Battle for the Cowl spoilers if you haven't read the first 2 issues

[Riffster]

ok so mystery Batmen abound... one is clearly Tim Drake as he admitted to Catwoman, but so far the Batman that's killing people Nightwing and Robin both have called him Jason but he's not confirmed it or denied it. could this be a switch? He knows the identities of everyone, has his own batcave.

I like that it could be a wildcard and not jason.

[BlackKnight]

Yeah,.. I dunno what book your Reading,.. but I thought it was pretty set in stone that he was Todd ...,.. Even more so the Few times he has Narated his scenes,.. the only other person it could maybe possibly be is Jean Paul Valley if it's not Todd. ... But I believe it is Todd .. I guess we will see.

[Riffster]

maybe I'm reading it with blinders on :) i don't want him to be it.haha

[BlackKnight]

Well,... I think when he was narating in one of the pages,.. he aluded to the fact of being one of the Robins,.. so I dunno ...

You reading Oracle ?.
Watcha think of The fact that apparently Wendi never Died yet in Teen Titan's at the hands of Wonder Mutt,.. & She is the Calculators Daughter ???.... & He's fighting for the Anti Life Equation with Barbara ?..

I thought it was interesting...

[Riffster]

yup,I'll read anything with Babs in it. I'm in hopes she finds a cure and is Batgirl again, i know with batwoman around that might not happen. yeah i knew Wendi was still alive, i hope too she comes around and is back with the Titans again. i liked her character potential as a behind the scenes leader for them

[BlackKnight]

Mark my Word...
Wendi will wind up a Villian,.. at one point in time or another. :wink:
BTW,.. I wish they would Kill Batwoman, & Make Barbara BatGirl again.

[Riffster]

but what about Cassandra?I liked when she wore Babs costume, i hate the closed in look for her mask. the new batwoman has potential but we'll see where the mini series goes

[BlackKnight]

Absolutly no Love over here for Cassandra.
Don't like the suit,.. don't think the character was or has ever been needed.

[Riffster]

I'm with you
http://usera.imagecave.com/Riffster/Art/batgirl.jpg

[Earth 2 Chris]

I never thought they'd make Babs Batgirl again, but since they brought Hal and Barry back, nothing is off limits. I liked what they did with her as Oracle, but it would be a kick to see her as Batgirl again, and not just flashbacks. Been a LONG time.

Chris

[The Toyroom]

But it would be a kick to see her as Batgirl again, and not just flashbacks. Been a LONG time.

21 years to be exact...gulp!

[BlackKnight]

I never thought they'd make Babs Batgirl again, but since they brought Hal and Barry back...

Chris



You Know,.. since they Now brought back Barry,.. I believe anything is Possible..., Alot more so than Hal,.. After all he has the Cosmic Pwrs of the Green Lantern Corps ...

But even more so anything can be done,.. they Brought Back Jason Todd & Buckey. These Guys were Dead. The Last time I saw Todd,.. Batman Had him in his Arms,.. Dead.

Barbara's Not Dead...
& Remember when Bane Broke Batman's Back ? ... Didn't Bruce find some sorta " Cure" or some kinda Mutant Healer Chick or something ??.

Bring Back Barbara Already as Batgirl,.. Me Wants. :grin:

[thunderbolt]

The new Batgirl costume looks a lot like its going to be Cassandra. It resembles hers minus the mouth covering. Another potential Batgirl is The Squire from the Club of Heroes, and heck, couldn't Wendy end up with the gig?

[BlackKnight]

Yeah,.. So I just Finished Reading Battle for the Cowl #3 ...
This series started off much Better than it ended imo...It just seemed too Damn Crammed,.. However they were Obviously setting stuff up for the Upcomming Months of Batman...

Punisher-Batman was infact Jason Todd ...., & NightWing did (ofcourse) Defeat him. IMO,.. They shoulda let Todd run around Gotham for a Few Months has Punisher-Batman... I personally liked it,.. Quite a Bit,.. & thus has been the Coolest Idea In the Wake of DC Removing Bruce thus Far.....
SO they Illude to the Fact that Dick will become Batman with the Last page of the book,.. However they never DO show him in the Batsuit....

I also Read the Azreal 3 Book Arc ... I kinda Liked it.
I guess Jean Paul Valley is Dead ... There's a New Guy running around in a Different God Suit... I guess the onging book Starts soon ...

Oracle the Cure...
I was so Hoping at the end of this book,.. Barbara was going to become Batgirl Again.... But whatever. :silly:
So the Anti-Life Equation does Exsist,.. & is out there,... But it doesn't seem to work correctly .... so I wonder if that missing piece will be found... I thought it was interesting that on the Last Page of the Book,.. there was the Batgirl Logo ... & the words Comming soon,.. or whatever with a #1 Next to it..., why do that at the End of a Barbara Oracle book ?.

Secret Six #9
My Personal Fav,.. of all this Crap ... even though,.. you could say it's really not related,.. but it somewhat is... however it is a Stand alone story,.. but so is everything else.
Bane, Catman & Ragdoll show up in Gotham city,.. to prevent several little Kids from being Kidnappedd for Ransom....
Bane & Catman kinda keep one uping each other threw the Book,.. trying to imply that they could Be Batman,.. but when always confronted with the Head on Question ( Do you wanna be Batman ) They both ofcourse so No.... & Rag Doll,... running around in that Robin suit,.. over his Own Suit, shouting out all those classic Cheese Boy Wonder lines.... :smiley1: Man,.. it was fantastic.

So Dick/Nightwing is in all these Books ...
They pretty much set up him Being Batman in all these books ...

I dunno,.. I can't really say I am too jazzed about anything...
I think Ill check out Batgirl,.. Perhaps Detective..., But probably not much else.

[The Bat]

Well...I'm just glad it's Dick Grayson standing in for Bruce until he returns.:wink_y: I LOVE the Character, and had it been ANYBODY else...I was going to cancel ALL DC Books except Green Lantern. So...I guess they'll continue to get my Money for now.:sarky:

[Earth 2 Chris]

Not to constantly whine and gripe, but DC did another Bat-event without any payoff in the actual pages of the books?

That being said, it had to be Dick as Bats or nothing till Bruce comes back.

Chris

[BlackKnight]

Well...I'm just glad it's Dick Grayson standing in for Bruce until he returns.:wink_y: I LOVE the Character, and had it been ANYBODY else...I was going to cancel ALL DC Books except Green Lantern. So...I guess they'll continue to get my Money for now.:sarky:

Well Have Fun with that Morrison & Quintley Book there Dane...., I believe that is the Only Book that will feature Your Dick as Batman. :smiley1:

Unless ofcourse he Guest Stars Somewhere Else... There is a Black Lantern Batman 3 Part book comming out,.. so Who Knows. :silly:

[thunderbolt]

^^ Also the regular Batman book will feature Batman. But its written by Winnick.

[BlackKnight]

^^ Also the regular Batman book will feature Batman. But its written by Winnick.

WOW !!!!
Really ?.. :googly: ..... :terror: ... :juggleyes_y:
Yes,.. Have fun there Dane,.. with your Batbooks. :smiley1:

[thunderbolt]

I'm passing on the Winnick crud, eagerly awaiting the other.

[The Toyroom]

I'm sooo glad I voted with my wallet and didn't indulge in any of this crap....I did pick up Oracle:The Cure #1 and 2 but couldn't even see my way to finish a 3-part mini-series....At this point, Gotham is dead to me. :muh:

And I think Metropolis may be following suit very shortly if business doesn't pick up on the Superman titles...:yeah:

[The Bat]

WOW !!!!
Really ?.. :googly: ..... :terror: ... :juggleyes_y:
Yes,.. Have fun there Dane,.. with your Batbooks. :smiley1:



Yes...I aleady knew that Morrison & Quitely GARBAGE was a seperate title called "Batman & Robin"...Money saved there.:sarky:

[BlackKnight]

Yes...I aleady knew that Morrison & Quitely GARBAGE was a seperate title called "Batman & Robin"...Money saved there.:sarky:

If your Not gonna Read the Books,.. Why do you Give a Damn if Dick is Batman ?. :sarky:

[BlackKnight]

I'm sooo glad I voted with my wallet and didn't indulge in any of this crap....I did pick up Oracle:The Cure #1 and 2 but couldn't even see my way to finish a 3-part mini-series....At this point, Gotham is dead to me. :muh:

I actually liked aspects of Oracle,.. & Todd's Rampage in Battle for the Cowl. The "Punisher" in Gotham was Way cooler than Dick's Mental Instabilties Wanting & Walking in Bruces Shoes. It was Almost Like Watching an Action Movie,.. then Watching General Hospital Without Frisco & Scorpio. Toooooo Much inside Drama with Dick in the Batsuit imo.

I want Todd's Punisher-Batman a Tittle. They are making all this other crap,.. Atleast give me what I want too.


And I think Metropolis may be following suit very shortly if business doesn't pick up on the Superman titles...:yeah:


Is Superman going to be gone for the entire Blackest Night Saga ???
& What book is going to be Following Superman's Exploits in Space,.. is that where he is going ? Any chance He's gonna Hook up with some Lanterns ?

& SuperGirl,.. so Far is still cool. :cool_y:

[The Bat]

If your Not gonna Read the Books,.. Why do you Give a Damn if Dick is Batman ?. :sarky:

I don't think you were listening BK...I am going to buy the regular Batman title written by Winnick, and I believe drawn by Benes(or Daniel?).:wink:

I'm hoping the Morrison/Quitely CRAP is a seperate ALL STAR title.:yuk:

[thunderbolt]

^^ NOpe, its the flagship title. WINNCK??? Seriously?? I still don't get how that idjit gets work.

As far as Jason/Punisher Bats goes, if they did that, it would really go against what Batman has stood for over the last 70 years, Dick Grayson is the man for the job. Maybe after every Crisis, a Titan will take over for his/her mentor.

[The Bat]

^^ NOpe, its the flagship title. WINNCK??? Seriously??


Anything is better than Morrison Joe!:grin: And as long as the Titles don't cross over...I'll still buy the Book! Plus...Ed Benes ROCKS!:music-smiley-005:

[BlackKnight]

As far as Jason/Punisher Bats goes, if they did that, it would really go against what Batman has stood for over the last 70 years, Dick Grayson is the man for the job.


& Thats why it would be Fun for a bit...
To go the Complete Opposite Direction for a Bit,.. untill Bruce Comes Back, ... Rather than Have Some Mentally Challenged Dick (pun Intended :smiley1:) Worry Repeatedly about Whether or Not he is Good Enough to Be Batman... Sorry, I find that Direction SOOOO Damn Tiresome..... , I have Just bought my Last Batbooks for a Bit,.. with the Exception of The Blackest night Batman stuff.

[BlackKnight]

Anything is better than Morrison Joe!:grin: And as long as the Titles don't cross over...I'll still buy the Book! Plus...Ed Benes ROCKS!:music-smiley-005:

Yeah,.. Benes does Rock,.. However with Winnick at the Wheel,.. that book is gonna Suck Worse than the Recent Vixen & the JLA series . :googly:

[The Toyroom]

Anything is better than Morrison Joe

I'd actually buy a Morrison book that I don't understand that makes no sense over Winick....that's how much I hate Judd Winick's "writing". :yuk:

[The Toyroom]

Is Superman going to be gone for the entire Blackest Night Saga ???
& What book is going to be Following Superman's Exploits in Space,.. is that where he is going ? Any chance He's gonna Hook up with some Lanterns ?

Superman:New World of Krypton is the Supes space book....Lanterns are showing up in #4 I think.

[The Toyroom]

It was Almost Like Watching an Action Movie,.. then Watching General Hospital Without Frisco & Scorpio.

Those were the good ol' days....jade buddhas, aztec treasures, the WBS and DVX all caught up in the international intrigue. :yeah::smiley1:

[thunderbolt]

and no, Ed Benes does not rock. He bites bigtime. He's draws like Lee and Turner's love child.

[The Bat]

What a shock...we disagree on Artists again.:rolleyes_2:

BTW...I think Mike Mignola sucks!:grin:

[BlackKnight]

^^^ There is No one that Draws a Hotter Wonder Woman imo. Than Benes :grin:


http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/geekspeak/archives/benes%20art%201.jpg

http://edbenesart.com/images/Color/WonderWoman.jpg

But reguardless....,
You guys Do all realize,.. that the More people that Buy into any of these BS new Books,.. the Longer Bruce will not be Batman right ? ..

[thunderbolt]

^^ So if I buy a hundred copies of Batman, I can listen to you guys moan about it longer?

[thunderbolt]

What a shock...we disagree on Artists again.:rolleyes_2:

BTW...I think Mike Mignola sucks!:grin:

Call me when Jim Lee creates something with the staying power of Hellboy. And Hush doesn't count it was work for hire.

[The Bat]

But reguardless....,
You guys Do all realize,.. that the More people that Buy into any of these BS new Books,.. the Longer Bruce will not be Batman right ? ..


Nah...I think DC has planned exactly how long Bruce will be gone...and He'll be back.:wink_y:

[thunderbolt]

Nah...I think DC has planned exactly how long Bruce will be gone...and He'll be back.:wink_y:

Actually I'm pretty sure Morrison has the whole thing planned already. He was planning a hint at Bruce being alive, but Didio wanted it more obvious guessing since he thinks we need to be beaten over the head with stuff.

[BlackKnight]

Nah...I think DC has planned exactly how long Bruce will be gone...and He'll be back.:wink_y:


I don't believe you.
If No One Bought 1 Single Issue,.. of Any of this New Batman Crap,... In 2 Months Bruce Would Be Back as Batman, Because DC woulda Already Lost their Arse, and Morrison Would be Fired. :wink_y:

[The Toyroom]

Didio need(s) to be beaten over the head with stuff.

I LIKE THAT IDEA! :smiley1:

[The Bat]

I don't believe you.
If No One Bought 1 Single Issue,.. of Any of this New Batman Crap,... In 2 Months Bruce Would Be Back as Batman, Because DC woulda Already Lost their Arse, and Morrison Would be Fired. :wink_y:


Hmm....you make a VERY good point.:please_y:

[The Bat]

Call me when Jim Lee creates something with the staying power of Hellboy. And Hush doesn't count it was work for hire.


You mean Hellboy hasn't been cancelled yet??:grin::smiley1:

[Earth 2 Chris]

I will say Benes does know how to draw attractive comic women. While he of course over does the breasts, at least the have curves and weight to them, and their legs aren't 6 feet long. He does REALLY like to go for the gratuitous crotch, butt and boob shots though. Birds of Prey was FULL of them when he drew it. It was almost like Gail Simone and him were working on two different books.

Winnick....oh my. Really. Again? Is he someone's nephew?

Chris

[thunderbolt]

You mean Hellboy hasn't been cancelled yet??:grin::smiley1:

Nope, but its actually going to have a ending within a few years. Mignola is building towards it now.

[aquatroy]

and no, Ed Benes does not rock. He bites bigtime. He's draws like Lee and Turner's love child.

:clap:

[aquatroy]

Actually I'm pretty sure Morrison has the whole thing planned already. He was planning a hint at Bruce being alive, but Didio wanted it more obvious guessing since he thinks we need to be beaten over the head with stuff.

I think the hints to Bruce's return were given in the 7 Soldiers, Mr. Miracle mini. Which I have, but haven't had a chance to read.

[The Bat]

:clap:


You and tbolt should get a Room together Troy.:grin::silly:

[thunderbolt]

So should you and Jim Lee

[The Bat]

So should you and Jim Lee


Already have...he's a great kisser.:silly::smiley1:

[thunderbolt]

Now we know how Jim Lee gets fans. :yuk::grin:

[BlackKnight]

^^^ Nah,..
I am a Lee Fan too ...
granted everything he's done pretty much past Hush,.. Has been lack luster..( With the Exception of the Now 1 Shot WildC.A.T.S. Revamp book drawn by him.. )
But I haven't been a Fan of any of the Story lines either...
His delays Do become Tiresome,.. & then when the book finally comes,.. you are like :meh: :muh:

I like Benes too,.. But seriously not enough to just by his JLA Book,.. or even this new Dick Batman book. But , ... I am really disapointed by the Whole Direction of any of this to even care,.. let alone care with my Money & Buy it.