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jackson5677
Dec 13, '09, 10:21 PM
Were ANY of the WGSH figures released with a Type 0 body....or was that body only used for Action Jackson ?

LonnieFisher
Dec 13, '09, 10:48 PM
I'm pretty sure batman and robin have come on the t0 body. not sure about superman and aquaman

generic
Dec 13, '09, 11:54 PM
I'm pretty sure batman and robin have come on the t0 body. not sure about superman and aquaman

Since they were released at the same time, wouldn't it be the same answer for all 4? :googly:

jwyblejr
Dec 14, '09, 1:13 AM
There was a Type 0 Aquaman on eBay earlier this year. Don't know how legit it was.

j_scott_o
Dec 14, '09, 11:55 AM
I asked this question a few weeks ago when I found a Batman on a Type 0 body. But, there is no way to verify if it is legit. Imho, for one of these oddball type of figures to be considered legit, I'd say it would have to be sealed in its original packaging. Otherwise, anyone could create a "legit" oddball figure.

HapSlash
Jan 7, '10, 11:42 AM
I'm pretty sure that the first series of figures was actually released on the type 0 bodies as well.

I myself have a T0 Superman and Aquaman, while not exactly in the best shape, but still... One of the things that I think is a good sign, is the fact that their heads are very soft and very pale compared to all my other megos. I've never come across any Megos who's heads were this pale.

clemso
Jan 7, '10, 12:00 PM
I'm pretty sure that the first series of figures was actually released on the type 0 bodies as well.

I myself have a T0 Superman and Aquaman, while not exactly in the best shape, but still... One of the things that I think is a good sign, is the fact that their heads are very soft and very pale compared to all my other megos. I've never come across any Megos who's heads were this pale.

Dear HapSlash, a pic always helps in descriptive situation such as this. I have never seen an original type zero Supes and Aquaman, this does not mean they were not made of course, so it would be good to see them and document it.

Clem

jackson5677
Jan 7, '10, 2:45 PM
please post pic's of type 0 WGSH's.........:drool_y:

HapSlash
Jan 8, '10, 4:07 AM
I didn't bother posting any pics because for starters, my nice camera died and i haven't yet been able to justify spending the money to replace it yet... so I'm left with this webcam. and secondly, these guys are not in the best shape.


http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3287/t0supes01.th.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/i/t0supes01.jpg/)

As you can see here, he has the slim boots and the nylon shorts, however the damage to the rest of his costume is a real disappointment.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4650/t0supes04.th.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/t0supes04.jpg/)

The head matches the flesh tone of the Type 0 body exactly, and is very soft compared to the rest of my Mego figures. almost as soft as some of the CTTV stuff. The paint ops, size, shape, details are all identical to my other Superman heads. He does have the long neck plug, and his original stringing is still nice and tight.

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9104/t0supes02b.th.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/t0supes02b.jpg/)

As you can see here there is a vast difference in the fleshtone between him and the standard Mego... even my other Type 1's are a bit darker, and firmer... although the pic I took didn't turn out.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6030/t0supes05.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/t0supes05.jpg/)

I can't say for definite proof that they were truly released, but this is enough to make me believe so.

Raydeen1
Jan 8, '10, 4:46 AM
There's pix from HUckabone's collection of T0 RM Robin. I'd say it's highly likely there were early figures released on T0 bodies. A running change much like when they switched to the T2 bodies.

clemso
Jan 8, '10, 6:20 AM
Thanks for taking the trouble to post the pics, its always good to see what your talking about. Isn't the flesh tone difference just a T1/T2 thing? or are you saying there is a difference between your T0 flesh tone and a later T1?

HapSlash
Jan 8, '10, 8:20 AM
I do have a number T1 Megos in my collection, although I'm not overly fond of the body style. Out of all of those, the heads do have a darker flesh tone than the heads on these Type 0 figures.

When I first found these, the thing that immediately jumped out at me, even before I picked them up, was how light the flesh tones on the heads were. It was that noticeable. I didn't even need to compare them to a T1 to tell that they were lighter than any of the ones I have. That's what made me take a closer look at them, and that's when I noticed that they were T0.

I picked them up in a big junker lot,...one that I probably paid too much for. Although along with those two, the lot did have a Peter Parker head and enough spare parts to fix my magnetic Robin... so maybe it wasn't a total loss.

Wee67
Jan 8, '10, 10:13 AM
I think the fact the costume makes it a bit more convincing that it is the original body. I was leaning against the origianl 4 being out on T0 bods, but those pics and what I'm reading here has changed my mind. Good stuff!

Neutron X
Jan 8, '10, 10:25 AM
Check out the Action Jackson comercial the figures are all type0 (0.5) It surprised me that first issue bodies were all type 0

Remco Monster
Jan 8, '10, 4:02 PM
It is stated in Ben's book that very few WGSH were issued on type 0 bodies, and that only the earliest editions of Superman, Batman, Robin and Aquaman were issued on type 0s. I always thought so, and assume it has been confirmed that type 0 heroes do exist.

clemso
Jan 8, '10, 6:41 PM
Tough one to prove though, type 0 bodies are easy to come by, therefore easy to swap, replace. If the earliest of the first 4 came on type 0 in Solid box, unless you know they came directly from the Mego factory, this theory cannot be proven or given as fact. Heck, its easier for me to buy a brand new AJ now for its T0 body than trying to buy a T1 body.

Neutron X
Jan 8, '10, 7:11 PM
The hardest to find body is type O.5 with rounded wrist joints.

hartley0
Jan 8, '10, 8:15 PM
Ok, this is curious – I've just received a small lot of Mego WGSHs, and amongst them is a Type 0 Aquaman.

Now, of course, there are at least two possibilities: (1) that someone swapped an Aquaman head and outfit onto the Type 0 body and (2) that it is legit. Is there any way to refute the working hypothesis that it is a legitimate Type 0 Aquaman? Should the head be softer and have a lighter flesh tone (as 'HapSlash' has noted)? I have legit T1 and T2 Aquamans that I can compare to.

The costume has a sewn on belt - don't have the doll with me at the moment so I can't say much more. I'll have a closer look at it later...

rchatlin
Jan 8, '10, 8:44 PM
Does the costume have stirrups?

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Tom L
Jan 8, '10, 9:30 PM
I really can not tell for sure from the pics, but it looks like the outfit does not have the sewn on sleeves. If that is the case, then this outfit is not the one that came with that body. The non sewn sleeve Superman outfit came after the solid boxes and should never have the T0 or T0.5 bodies.

While all four of the initial release heroes did come with T0 bodies, I am not so sure about the T0.5 bodies. I always thought this body was phased out before the WGSH's were introduced.

What makes this interesting and impossible to prove without a doubt is that we are assuming that bodies are phased in and phased out with pinpoint precision. It is always possible that a few T0 or T0.5 bodies were found somewhere in the plant or somewhere else long after they were phased out and used in production way out of the expected sequence. I am convinced this also happened with the circle suit Spidey found on T2 bodies.

Tom L.

jackson5677
Jan 9, '10, 1:19 AM
Thanks for answering my question...and posting pic's.....:wink_y:

clemso
Jan 9, '10, 3:35 PM
I really can not tell for sure from the pics, but it looks like the outfit does not have the sewn on sleeves. If that is the case, then this outfit is not the one that came with that body. The non sewn sleeve Superman outfit came after the solid boxes and should never have the T0 or T0.5 bodies.

While all four of the initial release heroes did come with T0 bodies, I am not so sure about the T0.5 bodies. I always thought this body was phased out before the WGSH's were introduced.

What makes this interesting and impossible to prove without a doubt is that we are assuming that bodies are phased in and phased out with pinpoint precision. It is always possible that a few T0 or T0.5 bodies were found somewhere in the plant or somewhere else long after they were phased out and used in production way out of the expected sequence. I am convinced this also happened with the circle suit Spidey found on T2 bodies.

Tom L.

Yes well spotted Tom, if it is indeed a non sewn on sleeve, then that would suggest that the Superman pictured could have just been made up of spare parts.

HapSlash
Jan 9, '10, 4:28 PM
When you have so many variations to production in such a short time span, I think it's impossible to say that this is the only way that X product was available...

It would be hard to say for certain if it directly means something or not. I have a Batman with cloth shorts and sewn sleeves, one with nylon shorts without the separate sleeves, and then another nylon one with a seam that goes down the outside of the shoulders, similar to how Spider-Man's costume is.

Of the two T0 figures I have, The Aquaman I own does have the separate sleeves, while the Superman does not. I can't say that I have proof that this is how these figures were originally released, but I can't say that I've seen anything that disproves it either.

Tom L
Jan 10, '10, 9:02 PM
Hapslash,

I totally agree with you. This rationale can basically be used for about 90% of all variations challenging any timeline. This is what makes all this fun.

Do you really have an 8" Batman outfit with sewn on sleeves? I have never seen one and thought for sure they did not exist. The only Batman outfit that had sewn sleeves was the 12" version. I would love to see a pic of that sewn on sleeve 8" Batman figure!!

Tom L.