will we ever see another POTA film?

[toysrus]

Does anybody think we will ever see another Planet of the apes film? Or a sci fi type series? With the POTA being so well known i cant see how they wont do it, the money they could make!!!

This time i hope its done right!

To this day i'm still mad they never did give us a finale to the tv series.

[ABMAC]

I wish I could unsee Burton's 2001 garbage. I'd rather have nothing than more of that.

[palitoy]

I think the "Burtonverse" was a one time deal, thankfully. The whole thing felt more like a cash grab than a new franchise.

[ABMAC]

It probably did well enough financially to justify a sequel, but I agree with you.

It used to bother me that the TV series never got a finale episode, but it doesn't anymore. Either they found a way to get home, or they spent the rest of their lives educating isolated apes and humans, or Urko finally caught them and killed them.

[batmanmc]

i doubt they would have another. the toy lines wouldn't be there if they did. the toys sat on clearance for a long time. mike

[palitoy]

It probably did well enough financially to justify a sequel, but I agree with you.

it was profitable but it seemed like the makers knew it wouldn't be easy to get money out of our wallets a second time. Add on to that that a sequel would likely be more expensive, I'm not surprised.

Today at the grocery store, a man was wearing a General Attar shirt, I had to think what it was for a minute. I don't feel it had much impact and is largely forgotten.


It used to bother me that the TV series never got a finale episode, but it doesn't anymore. Either they found a way to get home, or they spent the rest of their lives educating isolated apes and humans, or Urko finally caught them and killed them


If you want to go to those elderly Galen bumpers created for syndication, V & B went home somehow but I don't know if I trust elderly Galen......

[MIB41]

The remake didn't work because Tim Burton and the writers didn't respect the original material. They spent too much time making a parody of apes to humans and it came off as a bad joke rather than some kind of intended irony. Plus Mark Walhberg was just too Stallone-esque. He walked through every scene like he was "da man" and that came off cheesy. The original had Charleton Heston , better known in those days for Moses, getting his butt whooped and degraded. That was shocking to audiences and underscored the uncertainty and danger of the environment he was in. It will take time before another is made. The studio wants to make sure most people have forgotten this one! I LOVE the original movies and wouldn't mind it one bit if they went back to that original makeup. It's so iconic and still works today...in my humble opinion.

[ABMAC]

it was profitable but it seemed like the makers knew it wouldn't be easy to get money out of our wallets a second time. Add on to that that a sequel would likely be more expensive, I'm not surprised.

Today at the grocery store, a man was wearing a General Attar shirt, I had to think what it was for a minute. I don't feel it had much impact and is largely forgotten.

Most of the characters were little more than stereotypes, and none of them were likeable. The apes looked good (OK, the male apes looked good), but there was very little beneath the surface. The origin that they gave the apes prevented them from having any connection to current events, and kept me from wanting to know more about their culture. They answered all the questions we might have had, so it was a dead end.


If you want to go to those elderly Galen bumpers created for syndication, V & B went home somehow but I don't know if I trust elderly Galen......

It's cool to see McDowall in the makeup again, but I don't think his presence is enough to make anyone accept the bumpers as canon.

[MegoMonk]

I did kind of like the Burton film, but I really wish they would do a movie faithful to the original book.
There is also a POTA script written by Sam Hamm (who wrote the script for Burton's Batman) that was pretty good. I always wondered why burton did not use that script, since he had already worked with a Sam Hamm script for Batman.

[Megotu]

I keep hearing that Joel Schumacher is getting the green light for a new POTA movie...I think they have already given a script to Gilbert Gottfried...

[toys2cool]

I think without a doubt there will be another movie,this just seems like something they will re-make every 15-30 years for the rest of our lives :grin:

[Captain]

Personally, I would rather see a new tv series. One that tries to follow the pattern ...the "universe" set down by the original movies, and is faithfull to the look and feel of the pre-Burton franchise.


For those of you who want to see how the tv series may have ended, this site has a fan made comic that tells a pretty good tale...Does a decent job of tying the tv series into the films too...
http://potatv.kassidyrae.com/yesterday.html

[Boris71]

The remake didn't work because Tim Burton and the writers didn't respect the original material. They spent too much time making a parody of apes to humans and it came off as a bad joke rather than some kind of intended irony. Plus Mark Walhberg was just too Stallone-esque. He walked through every scene like he was "da man" and that came off cheesy. The original had Charleton Heston , better known in those days for Moses, getting his butt whooped and degraded. That was shocking to audiences and underscored the uncertainty and danger of the environment he was in. It will take time before another is made. The studio wants to make sure most people have forgotten this one! I LOVE the original movies and wouldn't mind it one bit if they went back to that original makeup. It's so iconic and still works today...in my humble opinion.

actually the film was much closer to the original piere boulle book than the original movie was and the ending was the same sting in the tail twist of the book

[ABMAC]

actually the film was much closer to the original piere boulle book than the original movie was and the ending was the same sting in the tail twist of the book

Apart from having his apes inhabit a planet that isn't Earth, how is Burton's movie more like the book? All of Burton's characters are obsessive and rather dim-witted, and his humans appear to be slightly more intelligent than his apes. Although Boulle's characters are stereotypes, they represent groups that we can understand and relate to.

As Boulle's apes rose to dominance, they triggered the decline of Man. Much of the book addresses the question of intelligence versus mimicry. The only observation that Burton's movie seems to make is "slavery is bad," which is hardly relevant these days.

Boulle's protagonist, the journalist Ullysse Mérou, returns to Earth with his new family only with the help of Zira and Cornelius. Leo Davidson, on the other hand, only has to wait around for his ride to show up. Both characters return to Earth to find apes in charge, but Boulle's book suggests that the Men of Earth degenerated for the same reasons as the Men of Soror. Burton's explanation for the rise of the apes on their planet doesn't make sense when applied to Earth, so tacking on an ending similar to Boulle's comes off looking more like a cheap gimmick than a thought-provoking twist.

[kingcarm]

I like Tim Burton and I like his work and although I found his take on POTA enjoyable, I thought it was weak and could've been better. The end of his movie did leave it open for a sequel.

[BubbleGumFink]

If another new POTA film were to look anything like the Burton movie, then I hope I never see it. I think the best hope for cool new Apes stuff would be quality fan films using original style make up and sets. Kind of an Apes version of Star Trek New Voyages (http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/)or Starship Exeter (http://www.starshipexeter.com/).

[kresge1]

I would not mind another POTA movie,but it would definitely have to be more in tune with the original.

[HardyGirl]

I wish I could unsee Burton's 2001 garbage. I'd rather have nothing than more of that.

Agreed. Even the 13 year old kid I took w/ me, (only b/c I got him into the ape movies) wasn't buying that load of trash. :no:

[The Bat]

Some Movie's just shouldn't be "re-made"(especially by Tim Burton!)...I'm quite content to watch the Original. Besides...Heston's a tough act to follow.

[Wee67]

Not only do I believe the film will be re-made, I think it can be re-made well.

Actually, I could see it going in two directions.

If enough time passes, I could see another director given the opportunity to make this story. If the director has enough cred, he/she might be able to really focus on a theme and succeed

BUT, WHAT IS MORE LIKELY... Burton tried (and failed) to have some sort of vision and control. Studios might blame the film not meeting financial expectations on a director having too much control. If a movie is made soon, I could see the studios really pushing to make a merchandise-friendly version. That would essentially hollow out the film and most likely leave us wanting.

[apes3978]

If a movie is made soon, I could see the studios really pushing to make a merchandise-friendly version. That would essentially hollow out the film and most likely leave us wanting.


You know, although you're right in that they'd probably want it to be "tie-in" (aka "merchandise") friendly, I'd like to see it NOT be that way. I just wish those idiots would see that not every film made today has to have cups at Burger King, video-games at GameStop, and toys everywhere else.

PLANET itself was not over merchandised (but most films weren't then either), and you know what, it was all the better for it. It wasn't until 1974 when the **** hit the fan and APES was stuck on everything. Yes, I am glad they made the Mego APES line, but am I glad they made most all of the other stuff: NO.

If they make a new APES film, and they decide they "need" to merchandise it, they had better start slow...A few T-shirts and maybe a set of well made figures... See if the film goes over and if it's a hit, THEN start making more stuff... That way the stuff will be in demand, not setting there rotting away on the shelves.

In any case, should they do a new APES film, it should be rated R so as not to become an over-hyped piece like pota2001. Also, by having it R, they may well be able to show humans as ANIMALS, they way they were intended (but the way they weren't shown in 1968 due to obvious reasons.)


Bring on the Boulle novel as a film.

[thunderbolt]

I got a quick question, that I hope can get answered to save me rewatching the Burton trainwreck again. Are the humans on the monkey planet supposed to be descended from the humans on the crashed space station?

[BubbleGumFink]

How about remaking movies that sucked the first time around rather than the ones that were great? Why doesn't Hollywood do that?

[apes3978]

How about remaking movies that sucked the first time around? Why doesn't Hollywood do that?

As Butthead would have said if asked the same question: "You can't polish a turd Beavis..."