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mitchedwards
Aug 21, '07, 1:22 PM
If tis ever happens I can predict a mysterious increase inthe amount of Megos purchased in the mid 70's

Time Travel Machine Outlined
LiveScience via Yahoo News ^ | Charles Q. Choi

A new concept for a time machine could possibly enable distant future generations to travel into the past, research now suggests.

Unlike past ideas for time machines, this new concept does not require exotic, theoretical forms of matter. Still, this new idea requires technology far more advanced than anything existing today, and major questions remain as to whether any time machine would ever prove stable enough to enable actual travel back in time.

Time machine researchers often investigate gravity, which essentially arises when matter bends space and time. Time travel research is based on bending space-time so far that time lines actually turn back on themselves to form a loop, technically known as a "closed time-like curve."

"We know that bending does happen all the time, but we want the bending to be strong enough and to take a special form where the lines of time make closed loops," said theoretical physicist Amos Ori at the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa. "We are trying to find out if it is possible to manipulate space-time to develop in such a way."

Many scientists are skeptical as to whether or not time travel is possible. For instance, time machines often are thought to need an exotic form of matter with so-called "negative energy density." Such exotic matter has bizarre properties, including moving in the opposite direction of normal matter when pushed. Such matter could theoretically exist, but if it did, it might be present only in quantities too small for the construction of a time machine.

Ori's latest research suggests time machines are possible without exotic matter, eliminating a barrier to time travel. His work begins with a donut-shaped hole enveloped within a sphere of normal matter.

"We're talking about these closed loops of time, and the simplest kind of closed loops are circles, which is why we have this ring-shaped hole," Ori explained.

Inside this donut-shaped vacuum, space-time could get bent upon itself using focused gravitational fields to form a closed time-like curve. To go back in time, a traveler would race around inside the donut, going further back into the past with each lap.

"The machine is space-time itself," Ori said. "If we were to create an area with a warp like this in space that would enable time lines to close on themselves, it might enable future generations to return to visit our time."

Ori emphasized one significant limitation of this time machine—"it can't be used to travel to a time before the time machine was constructed." His findings are detailed in the Aug. 3 issue of the journal Physical Review D.

A number of obstacles remain, however. The gravitational fields required to make such a closed time-like curve would have to be very strong, "on the order of what you might find close to a black hole," Ori told LiveScience. "We don't have any way of creating such strong gravitational fields today, and we certainly have no way of manipulating any such gravitational fields."

Even if time machines were technically feasible, the gravitational fields involved need to be manipulated in very specific, accurate ways, and Ori said his calculations suggest any time machine could be very unstable, meaning "the tiniest deviations might keep one from working. We need to explore the problem of stability of time machines further."

Theoretical physicist Ken Olum of Tufts University in Medford, Mass., who did not participate in this study, was skeptical concerning how this new model claimed to sidestep prior theoretical objections to time travel.

Still, Olum noted, "It's important if it's right—that there really is some kind of loophole. So this should be scrutinized very closely." The point of such work, he added, was to "expand the bounds of what's possible, what kind of things we can have and what kinds of things we cannot have."

batmanmc
Aug 21, '07, 9:53 PM
that would be cool then i could buy more megos and maybe fix a couple mistakes. mike

JDeRouen
Aug 22, '07, 9:03 AM
Time travel IS possible, on a sub-molecular level. Scientists have sent photons, I believe, back in time a millisecond or two. Will it ever be possible on a larger scale? Pardon the pun, but only time will tell.

palitoy
Aug 22, '07, 9:05 AM
http://www.ritilan.com/archives/images/2005/04/22/uncle-rico-time-machine.jpg

Just picked up this sweet puppy last week, you'll all stop laughing when I list my first set of Kresges!

Earth 2 Chris
Aug 22, '07, 9:10 AM
Just picked up this sweet puppy last week, you'll all stop laughing when I list my first set of Kresges!

That's heavy Doc!

Chris

mitchedwards
Aug 22, '07, 10:28 AM
When I posted the article, I wondered how long it would take for a Napoleon Dynamite refernce to be made :biggrin:

hobub
Aug 22, '07, 11:24 AM
Ori emphasized one significant limitation of this time machine—"it can't be used to travel to a time before the time machine was constructed." His findings are detailed in the Aug. 3 issue of the journal Physical Review D.


Unless this type of machine was built in the 70's, it will not get you there.

monkey tennis
Aug 22, '07, 12:03 PM
I'd go back to Whitechapel
1888
and find out who Jack The Ripper was and while I'm there I'd go see
The Elephant Man.

Comic Book Geek
Aug 22, '07, 12:57 PM
I'm sure you all have guessed it by now based on my keen intelect and my flawless good looks that I am from the future.

Customslab
Aug 22, '07, 2:28 PM
yea jack the ripper would be cool or to stop things you have done that was just to stupid ect.

batmanmc
Aug 22, '07, 3:21 PM
i would go back to see jfk and try to stop the sassasination. and to see dinosaurs. and maybe see the wqest when itw as the wild west.

kingdom warrior
Aug 22, '07, 6:11 PM
Send our Armed Forces to stop 9-11 from ever happening.....

Johnny
Aug 22, '07, 10:45 PM
I'd go back ten minutes and not click on this thread.









:grin: Just Kidding.

JDeRouen
Aug 22, '07, 11:05 PM
Well, really, almost any big thing you could do would result in either a paradox or the creation of an alternate time line. Buying Megos? Probably not. Killing Hitler? Definitely would cause some issues. :)

ABMAC
Aug 23, '07, 12:04 AM
Time travellers from the future DID go back to the seventies. Who did you think bought all the Romulans? That's why we couldn't find them when we were kids.

Oh, and they killed some guy who was worse than Hitler.