View Full Version : Has Doctor Who The New Series run its course ?
Mikey
Jun 30, '09, 4:19 PM
Just wondering,
Is Doctor Who The New series best days behind it ?
Has the show run its course ?
Some things that's making me think this might be possible.
1. The show is clearly getting worse as time goes by and even hard core New Series fans will admit this.
2. The partial hiatus is really killing the show, imo
Out of sight means out of mind... and Doctor who is REALLY out of mind lately (check the buzz on the net)
3. It seems the toy and collectible market is picking up on this too with less Dr Who items being made.
4. Letting everyone see the NEW Doctor in advance was a horrible mistake ... The best thing i've heard spoken about him is "i'll give him a chance" ... That's not very encouraging considering that's the BEST thing people have to say about him.
What do you think ?
Did the New Series best days already pass ?
Bionic Joe
Jun 30, '09, 5:37 PM
Look up in the sky, is it a bird? no is it a plane? no it's DR WHO jumping the shark :sarky: And the planed DR WHO 90120 will be the last jump of death
Mikey
Jun 30, '09, 5:42 PM
Doctor Who jumped the shark many times and it hasn't hurt the show.
A few examples
William Hartnell "regenerates"
Doctor Who is stranded on Earth FOR YEARS -- to keep the budget down
Tom Baker wears a 25 foot long scarf
Enter Davros
Colin Baker
Half Human
etc
Bionic Joe
Jun 30, '09, 6:34 PM
I liked the 25 foot scarf :yes: But i agree with you on the 3rd DR and 6th DR but the show carried on but this time not even Rose could save the show with the upcoming teenaged DR, Stick the fork in it's done
AUSSIE-Rebooted-AMM
Jun 30, '09, 6:48 PM
well I have been out of the loop for some time. . . .I only saw the 2nd season of Tennant. . .and I don;t think I even finished that season . . .so I am at least a year behind or more. . . .so what is happening? A teenage Doctor??????
Bionic Joe
Jun 30, '09, 6:56 PM
OK the new DR maynot really be a teenager but he looks and will proabley act like one, The teenage DR i mentioned will be the next DR replacing Tennant at the end of this season
AUSSIE-Rebooted-AMM
Jun 30, '09, 7:24 PM
Is this him?
http://www.thevine.com.au/resources/imgdetail/050109105019_new-doctor-who.jpg
Nostalgiabuff
Jun 30, '09, 8:06 PM
they should have paid Chris Ecclestion(spelling anyone?) whatever he wanted to stay on. He was great as the new doctor. Dave Tenant took a while to grow on me but after Rose left i stopped watching. The new companion was just too annoying. Besides, Rose is hot!!!
Nostalgiabuff
Jun 30, '09, 8:07 PM
ps....Tom Baker is still my favorite Doctor, followed only by Pertwee
Mikey
Jun 30, '09, 10:00 PM
Is this him?
http://www.thevine.com.au/resources/imgdetail/050109105019_new-doctor-who.jpg
He looks like Ashton Kutcher if his face was run over by a truck :smiley1:
New Doctor
Yeah
I'm ready. Bring it on
David's run was fantastic! i liked him from his first episode. i thought he was an improvement over a ery good Eccelston. is this skip year causing Doctor Who a problem .. YES. especially the fact they announce 4 specials and then 3 of them are at the end of the year instead of spacing them out every 3 months to keep it in peolpe's minds. does matt smith look to young and make me worried? slightly, but we have an ace in the hole... new show runner
STEPHEN MOFFET by far my favorite writer of the new series. if we can keep the repetative stories from RTD gone and since he is they should be as well. i mean 3 times you have a massive dalek army surrounding our heroes and 3 times you have a quick fix to the millions of daleks. just a waste. i'm looking forward to the last 4 specials and the new run in 2010.:happyk9:
Surfsup
Jul 1, '09, 2:55 AM
Yes, it has run it's course with the stale RTD at the helm; he was rapidly making the show a laughing stock. Now we have a man in charge who knows how to captivate viewers and an exciting actor in the role of the Doctor.
I reckon we're in for a real treat and possibly one of the best seasons ever.
EMCE Hammer
Jul 1, '09, 6:55 AM
I'm finding it more corny and less captivating. It took me a long time to get used to Tenant. I want Eccleston back:-(
I'm finding it more corny and less captivating. It took me a long time to get used to Tenant. I want Eccleston back:-(
I totally agree.
Corny is a great word to descibe a lot of Tennant's run.
I don't have all that much faith in the series getting better just because Moffet is taking over as producer.
Yea, I know he made a few outstanding episodes in the past, but then on the other hand i'm not sure if I want his kind producing on a regular bases.
Will every new episode from now on have a juvenile tag-line ? ... ie, "are you my mommy", "don't blink" and "hey, who turned out the light" etc.
Moffet seems to work best in moderation.
I really can imagine myself getting tired of the Moffet formula very quickly.
jds1911a1
Jul 1, '09, 12:40 PM
they should have paid Chris Ecclestion(spelling anyone?) whatever he wanted to stay on. He was great as the new doctor. Dave Tenant took a while to grow on me but after Rose left i stopped watching. The new companion was just too annoying. Besides, Rose is hot!!!
Eccleston didn't leave for money he wanted to get out and go back to feature acting
Gorn Captain
Jul 1, '09, 1:28 PM
Well, let's look on the up side:
RTD was definitely no longer an asset to the show (especially his last stories), and Moffat is moving in.
Improvement, is what I say....
aquatroy
Jul 1, '09, 1:34 PM
I have reservations about the new guy. Why does each consecutive Doctor need to get younger? I was hoping for an older Doctor. Someone old enough so that we don't get all the stupid sexual tension. Btw, I think it would be cool to see Patrick Stewart take a turn at the roll. And, why does the new Doctor look like Frankenstien's Monster? Sure all of the Doctor's have had a quirkiness to them, but that dude is downright homely.
Oh well. It's Doctor Who and I'm in.
jds1911a1
Jul 1, '09, 1:36 PM
if the first 2 specials are indications of things to come I am very very concerned that the show has had it's better days (actually I fetl that way about most of season 4 too)
david_b
Jul 1, '09, 2:01 PM
they should have paid Chris Ecclestion(spelling anyone?) whatever he wanted to stay on. He was great as the new doctor. Dave Tenant took a while to grow on me but after Rose left i stopped watching. The new companion was just too annoying. Besides, Rose is hot!!!
You may be correct in it running it's course.. The last Christmas special was pretty weak, made up for to a degree by a good Easter Special. The Xmas special with Donna and 'Timecrash' with Peter Davison were pretty super by comparison.
Tennant with Billie Piper was the best ~ I didn't like Eccleston much.
I just sold my Season 2 boxset, the Sarah Jane episode being the best.
I'll cherish the best from Tennant's tenure, much as I do with Tom Baker and Peter Davison. That's pretty much it for me.
david_b
For me, when the new series first premiered I was very skeptical but I gave it a chance.
I did not like the 1 hour format, I did not like the idea of having a companion as the centre of the show, I did not like the Time Lords dead - and - I did not like the new "cool" leather jacket wearing Doctor.
After a short time, it really grew on me ... But, like all Doctor Who's, once you get used to them they're already leaving.
Tennant was ok too (his first season).
By season 3 I already started to not like the show... the top-off was making the Master a comedian.
IMO, season-4 was even worse then 3
Yes, a lot of this can be blamed on RTD, but I just think the general formula of the new series may be dying.
I think the Doctor needs to go back to his roots and become a science fiction show again.
Not a sci-fi/love-melodrama/action-comedy like it's been in recent years.
If the show dies after going back to its roots, at least it will dye a dignified death instead of a long dying laughing stock like SLIDERS-seasons 3-5 etc.
>The partial hiatus is really killing the show, imo
I think this is the BIGGEST problem. It's real easy to be eclipsed nowadays.
>the top-off was making the Master a comedian.
I actually LOVED the new Master! It seemed to me like he'd finally gone around the bend due to the many defeats he'd been handed by the Doctor over the years. For a megalomaniac like him this would be an irreconcilable series of events.
Same with the Daleks wanting to absorb the human trait that just lets them always win, even when the odds are against it. I thought that was cool: the bad guys analyzing the whole "good guys always win" thing that most shows have, but from a continuity perspective.
>Not a sci-fi/love-melodrama/action-comedy like it's been in recent years.
The only bit I don't like is their insistence in having a current love interest. That sort of thing often seems tacked on to me; in any show/book/movie. Rose kinda made sense, since the Doctor was very alone, and she ended up softening his bitter, soccer hooligan self. But to do that schtick again with somone else takes away from it, and makes the Doctor seem like a dimensional lothario. I DID like how they played things with Donna; that everyone thought they were an item, even though they weren't.
I actually really liked her by the end of the last season. And I'd like to see more of Doctor/Donna.
Don C.
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