List" characters would draw in new people(and kids), as well as open the door for characters mego never made.
Since the "A List" guys would bring in the bucks, new figures might follow.
I concur!!:wink:
huedell
Sep 7, '07, 9:54 PM
LEX LUTHOR, DR. DOOM, DR. OCTOPUS, FLASH, GREEN LANTERN, SILVER SURFER,
SPIDER WOMAN, RED SKULL, WOLVERINE, MAGNETO, STORM, DAREDEVIL, ELEKTRA,
MARTIAN MANHUNTER, SCARECROW, R'AS AL GUHL, PLASTIC MAN, ATOM, HAWKMAN,
HAWKGIRL, SANDMAN, PUNISHER, MANDARIN
the list goes on and on for "still popular today" characters from the DC and Marvel
companies that would make great MEGO replica styled (i.e. BRONZE AGE era costumed)
line additions
with the right things falling into place, I believe some of this might eventually happen--
as once the speed bump of investing in the startup occurs, the rest should fall into place
due to popularity of the characters and nostalgia combined. I mean, if Trek can
do it---so should DC and Marvel be able to---and possibly with even more success
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