Captain Action License question

[justzeg18]

Hey all,

I was just pointed towards this link http://74.52.193.82/events/main.php?g2_itemId=131058

and was wondering if they could even get the license to produce a figure of captain action since castaway already does? or do they specify in the agreement that it is based on scale? and the bit where they claim exclusivity is interesting too.

I'm really only curious as I have seen Shocker put out press releases for properties that they don't in-fact have....they pretty much suck over-all as a company really....

any thoughts on this?

[ZICA]

Hey all,

I was just pointed towards this link http://74.52.193.82/events/main.php?g2_itemId=131058

and was wondering if they could even get the license to produce a figure of captain action since castaway already does? or do they specify in the agreement that it is based on scale? and the bit where they claim exclusivity is interesting too.

I'm really only curious as I have seen Shocker put out press releases for properties that they don't in-fact have....they pretty much suck over-all as a company really....

any thoughts on this?

I'm almost positive that it's based on scale. The reason I say that is because a friend of mine was approached by Captain Action Enterprises about the possibility of doing a premium format figure in the 12" scale.

[thunderbolt]

Shocker doesn't actually produce any toys, just flame wars at CBR and Toymania.

[David Lee]

Licenses can be both very specific (scale, clothes or molded plastic, articulated or not), or broad (action figures) it really depends on the specifics of the individual agreement. Most licensor's try and get the biggest bang for their buck, the more specific you are in your agreement the more companies can make stuff from your license without infringing on each other, and you get more royaltees... Some grant MASTER LICENSES, this is usually anything toy related comes from the same company, these are rarer these days since there are so many different formats.

I'm really only curious as I have seen Shocker put out press releases for properties that they don't in-fact have....

Funny you should say that, I'll ask the CA guys about it, and the last time I spoke with the Dick Tracy folks they didn't mention Shocker either (that doesn't mean it's not legit).

We have the license for 8 inch figures as well as 12 inch stuff with Captain Action...

[justzeg18]

Shocker doesn't actually produce any toys, just flame wars at CBR and Toymania.

yeah, I've been following this train wreck of a toy company since they got the Scud license. I've seen several of those huge threads. It's sad how bad shocker seems to suck, really.

[thunderbolt]

^^^ And they won't go away. I don't get how they can afford to keep showing at Toyfair and other shows without actually putting out any product.

[David Lee]

^^^ And they won't go away. I don't get how they can afford to keep showing at Toyfair and other shows without actually putting out any product.

According to their site it looks like they will ship March 31st... but $18 for a six inch figure seems a bit high IMO... Hmmm... maybe they are finally getting it together...

-Dave

[thunderbolt]

^^^ Doubt it. Diamond and BBTS cancelled the orders for them.

[David Lee]

^^^ Doubt it. Diamond and BBTS cancelled the orders for them.

Wow, that's too bad... But what a train wreck! I read a Wikipedia timeline on these guys (it's bad when there is Wikipedia devoted to it), and some of the CRB forum stuff... I honestly can se how they have been around this long.... If they did in fact make the stuff and have it shipped here from the factory with no place to sell it that would suck! They are a cautionary tale for small toy companies...

-Dave

[Captain]

I've had some dealings with Shocker before. To my knowledge the only thing they did release was a few generic Shockini figures. None of the licensed stuff has...again to the best of my knowledge....hit the marketplace.

They lost the license to my clients properties (along with most if not all the properties they have at one time or another announced) due to "inactivety". After consulting Kreskin, Karnac, and the Great Gazoo, I forecast the same coming down the line for Captain Action, Dick Tracy, and anything else they have in the pipeline.

As alluded to, these guys seem to have a boatload of money behind them, and they do actually have proprietary moulds, etc for Shockinis, and most of what they have announced, so I have no idea why they never seem to actually step over the plate and come out with anything tangible in the marketplace?

[David Lee]

Well it looks like Shocker is signing an agreement with Captain Action, so that's legit... they may also do other stuff. We will be doing only 8 inch stuff from here on out...

-Dave

[rche]

.... We will be doing only 8 inch stuff from here on out...

-Dave

dang
I got a bit excited when I read you had a license for 8s and 12s. I was hoping that if all went well for you all, you might delve into the classic release arena. Ah well.

Not that I don't like the 8 inchers. They are mighty cool.

rche

[Megotu]

Additional Captain Action Query:
Any thoughts on CA costume releases? Well, Costume/accessory releases? I realize each ons of these would be a separate license and separate headache...
If you did go that route, would you do the rubber over the head mask like Ideal or would you do the separate removable head like Mego did with the Secret Identities? I hafta think the removable head would be easier...

[hobub]

Good idea Bill.

[Megotu]

Secondus as a followup...Some nice Generic types for the Patain Action might be fun too...
A few thoughts like Cowboys and Indians, maybe a Bearded Pilot, Sailor and Adventurer type guys....