Dida Drawing Board: Legion of Doom [Archive]

MegoScott

Oct 14, '08, 12:17 PM

So help me out here. I've working on this painting for the front panel of the LOD playset.

http://www.didadisplays.com/protos/lod/lod1.jpg

I'll show pics of the inside and how it will work later, but for now my question is this:

Should this be the other outside image? Do you really want Black Lightning and Apache Cheif and those guys? Since Joker wasn't in the show should he be excluded, even though you'll probably put your Mego Joker in the playset?

http://www.didadisplays.com/protos/lod/legion-back.jpg

david_b

Oct 14, '08, 1:03 PM

He could be shown on the side panels, along with the other Bat and Spidey villains.

Obviously Mego didn't make any of the SuperFriends villains pictured on top (nor some of the depicted heroes..), so that can measure your criteria for inclusion..

The Toyroom

Oct 14, '08, 1:07 PM

He could be shown on the side panels, along with the other Bat and Spidey villains.

Why would you put Spidey villains on a Legion of Doom playset?

The Toyroom

Oct 14, '08, 1:09 PM

Should this be the other outside image? Do you really want Black Lightning

Ahem..Black VULCAN...the poor man's H-B version of Black Lightning. :wink_y::smiley1:

MegoScott

Oct 14, '08, 1:12 PM

You can tell I'm an expert. :smiley1:

Yeah, I dunno, on my HOJ I customized the group to include only heroes Mego made, hence no GL or Flash and teh addition of Batgirl and Shazam. But the LOD lineup is pretty great and it does seem like people make customs of them a lot.

No Spidey, but I really need to do some Marvel playsets. This is ridiculous.

SUP-Ronin

Oct 14, '08, 1:13 PM

No Spidey villians, but I would be fine with DC villians. I mean Riddler is in there originally, so it is still logical that Joker would be around someplace. Still, I would be fine with a strictly show based theme, that includes Black Lightening, and Apache Chief, and Samurai.

The Toyroom

Oct 14, '08, 1:23 PM

And again the cry goes out...BLACK VULCAN!:smiley1:

MegoScott

Oct 14, '08, 1:31 PM

Well, if we can't keep his name straight I don't want him on the playset. :smiley1:

SUP-Ronin

Oct 14, '08, 1:32 PM

And again the cry goes out...BLACK VULCAN!:smiley1:

I was going by what Scott said. Sorry jeez. :please_y:

MegoScott

Oct 14, '08, 1:35 PM

Blame it on me. Him and Sumo-Man and Apache Chef...

EMCE Hammer

Oct 14, '08, 1:37 PM

No Joker - save him for the Filmation set. What? No Filmation set? Dude!

SUP-Ronin

Oct 14, '08, 1:38 PM

Apache Chef?? mmmm....fry bread.

huedell

Oct 14, '08, 1:39 PM

And again the cry goes out...BLACK VULCAN!:smiley1:

I don't think it was until much later that I realized it was "Vulcan"
instead of "Falcon" :)

And then I was like waitaminute---is this some kind of "Trek crossover" thing?

Anyways---it's cool thi sproject is being worked on.

I say go hardcore HB COTSF with the graphics.

THEN if the mood strikes afterwards---make a totally different
playset based more on the comicbooks---a "Citadel" playset, or
whatever the heck the villains used in the comic run of SSOSV

Kinda---like "in for a penny---in for a pound".

Joker and Myxylpltlk and even Penguin cameos from graphics from
their HB appearances around the same time would be a cool add--
on like viewscreens or something--you know---subtle stuff like that
for character graphics that may be "borderline" for inclusion.

huedell

Oct 14, '08, 1:43 PM

... and Apache Chef...

Now for my Holiday Corn Surprise

Watch as I make maize grow really big!

Enek-Chuk!

Now mix with three bales of cilantro and a two ton dash of cinnamon.

BAM!

megomike98118

Oct 14, '08, 2:24 PM

my vote is to just have the members of the legion of doom on the artwork. why would the super heroes be included? it is a villain display. unless the depictions are of the super heroes in peril.

MegoScott

Oct 14, '08, 2:42 PM

This is a really tough project. That image is a screencap from the DVD, it doesn't exist in a larger form anywhere as far as I know, which means it would have to be redrawn by hand, essentially. On the HOJ I had the treasury edition comic that was quite large to use as a base.

I wonder about using this, though it's missing a lot of key players.
http://www.treasurycomics.com/images/gallery/dc/lce39_origins_villains.gif

censy

Oct 14, '08, 2:53 PM

So what's the deal with Black Lightning anyway? Just kidding Anthony : )

I think it would make sense to take liberties with the roster of villains. Like the HOJ, include the characters mego made, since they will be used in the playset. Then expand it to include a few of the others who really were on the show and some people have made customs of.

This way, you won't need to use an existing piece of group art which may or may not have the right roster. You can piece it together from various sources.

The other image of the hall exterior is awesome.

Chris

MegoScott

Oct 14, '08, 3:37 PM

Hmm, I passed this on to a guy I work with, he's game to do the drawing. If that works out it'll rock, he's an all-pro animation artist.

megomike98118

Oct 14, '08, 5:05 PM

actually, now that i think about it, i guess including the villains that mego made would work too. after all, they have the same common goal: TO RULE THE WORLD! as to why, i have no idea.

Action Martin

Oct 14, '08, 5:18 PM

So help me out here. I've working on this painting for the front panel of the LOD playset.
http://www.didadisplays.com/protos/lod/lod1.jpg

When you say "front panel" do you mean the door that faces us when displayed or the backside that faces away from us when displayed? I think it would be better facing away.

Should this be the other outside image? Do you really want Black Lightning and Apache Cheif and those guys? Since Joker wasn't in the show should he be excluded, even though you'll probably put your Mego Joker in the playset?
http://www.didadisplays.com/protos/lod/legion-back.jpg

Put this image on the bottom side of the door like you did with the Toth Superfriends. This is a tribute to "Challenge of the Superfriends" so the image should remain unaltered.

Besides I have 7 of the 13 Legionaires as customs already. This will motivate me to get a Toyman and Captain Cold done soon. :smile:

CrimsonGhost

Oct 14, '08, 5:22 PM

If you are going for a "Challenge" specific playset, then I would only include the characters from the show. The Hall of Justice or the JLA Satellite or whatever can have the excluded characters.

I'm not sure what Marvel Playsets would look cool. Avengers Mansion and the X-Men mutant school are not that visually interesting. I take that back, the danger room could be cool.

Action Martin

Oct 14, '08, 6:01 PM

BTW, will this be a deluxe display set or "basic" display set?

SUP-Ronin

Oct 14, '08, 6:20 PM

I would stick to the show, and keep the Original 13. That image of the Legion Hall is exactly what I had hoped for. I really like that classic pic of the 2 sides charging each other. This thing is going to kick ***.

PNGwynne

Oct 14, '08, 6:23 PM

i think it should just have the original 13 . Maybe scenes or classic moments on the side

I agree--classic LOD, use classic H-B "Challenge art.

If you have extra room on other panels, you might add Penguin, Joker, Mxy, maybe even Star Sapphire, Prof. Zoom, Metallo, pirate Catwoman, Fisherman (or Ocean Master), Gentleman Ghost, Sivana, Two-Face. These reflect the original Mego foes as well as popular customs that might have been members--kind of a Ross "Justice" nod.

Can't wait to see how this progresses, Scott. I've resisted Dida so far because I'm still collecting vintage, but this is the project that just might make me take the plunge. The LOD is what made me want custom Megos!

Mego Milk

Oct 14, '08, 9:16 PM

diggit.

I think it would be cool to stick to the tv show characters.

right on.

megocanada

Oct 14, '08, 9:38 PM

Stick with the Challenge of Super-Friends picture. I love the screen picture!

bobws

Oct 15, '08, 12:47 AM

I'm of mixed feelings, ilike the idea of pure LOD on the cover, but maybe other villians on panels inside.
i think the heroes look cool even BV AC and S.
i vote for a Danger room playset next and the Teen Titans Tower and Legion HQ after that. Do you have the JLA Satellite as a playset already? i would need that! A TARDIS Playset OH YEAH !!!!!!!! Blue Box outside white Roundels inside PLEASE !!!!!!!!!

Earth 2 Chris

Oct 15, '08, 1:25 PM

Scott, there's an Adams/Giordano DC villains illustration from the DC 76 calendar I can get you a high-res scan of. Has most of the LOD if memory serves.

Chris

MegoScott

Oct 15, '08, 1:28 PM

Thanks, Chris, I've been wanting to get my hands on those calendars. We're going to take a shot at recreating this image, but it'd be great to have more options to add to the sides.

huedell

Oct 15, '08, 2:01 PM

Personally? I think it's a mistake to add anything from the comics
to this LOD playset for the simple reason that this LEGION OF DOOM
was a TV phenomenon.

Now---I guess I understand the philosophy of adding stuff from the comics
if a Dida-made DC villains headquarters playset goal is geared towards
limiting a villains headquarters to just the HALL OF DOOM and attempting
to bring the TV idea into a more "neutral context" as I guess that's what the
Mego HOJ was doing (exploiting the familliar name from TV as opposed
to making a JLA Satellite playset)---

I guess I just think in a more focused way when it comes to product direction
---it'd be a easier thought process for me personally to design
something with the "TV/HB" "limitations" in mind---otherwise
the options are too spread across the board.

One other direction to consider is get real "Megoey" and mimic what was
done with the Dida HOJ playset and feature JUST the five Mego DC villains
in a group shot simillar to the heroes shot used for the Dida HOJ---then
additonally using smaller references to favorite 70s DC villain
customs/main arch villains like: Cheetah, Sinestro, Capt. Cold, Black Manta,
Lex Luthor....as well as villains who weren't LOD members yet had Mego
counterparts---i.e. Sivana, Merlyn The Archer and Dr. Light etc, etc.

So yeah---my opinion hinges on if there's no need for a comicbook "Citadel"
or other DC villain headquarters---and if there isn't----then adding
comicbook references throughout is expected, but of course with the
usual "design tact".

MegoScott

Oct 15, '08, 2:31 PM

Not sure if I follow all of that, but my own impulse is to do the Challenge title card group clash as is, but I'd also like to somehow get the Joker and Penguin and Myxie in somewhere...Mego didn't worry about the kind of things they worry about now. I can see them saying--"Hey, that clash picture is cool, let's use that, but make sure the other figures we've made end up in it somehow. And can you add that big yellow batcopter so we can sell some more of those?" Some of the stuff I like best about Mego is what they got wrong.

PNGwynne

Oct 15, '08, 4:13 PM

huedell

Oct 15, '08, 9:39 PM

Hmmm....calendars.

Scott, do you have the 1987? Super Powers calendar? Most of the art is Giordano, I think.

It features a few villians, as well as a great foe group shot, which includes Zod, Sivana, etc. Might be useful.

I have two stashed somewhere; LMK.

Re: Huedell's comments above--good points. About Merlyn the Archer, though, for Green Arrow: I know he's got that evil doppleganger thing going, but for corny panache, I vote for Clock King! I'm serious. (Jeez, GA has a worse Rogues' Gallery than Aquaman.)

I was going to mention CLOCK KING...I have no problem with
the character's corniness---I was going to mention SLINGSHOT and
BLACK ADAM, AUNT MINERVA and MR. MIND too
but I was trying to keep from being too "all over the place"
by naming multiple arch-villains for the same hero character---
we could be here all day---even with just keeping to the bigger villains
(What about Ocean Master? Nubia? Ra's Al Guhl?)

It sure is fun to wax on about though! :)

(BTW---Scott---your last post was quite on point---apologies
mine was a bit blurry---it's hard to articulate this kinda stuff
---for me anyway----good wishes on the project!)

MegoScott

Oct 15, '08, 9:46 PM

Not problem, thanks for the input! Thanks everyone!

david_b

Oct 16, '08, 6:10 AM

Why would you put Spidey villains on a Legion of Doom playset?

Well, if you totally focused on LOD, fine, although nearly none of the villains were even made by Mego, so what's the point...? I figured it would make a nice overall villains hideout.

Along your lines, why would folks here display Spidey in with DC characters..? Most photos here have both Marvel and DC characters featured, unless it's a Baxter Building or Wayne Manor shot...

The Toyroom

Oct 16, '08, 7:10 AM

^ Not to speak for Scott, but I see his LOD playset as a companion piece to his HOJ playset, which was inspired by Mego's original HOJ playset. The Mego HOJ never cross-promoted the characters from rival companies (except for the goof with Supes and some of the Avengers in one of the view screens).

If you want Marvel characters thrown in the mix, the catch-all WGSH Dida Display is probably your best bet...not the LOD playset. :wink_y:

MegoScott

Oct 22, '08, 6:52 PM

Got the drawing in from my friend at work. He nailed it. I'm psyched! Here's a taste, just adding color now. I think I'll do a shadow and highlight pass as well.

http://www.didadisplays.com/protos/lod/lod010.jpg

Earth 2 Chris

Oct 22, '08, 7:34 PM

Hoo-boy, that is nice. Looks like an actual SF animation cel!

Chris

megomike98118

Oct 22, '08, 9:03 PM

cool. i hope the pics i send you for the LOD lineup turn up nice and vibrant. i will take several different styles in different light so you can have an abundant choice for your playset.

megomike98118

Oct 22, '08, 9:04 PM

p.s. i think batman has some gum or dog doo-doo on his right boot. :grin:

MegoScott

Oct 22, '08, 9:23 PM

Yeah, I'll fix that part on his boot, I saw that.

Mike is going to take some shots of his LOD cells that I hope to incorporate into the side walls of the set. Thanks!

Here's 3 more.

http://www.didadisplays.com/protos/lod/lod007.jpg

wyldpny

Oct 22, '08, 9:40 PM

Those look awesome

Action Martin

Oct 23, '08, 5:29 AM

Sinestro looks like he has an afro.

Earth 2 Chris

Oct 23, '08, 7:02 AM

Sinestro looks like he has an afro.

That's pretty accurate to how he was drawn on the show. He sometimes did look a little...funky. Three quick things I noticed that are by no means criticizing this great art: Robin shouldn't have laces on his cape. Maybe he was interpreting the laces on his shirt? Wonder Woman's bracelets on SF are dark blue, and Sinestro should have light blue boots.

Chris

SoulSinger

Oct 23, '08, 1:42 PM

Sinestro kinda looks like George Jefferson (Sherman Helmsley) LOL

Bob

ScottA

Oct 23, '08, 1:58 PM

Looking great Scott. But shouldn't we be able to see some of Robins' legs? Or is it just me?

MegoScott

Oct 23, '08, 2:15 PM

This is pretty much a direct take on this title card image...so no legs on the boy wonder.

http://www.didadisplays.com/protos/lod/legion-back.jpg

ScottA

Oct 23, '08, 2:43 PM

Gottcha. Just looks odd.

SUP-Ronin

Oct 23, '08, 4:42 PM

Maybe he is tucked up for some sort of jumping move.
That LOD cell is sweet, but it looks like Grod and Grundy are gonna tear apart Sinestro, for some reason. I guess they don't always get along, so it's perfectly understandable. Perhaps he stole the last of the Monkey Pellets or weird sandwiches from the LOD fridge. Grundy hates it when you mess with his food.:grin:

MegoScott

Oct 25, '08, 12:05 PM

Here they are all together. I still have a few things to do. Finish up the Text logo, I'm doing a different design than the one from the Challenge show, "Challenge will have the same red streaks as SF. The background needs some work. I'm torn about adding more painted shadows and highlights to the characters. hey look great as this animated style, but I kind for feel they might need more for playset art.

http://www.didadisplays.com/protos/lod/challenge.jpg

http://www.didadisplays.com/protos/lod/chall1.jpg

http://www.didadisplays.com/protos/lod/chall2.jpg