Web handed Aquaman in the 1978 catalogs?

[Flynne]

I'm sure other people have come across this before, but I was stunned to find this last night. I've heard (and perhaps incorrectly) that there was no proof of the legitmacy of the Web handed variant for Aquaman. But in reviewing my copy of the 1972-82 catalogs (like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220136153672&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:us (not my auction)) There I found the Web handed Aquaman standing right next to the Great White Shark, and thought of how right Berto was when he said he thought that's where the figure was from. Further, when I went back a page or so, I saw the same web-handed Aquaman listed in the WGSH assortment for 1978. Besides the web hands the figure also sports an unstitched vinyl belt and standard "A" sticker. I've had this catalog for years and the gloveless web-handed Mr. Curry has been hiding there in plain sight all this time.

However, I realize that these sorts of things sometimes aren't the genuine article, so I thought I might bring it up here. Are the catalogs listed in here genuine, or did someone just mock this up to look like a vintage Mego catalog?



Thanks,
Derek

[Hulk]

This catalog is a mock up that I believe John Bonavita created, although Webby was featured in the 1978 dealer catalog here...

http://www.megomuseum.com/catalog/1978/wgsh_003.shtml

[Flynne]

This catalog is a mock up that I believe John Bonavita created, although Webby was featured in the 1978 dealer catalog here...

http://www.megomuseum.com/catalog/1978/wgsh_003.shtml
Yup, that's the one! He's got the more flat and open webbed hands when you look at it close up. Also when you look at the 78 assortment page you can see the same figure displayed along with the rest of the figures so it's easy to see the difference in the shape of the hands. Here's a Museum link to the catalog pages:

http://megomuseum.com/catalog/1978/wgsh_index.shtml

I assuming that since these pages are in the Museum library that they are in fact the genuine article. Is that correct? I feel like such a dork for overlooking these all of this time. What is else in these catalogs that I have missed?

[ABMAC]

I mentioned the Great White Shark Aquaman's odd hands in my 8" figure database that I posted to the old mailing list ages ago. I may have even pointed the catalogue pictures out to Roberto after he found the figure.

[Flynne]

I mentioned the Great White Shark Aquaman's odd hands in my 8" figure database that I posted to the old mailing list ages ago. I may have even pointed the catalogue pictures out to Roberto after he found the figure.
I thought as much. Once I saw these pictures I figured that I was the only clueless Joe in town. Usually I consider myself a pretty observant guy, but sadly I missed these entirely. I only stumbled over them in the Bonavita catalog because I was looking for something else.

[captact]

Hi Flynne!!

If pics you need up close,.front, back etc. of this rare Mego Aquaman figure and his web hands,..just let me know,...I gott'em!!!!! These were only sold with the Great White Shark,..originally,..these web hands were for the Patrick Duffy action figure,..but once the Tv show received low ratings,.....the line was cancelled .....so into the fire went the heads of THE MAN FROM ATLANTIS!....so let me know on the pics!......

Ray Flores :ape:

[Meule]

Hi Flynne!!

If pics you need up close,.front, back etc. of this rare Mego Aquaman figure and his web hands,..just let me know,...I gott'em!!!!! These were only sold with the Great White Shark,..originally,..these web hands were for the Patrick Duffy action figure,..but once the Tv show received low ratings,.....the line was cancelled .....so into the fire went the heads of THE MAN FROM ATLANTIS!....so let me know on the pics!......

Ray Flores :ape:

You have a webhanded Aquaman? That would be the second known in existence, no? I'd love to see some pictures

[kresge1]

You have a webhanded Aquaman? That would be the second known in existence, no? I'd love to see some pictures


Yes,lets see some pictures.That is one of the coolest variations out there
Vinny

[Hulk]

Please post them here for all of us to see. It is something we all have been waiting to see (another one) for a long time. Having two out there gives us all hope.

Welcome Ray.

I like your theory about Man from Atlantis. Since it was definitely a property Mego was looking at, it makes sense that they would or could re-use the hands for the 1978 figures.

Where did you get your information on the Prototype Duffy heads, and is there anything besides the 1978 to back up your theory that the Web Handed Aquaman only came with the Great White Shark?

[txteach]

Pictures would be amazing. I, like Hulk would also like to know where you got your information. I haven't heard the Man from Atlantis theory before.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I think I remember hearing that theory from somewhere. It may just have been speculation since Man from Atlantis was known to have webbed fingers, and Aquaman never did. Having learned Mego go after the MFA rights, it does indeed make a good deal of sense. Heck, maybe the whole set was originally designed with MFA in mind, since I doubt they could have built a whole figure line around the character. A gift set would have done the trick to give it some real shelf pressence.

Please tell us more!

Chris

[cjefferys]

Yeah, I've heard the Man from Atlantis theory in the past too. I'd love to see more pics or info.

[Blue Meanie]

According to Marty (Abrams) and the late Neal Kublan the Webbed Hands may have been a running change for Aquaman (Sort of like the Silk Screens). At Mego Con the question was asked about Man From Atlantis and both Neal and Marty basically said it wasn't true because Mego didn't have the rights to do Man From Atlantis. It's on the Mego Con DVD...I think. I'd love to see a pic. Could it be that my Webby has a brother???

[Hulk]

At the dinner, when (I believe) Neal looked at the figure, and confirmed it was definitely factory made, he mentioned that the minimum run on something like that would have been 1000 pieces, even for an advanced machine tooled prototype, but he didn't specifically remember it, at least in the context of Aquaman.

Vinny Baiera, Mego Product Design manager, showed notes in his interview that indicating Mego was at least interested in Man from Atlantis as a property. At that stage of the game, perhaps Mego was taking their prototyping to a new level.

http://www.megomuseum.com/megolibrary/interviews/vinnybaiera/interview.html

I enjoyed Marty's reminiscing, but I didn't get the impression that he was the person to relate much in the way of product design or even prototype memories. He seemed more of "We did that line and it sold millions..." or "That line was a real bomb for us..." kinda guy.


Either way, I'd still love to know more about it and be able to hope against hope that 998 or more of them are still out there waiting to be found (by me).

[batmanmc]

would be cool if i can find one hidden. then we can be brothers. :grin::grin:

[captact]

Got the pics ready,..but dont know how to post them here,..any help?,..As for the MFA rights,...Mego as always,..rejected the offer and Kenner got the rights to the show, making Play-doh', Dip-dot, and other toys based on the show as advertised in the 1978 Kenner dealer catalog (Logo for the MFA is cool,..the same style logo as used for the SMDM, Bionic Woman, Fembot, Maskaton, Bionic Bigfoot, Oscar Goldman,..etc... ) Can have this scanned from mine if interested in seeing it....
...but Mego did get to make the hands and heads for overseas market,..but show was not as popular as expected,..so heads were trashed,.and since Mego did re-use their 8" bodies for others,..then why not use them on this test market Aquaman that will include a battery propelled Shark,..just as we planned for the MFA?? we can reuse the incert card and redesign the package?? This was discussed,...But Marty would only see what sells,.what doesnt....
Anyway,...any help on posting the pics i have, will be appreciated. Or you can send me a PM with your email address,..and I'll gladly send them over....Thanks!
Ray

[Hulk]

http://megomuseum.com/community/showthread.php?t=1993

A link with detailed instructions on posting pictures to the Museum Galleries.

Once you get that far, its pretty easy to post them here or a link to your gallery

[captact]

AquamanPalmout.jpg

[Meule]

Obviously something didn't work. You can email me the pics if you want and I'll post them for ya

[captact]

AquamanPalmout_951544.jpg
aquamanpalm1_462871.jpg
aquamanpalm2_356556.jpg

...Im still trying,..but nothing seems to be working out,..any other ideas on how to download these pics????

Ray :ape:
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Thanks Muele!! Send me your email or PM,..and thanks again!!!

Ray :ape:
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http://megomuseum.com/mmgallery/files/1/0/5/8/AquamanPalmout_218758_thumb.jpg (http://megomuseum.com/mmgallery/showimage.php?i=1523&c=3)

lets see if this works.......
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http://megomuseum.com/mmgallery/files/1/0/5/8/AquamanPalmout_thumb.jpg (http://megomuseum.com/mmgallery/showimage.php?i=1520&c=3)

..and heres the next,..I think if you click on the pic,..a bigger pic will pop up!

[Hulk]

Boy those pictures look familiar
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http://megomuseum.com/albums/BlueMeanie/AquaHandComparisonL.sized.jpg
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Next time you try to pass off someone else's pictures as your own, try to doctor them up a little, instead of uploading 5 year old pictures that were taken by the real owner of this figure, especially when that person has already posted in this thread.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/yellsub69/album?.dir=bb2e&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/yellsub69/my_photos
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I am guessing most of your insight came from this thread on the old Mego Museum forums, and possibly others like it. It's good to know that people do their research, but it'd be nice if you didn't try to pass off theories and guesses as fact...

http://www.megomuseum.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=6&topic=982

:wall:

[txteach]

Now that is lame! Why lie about such a thing? Did it make you feel important for a minute? I actually am imbarrassed for you.

[kresge1]

Unbelievable...Let me post the pictures that i lifted at the same site i lifted them from
:tool:

[Earth 2 Chris]

I can't believe he went through with posting them. I figured if it was a scam, we'd just never hear from him again once we asked for pics.

If this is how you get your jollies, then I weep for you.

Chris

[Marvelmania]

Kinda thought this would happen all along but was hoping for a different outcome. Sad.

[hobub]

!!!!!!!!!!!:terror:
:clap:

[cjefferys]

Weak sauce. :rolleyes:

[captact]

Friends,..there seems to be a big misunderstanding here,..I never mentioned I had the figure,..you can see in my past posts,..that what I did say was that i had were pics of this figure (sent to me by Mark Huckabone years ago), in case anyone never saw them upclose and would have liked to see them,..not that i had him (i wish),..and the info was from an article i read years ago in a newspaper type magazine called Collectors United. I never intended to trick anyone,..but to show you pics of the rare hands this figure had.

Ray:ape:

[toys2cool]

LOL! wow this sucks! I kinda had a feeling this would happen.
Dude just next time be a little more specific with what you mean,But honestly though.You don't think a site like this one would already have that info and pic?

[dumbldor]

Mark used to have 4 or 5 Aquaman vs. The Great White Shark sets (at least that many). He checked all of them in 2004 after he saw Roberto's figure at MegoCon. None of the Aquamans in the sets had the web hands.

[Blue Meanie]

I have to say, looking back at those pics I took, I'm a pretty good photographer :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

I don't think that Mark sent him the pics...I have a feeling that the pics were lifted from my old Yahoo Photos Page. I'd like to see the article that it is mentioned in though. Or the Man From Atlantis heads that were tossed in the fire :wink_y:

The search continues....

[JDeRouen]

Well truly, he never said he had the figure, only that he had pictures. Let's give the guy a break.

[Marvelmania]

Re-read your post Ray and I admit that I jumped the gun on this. My apologies. I guess a lot of us were wishing another one was found only giving us hope of finding more.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I also apologize. It seemed you were trying to pull a fast one on us.

I hope there are no hard feelings, and welcome to board.

Chris

[palitoy]

Actually, I can verify that the whole Man from Atlantis theory isn't valid. It's very logical to assume that Mego was working on this but Kenner scooped it before they could, I have proof and Kenner employees to verify this.

Kenner was working on a series of 3 3/4" action figures.

I am assuming that with the web hands, Mego was trying to steal some thunder from the then popular series of TV movies, but abandoned it. Roberto's figure, IMO, is a production sample of sorts.

[Hulk]

Friends,..there seems to be a big misunderstanding here,..I never mentioned I had the figure,..you can see in my past posts,..that what I did say was that i had were pics of this figure (sent to me by Mark Huckabone years ago), in case anyone never saw them upclose and would have liked to see them,..not that i had him (i wish),..and the info was from an article i read years ago in a newspaper type magazine called Collectors United. I never intended to trick anyone,..but to show you pics of the rare hands this figure had.

Ray:ape:

Thank you for clarifying that Ray. When you did not correct us when asked if you owned an example of this figure, it seemed to me that you were trying to pass that figure off as your own. My apologies. :peace:

[captact]

When this subject started,...there werent any pics,.and some members here hadnt seen it,...so I remembered i had three pics (not figure),..and offered them for those who thought it didnt exist,...besides,..I never intended in misguiding anyone to believe i had him,...and was quickly accused when only trying to help those with pics of a rare item, please next time before jumping to conclutions,..ask, please,..its my first time posting and trying to help,...but get critized for it??? Guess this is my last post,..but for those interested,....i still have the Kenner 1978 catalog to prove they bought the rights to the MFA show,...if anyone interested please send PM to send them ,.as Im not good at posting pics,..and THIS Dealer catalog I do have,..that even shows pics of the 1978 large Star Wars figure prototypes of the Dath Vader with cloth outfit and a customized Bionic Bigfoot as Chewbacca, 3" Sandpeople with cloth outfit and more.....

Thanks for the time, and thanks JDe Roen for being so friendly and understanding,..and sorry to all if my english mislead you in anyway,...was not my intention

Ray Flores :ape:

[batmanmc]

. you never know this site didnt have basa or jet jungle pics a year ago. if they he was trying to help good for him if not then its sad. mike

[Wee67]

Ray, I hope this is not your last post. This is a pretty good group who have been hit a few times lately. Maybe we're just a bit too defensive right now. I hope you stick around and add a new perspective to the community.

I'm curious what kind of distribution Mego had in Puerto Rico. Did you grow up there?

[Blue Meanie]

Friends,..there seems to be a big misunderstanding here,..I never mentioned I had the figure,..you can see in my past posts,..that what I did say was that i had were pics of this figure (sent to me by Mark Huckabone years ago), in case anyone never saw them upclose and would have liked to see them,..not that i had him (i wish),..and the info was from an article i read years ago in a newspaper type magazine called Collectors United. I never intended to trick anyone,..but to show you pics of the rare hands this figure had.

Ray:ape:


Ray, I think you should stay and find out more information and enjoy the vast knowledge here on the Museum. I'd still love to see the article that you mentioned above. Do you have a scan of the article??? I can tell you that the Man From Atlantis was definitely dispelled at the MegoCon back on '04. Stick around...this place has a lot to offer.

[Hulk]

Ray, it was just a misunderstanding. There is no reason to leave, and no one is asking you to. Several people were excited because it sounded like you had the actual figure. We misunderstood you. You did not correct anyone until after you posted the pictures. You misunderstood us. We all have hopefully learned a lesson. The MegoFact forum is a great source of information. We try to be careful to make things as clear as possible, and question bold statements, to help avoid confusion.

I apologize again to you. Lo siento, señor. :peace:

[kresge1]

Friends,..there seems to be a big misunderstanding here,..I never mentioned I had the figure,..you can see in my past posts,..that what I did say was that i had were pics of this figure (sent to me by Mark Huckabone years ago), in case anyone never saw them upclose and would have liked to see them,..not that i had him (i wish),..and the info was from an article i read years ago in a newspaper type magazine called Collectors United. I never intended to trick anyone,..but to show you pics of the rare hands this figure had.

Ray:ape:

I apologize as well
Sorry..
Vinny

[Meule]

Ray, no need to leave, it was all just a misunderstanding. Stick around and you'll find out what a great place and what great members we have here

[captact]

Okay,...thanks, Muele,...all i wanted was for those who never saw the hands up close with pics i had,..and pics of the Toy ads of the Man from Atlantis that i have from my 1978 Kenner Dealer mag,..depending on orders,.were the toys that were made/sold. Thanks for welcoming me back,..i never intended in misleading anyone,..was sincere in my words. and Yes, im in Puerto Rico,..Muele,..must remember me by Collector60,..as he helped me out with my Mego Museum Card set,..he was nice enough to send me all the way from Belgium his extra cards,..and finally completed my collection (Thanks MUELE!!!)
They also sold Mego's and Weird Mego dolls as well,..its strange that so far,..no one has ever mentioned the NINJA WARRIORS,..they were 8" Mego dolls sold on cards with a wide variety of weapons,..only two were in the set,..I talked about this to Mark Huckabone,..a friend of mine for years,..and told me to sell him all those i found here,..so i did and as always,..we worked out a trade....Anyone ever knew about them?? one is dressed in white with silver Lancelot material with cloth hood,..the other was black with silver Blk Knight material and black hood,...both heads are the same mold,..any one has them??/ Still hve the kenner ads if interested,..send PM with email.....sorry for long story,..have more concerning Titans, Hulks, Spidermans,....Bible action figures with Mego bodies, Dinah-Mite variations......

Thanks for wanting me back.....

Ray Flores :ape:

[cjefferys]

Glad to see you back, Ray. :)

Are the Ninja Warriors you are talking about like these ones?:

http://megolike.com/lht.htm

[ABMAC]

It sounds more like he means these, but I don't understand the Black Knight and Lancelot references.

http://megolike.com/images/talbot/card.jpg

[palitoy]

It sounds more like he means these, but I don't understand the Black Knight and Lancelot references.




Good guy in white vs Bad Guy in black is what I took from that.

[ABMAC]

Good guy in white vs Bad Guy in black is what I took from that.

OK, that's a logical interpretation. I hope we're both wrong and his figures are ones we haven't seen before, or are variations of known figures.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Are those ninjas the ones that use the LJN SWAT bodies and heads?

I used one for my Earth 2 Robin custom. I found it at a flea market for a buck.

Chris

[captact]

Thanks for the warm welcome!!!! What I mean by Lancelot and Blk Knight,..is refereing to the cloth used on the Mego Super Knights,..the one in the pic is similar to that we had here,..but the outfits were more elaborateand more tighter to the body, type 2,..hair was black on both, with oriental features, same head for both..they wore a sock type legging that was bellow the knee made of the material used for the knights, nicely elaborated,..outfit is tight and had an inner shirt,..mask seems almost the same,..card had a logo on the bottom with a carousel reading "SUAREZ TOY HOUSE" weapons are the same....wish i would have saved them or took pics,...I'll see if i can email mark and ask if he still has them,....

Ray
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CJEFFREYS,..thats the same figures!! although the card is not the one sold here,..and had more accessories besides the figure and not inside the blister card,..but those are the ones!..but only two were sold,..not three as shown in your link......GREAT PIC!!! another one for my pic collection!!! Thanks CJEFFREYS!

Ray :ape:

[cjefferys]

CJEFFREYS,..thats the same figures!! although the card is not the one sold here,..and had more accessories besides the figure and not inside the blister card,..but those are the ones!..but only two were sold,..not three as shown in your link......GREAT PIC!!! another one for my pic collection!!! Thanks CJEFFREYS!



No problem, glad to help. :)
That page mentions that the figures pictured were sold in Australia, so perhaps the ones you saw were the same figures in different US packaging and with more accessories?

[kresge1]

It sounds more like he means these, but I don't understand the Black Knight and Lancelot references.

http://megolike.com/images/talbot/card.jpg

Always wanted to pick these up.Can never find them..oh well