Fantastic Four 2 SPOILER thread!!! BEWARE!!!

[Hector]

Ok, I have NOT seen the movie, but couldn't contain myself and ask Mr Kingdom Warrior about what happened in the movie, and...

GOD I HATE THOSE IDIOTS WHO MADE THE FILM!!!

What???? YOU NEVER SEE GALACTUS? HE'S JUST A FRIGGIN' CLOUD??? ***???

Silver Surfer loses his board and HE himself loses his powers??? SINCE WHEN??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Silver Surfer has even had his board DESTROYED, and he has the ABILITY to create ANOTHER one, just like that, yes, the Surfer is that baddass, they turned him into a weakling in this movie...ARGH!!! And then gets interrogated and tortured by a measly puny human??? GET THE F*** OUTTA HERE WITH THAT ONE, LOL!!!

...and then Doom, who's the absolute WORST villain to EVER hit the silver screen, gets hold of the board, lol, and THEN, Johnny Storm aborbs all the Fantastic Four's COMBINED powers AND DUKES IT OUT WITH DOOM...LOL!

OH MY GOD ALMIGHTY!!!

I still can't believe it, I'm afraid I'll have to see it with my own eyes because I can't believe Kingdom Warrior's words, lol.

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[The Bat]

It's such a shame...seeing Marvel's 1st Family treated so badly.:cry: Why didn't they luck out, and get some talent involved like...Brian Singer, Chris Nolan, or Sam Rami? It just makes Me sad.:ugh:


THIS....is the reason Marvel formed Thier New Movie Company...to makes sure They have creative control over the rest of thier Propertie's.


Massawyrm Review: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33014

[Hector]

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[The Toyroom]

Haven't seen it yet but I wasn't too impressed with the 1st one so I figured it could only go donwhill from there. I had heard Galactus was some kind of space cloud. Obviously they didn't ant to put the cash into a CGI-Galactus OR they thought a giant humanoid who consumes planets was too weird for the mainstream audience. And Doom's in this one too? He sucked in the last one!

[Customslab]

It's such a shame...seeing Marvel's 1st Family treated so badly.:cry: Why didn't they luck out, and get some talent involved like...Brian Singer, Chris Nolan, or Sam Rami? It just makes Me sad.:ugh:


THIS....is the reason Marvel formed Thier New Movie Company...to makes sure They have creative control over the rest of thier Propertie's.


Massawyrm Review: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33014

imo singer shouldn't ever direct even a 4th grade play about superheros i read where he said he never read any comics as a kind and really didn't like superheros and after seeing sup return it showed just imo

[Megospidey]

If you haven't read the comic book series, the movie is fine. My two boys (12 and 7) loved it. Silver surfer is cool - some of the best cgi in my opinion to come out in a while. The story is bleh.

For the Marvel purist, don't see it. There's too much flash and not enough substance. And yes....Galactus is nothing like the comic book.

[GeneralApeGuy]

Thanks for let me know about that. It's really sucks!

I hope the Fantastic Four fans report that to the movie company to fix that crap or create a better new one for us and then delete that bad movie......

I click that link and I noticed there's a Dixie man sit the toilet seat and show a big green right hand finger with shotgun that's TOO funny, LOL!!! :smiley1:

[danadoll]

Thank you for the spoilers, Hector...I was very hesitant to see this movie (now I don't have to), because I thought the first was awful....I sat through the whole thing cringing.

Dana

[Hector]

It was my civic duty.

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I hope the Fantastic Four fans report that to the movie company to fix that crap or create a better new one for us and then delete that bad movie......



It's not gonna happen if it makes a ton of money.

[saildog]

It's not gonna happen if it makes a ton of money.

That's my dilemma, Hector. It wasn't the worst Comic Movie EVER (and I definitely want them to make more and more Comic Movies), but how does one balance being supportive but not being supportive of crap?

I'm just afraid if I don't go, we will never get the Avengers Movie I dream of (and even if we do, what if it is crap?).

[mego boy CA]

still gotta watch it for my peace of mind.

[Hector]

I know, there's still a ton of movies to be made, Avengers as you said, Thor as in your avatar, Sub-Mariner, Captain America, etc...oh yeah, some DC ones too, lol.
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still gotta watch it for my peace of mind.

Yeah me too, I'm going to watch it this Monday.

:cry: :juggleyes_y: :smiley1:

[saildog]

I know, there's still a ton of movies to be made, Avengers as you said, Thor as in your avatar, Sub-Mariner, Captain America, etc...oh yeah, some DC ones too, lol.


Oh, man.........my worst nightmare is that they will make a Thor movie (or an Avengers with Thor, of course) and it is crap.

It's like "what if you jumped out of an airplane and your chute failed..... but there was a nice big pile of hay to break your fall." Well, that would be cool wouldn't it?

It would be cool....unless there was a big pitch fork stuck in the pile of hay and you impaled yourself on it.

[Hector]

:smiley1:

[The Bat]

imo singer shouldn't ever direct even a 4th grade play about superheros i read where he said he never read any comics as a kind and really didn't like superheros and after seeing sup return it showed just imo



So...You didn't like X-Men 1 & 2 ?:huh: And I liked "Superman Returns"...but it did suffer the usual problem's of an Origin Story...re-establishing the Character's. The next one WILL be better.


P.S. Singer may not have known much about the X-Men to begin with...but He did His Home work and read all the back Issue's. The Proof is He put out two AWESOME X-Men Movie's! Of Course...a lot of credit should go to Tom Desanto, as His Executive Producer...for keeping Him on track...and Faithful to the essence of the Character's.

[kingdom warrior]

LOL! I see Hector couldn't contain himself.....I'll say it again if you've never ever heard of the FF and the great Story that Stan and Jack created you will think it's a silly movie that the kids will love but if you are a Hardcore FF fan like me and Hector you will want to throw poop at the idiots who treated Marvel's first Family like this...

The Silver Surfer is Marvels most Badass Character and I believe he can beat the tar out of Superman and this is what we get.I knew this Franchise was going to be bad when they decided to put The Thing in a suit I wanted CGI but no..That should have been the hint.Not even Jessica Alba as eye candy saves this giant turd of a movie.

No Galactus, No Watcher, No Ultimate Nulifier, Doom is Horrible Doctor Doom is one of Marvels Greatest Villans and In these movies all I kept saying is that's not Dr.Doom.....and there's this one scene were the Surfer is getting tortured I sat there and was like ***? BS!!!!! that would never happen lol! The Galactus no show is like you waiting for a Hot Blonde with Big Boobies and she is just about to strip and she turns the lights off at the last minute lol!:grin: what a let down! Ok I know that was extreme I needed to make myself laugh....

No one should worry about if they don't go see this other movies won't be made.....The marvel movie machine is in place and is cranking.

This years Marvel movies are batting Zero hopefully they will see the faults and fix them before their audience decides they've had enough.

[megowgsh]

Couldn't disagree with you more on this one.

Totally exceeded my expectations.

Heads and shoulders better than the first.

The Silver Surfer was PHENOMENAL!!!

The interaction between the four was very good, especially with the ferriss wheel.

Loved Johnny with all four powers.

Loved seeing Doom on the surf board even more!

This movie hit a home run in my opinion. Better than S3. Better than most super-hero movies.

I was thoroughly pleased.:biggrin:

Even Daremo liked this movie and he is very hard to please when it comes to super hero movies.:biggrin:

[Hector]

LOL! I see Hector couldn't contain himself.....I'll say it again if you've never ever heard of the FF and the great Story that Stan and Jack created you will think it's a silly movie that the kids will love but if you are a Hardcore FF fan like me and Hector you will want to throw poop at the idiots who treated Marvel's first Family like this...

The Silver Surfer is Marvels most Badass Character and I believe he can beat the tar out of Superman and this is what we get.I knew this Franchise was going to be bad when they decided to put The Thing in a suit I wanted CGI but no..That should have been the hint.Not even Jessica Alba as eye candy saves this giant turd of a movie.

No Galactus, No Watcher, No Ultimate Nulifier, Doom is Horrible Doctor Doom is one of Marvels Greatest Villans and In these movies all I kept saying is that's not Dr.Doom.....and there's this one scene were the Surfer is getting tortured I sat there and was like ***? BS!!!!! that would never happen lol! The Galactus no show is like you waiting for a Hot Blonde with Big Boobies and she is just about to strip and she turns the lights off at the last minute lol!:grin: what a let down! Ok I know that was extreme I needed to make myself laugh....

No one should worry about if they don't go see this other movies won't be made.....The marvel movie machine is in place and is cranking.

This years Marvel movies are batting Zero hopefully they will see the faults and fix them before their audience decides they've had enough.

Well said and amen.

:sunny_y:
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LOL! I see Hector couldn't contain himself....

I can't help myself, lol.

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[Earth 2 Chris]

I REALLY liked this movie. I liked it better than Spider-Man 3. There. I said it.

Since Spidey 3 was the BIG super hero movie this year, and was hyped to death, I'm going to use it to defend FF2, which I think is getting a real bum rap from just about everyone.

As a whole the movie hung together and showed more respect for the source material than Spidey 3 did. Don't get me wrong, I LIKED Spidey 3. BUT, there were several serious missteps taken in that movie. Sandman being Uncle Ben's killer being number one, "evil" Peter's jazz club fiasco being number two. Spidey 3 did a better job of juggling all the characters and plotlines better than I thought it would, but it still was pretty disjointed at times. And despite all that was going on, it did drag a bit in parts. The pacing was off.

Now on to FF2. Yes, Galactus was a cloud (I'll get back to that) BUT, all the characters were true to their comic portrayls, and no major changes were made to them. Sure, Doom wasn't still quite Doom, but he was a ton better than last time. Grufford's Reed should have shut up everyone who griped about his wishy-washiness last time. Johnny was still funny, but less of a jerk, and actually learned a thing or two. Ben was happy enough with himself not to whine about being human throughout the whole picture, despite the fact that he had the opportunity over and over. And Sue shone as she should, as the heart of the FF. The pacing was well done, with plenty of character fun and insightful character moments, but still lots of action and drama to keep things building to the finale.

Now, onto Galactus as a cloud. I love KIRBY. Love just about everything the man ever did. Kirby's Galactus design kicked butt on the drawn, inked comic page. But a big dude with a tuning fork helmet would have had the non-comic readers rolling in the aisle. And guess what, we're in the minority. Just look at Marvels. Alex Ross painted the hell out of that book, giving us a living, breathing look at what the real Marvel U would look like. Almost everyone looked great, but I hate to say it, his Galactus looked like his buddy in a cardboard tuning fork helmet. THAT is what Galactus would have looked like on screen, more than likely, if they'd stuck to the comics.

FF2 took no more liberties than every other super hero movie before it, and far less than many. It captured the spirit of not only the FF, but the Surfer, and several of the early Surfer/Galactus storylines. And it was a fun, cohesive movie. My kid never fidgeted, or looked away from the screen. I can't say that about Spidey 3.

I think in the end, Spidey 3 somehow lost a lot the heart that the first two movies had in abundance. Maybe it was because Raimi was talked into the whole black suit/Venom plot, which ended up dominating the movie. FF2 had that same kind of heart in spades I think. My whole family had a great time.

Chris

[Hector]

Chris, now you are convincing me that it's not that bad of a movie, man, I have to go this Monday and see who's more dead on here, lol.

[The Bat]

I already know I won't being seeing this Movie...I will not even rent it.:ugh_y:

[Bizarro Amy]

I'm not a big enough FF fan to get really angry about this movie, so I will still probably go see it at the cheap theater. I thought the idea of the fusing their powers sounded kind of cool. But what ticked me off is that they showed it in the commercials. I understand that they have to show some clips to get people interested, but not one that is such a major plot point! I actually started reading the occasional FF story just because I think Doctor Doom is cool. The movie version is just plain crap. I can deal with the guy they chose to play him, he pulls off good-looking and vain off well enough, but I always picture him with an accent. And in the stories I read, Doom referred to himself in the 3rd person from time to time, which I thought was fun. What happened to that? And I've also heard that in this movie he rarely wears his mask and cloak. That pretty much kills it for me.

[JDeRouen]

I REALLY liked this movie. I liked it better than Spider-Man 3. There. I said it.

You actually took the words right out of my mouth. But, thankfully, I have more words where those came from. :grin:

We (my wife, my son, and I) just got back from seeing Fantastic Four II and really enjoyed it. Sure, there were some silly bits - Surfer's power being tied into his board, for one - but I can live with them.

Galactus as a cloud sound silly in print, but it worked well enough on screen. It made him kind of unknowable, untouchable, a mysterious being that didn't want nor need to interact with humanity, and it worked for me. (Though I half-expected to see a vague outline of his face in the cloud as Surfer flew into it - not sure if I'm happy or disappointed that the face wasn't there.)

At just 89 minutes long, it left me wanting more. I can't say the same thing about Spider-Man 3. And I'd rather walk out of the theater wanting more than wishing I could get back the last two and a half hours of my life.

Joe

[kingdom warrior]

For anyone who doesn't think Galactus would not have translated well on the big screen this is from Ultimate Alliance game Looks like he translates well to me I'm sure with better designers and a little effort they would have pulled it off sorry not having a physical Galactus was a cop out!

http://kungfurodeo.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/galactus_head.jpg

[JDeRouen]

He does look good, but there is still a big difference between seeing something on a video game and on a movie screen. Regardless, like I said, the cloud worked for me.

[kingdom warrior]

Hey Joe I understand what you mean...It's just me sorry don't mean to get at anyones goat :grin:

[Boris71]

I think that the screen writter watched some of the older marvel action hour fantastic four cartoons because doom stole the surfers powers by stealing his board and the surfer lost his galactic glaze, it wasn't till the latter FF cartoons that the watcher gave them the ultimate nullifer, and in the Surfer cartoon he often had his powers drained

In a comic he can be invincable but in a 90min movie or 12 episode cartoon series he has to be vunerable, and I think due to the long run of comics and a movie you have to mix elements from diffrent surfer stories to get a good coverage as some people like the classic some the more modern versions.

The movie is just trying to appeal to a wide audience and I think people need to be a little less harsh on stuff just because it didn't live up to what they wanted/expected it to be.

I wanted to see nova, galactus, and the surfer banished to earth, and it would have been easy to introduce the superskrull as a creature sent to stop galactus and stole the FFs powers. But to me I was entertained for 90 mins and me and my GF loved every minuite of it yesterday, we are thinking of taking the kids to see it and I will be more than happy to see it a second time infact if I had time and another £10 on me I would have gone to see the 12:30 show that was just starting.

I think non comic fans will enjoy this more than spider-man X-men or daredevil and they are a massive part of the audience, and when they do a good adaptaion of a comic character like manthin it ends up straight to dvd the same as the old doctor strange movie did.

[Earth 2 Chris]

For anyone who doesn't think Galactus would not have translated well on the big screen this is from Ultimate Alliance game Looks like he translates well to me I'm sure with better designers and a little effort they would have pulled it off sorry not having a physical Galactus was a cop out!





Galactus does indeed look cool here, but I'm with Joe in thinking what works on a vid game doesn't necessarily translate to the big screen. The look of Galactus may have worked, but him physically interacting with the Surfer and the FF would not have worked for the public like the giant cloud. With recent events like the tsunami and Katrina, an unstoppable, unreachable force of nature just has more impact than a giant dude in purple.

Chris

[ctc]

>Kirby's Galactus design kicked butt on the drawn, inked comic page. But a big dude with a tuning fork helmet would have had the non-comic readers rolling in the aisle.

Y'know.... if the audience can buy a bald chrome guy in his underwear with a surfboard; a giant dude with a tuning fork on his head might not be too tough to accept.....

Don C.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Y'know.... if the audience can buy a bald chrome guy in his underwear with a surfboard; a giant dude with a tuning fork on his head might not be too tough to accept.....

Well, see they ditched the underwear, like most modern versions of the Surfer in comics. The underwear would have blown it for everyone.:)

Chris

[Alberto Malnati]

GOSH! didn't see it yet...but already the first one was so a bad experience!
how they can take a genial character as doom and make him just a sort of wall street manager...? why Stan Lee didn't follow the production as for the spider man's movies?
incredible missed occasion to make a good movie
ciao
Al:cry::cry::cry:

[Cosmicman]

GOSH! didn't see it yet...but already the first one was so a bad experience!
how they can take a genial character as doom and make him just a sort of wall street manager...? why Stan Lee didn't follow the production as for the spider man's movies?
incredible missed occasion to make a good movie
ciao
Al:cry::cry::cry:

Because Stan Lee has become a corporate *****. If he wants to see or earn any type of money for the use or likeness of his characters. He basically has no choice but to sit back and shut up or take a hike. It's sad because Stan Lee should have complete control over the entire movie or character use. Unfortunately Stan has hardly any say about the big screen when it comes to his characters. It's really sad. If anyone deserves anything it would be him. He is a major childhood influence on me. I have a couple of books he signed for me. He is a great guy.

[JDeRouen]

One thing I didn't like (same goes for Spidey 3) was the Stan Lee cameo. I mean, he even tells us his name! I liked the cameo from the original Spider-Man movie - blink and you miss it. They kinda hit us over the head with it this time, both in FF 2 and Spidey 3.

[The Sentry]

That's my dilemma, Hector. It wasn't the worst Comic Movie EVER (and I definitely want them to make more and more Comic Movies), but how does one balance being supportive but not being supportive of crap?

I'm just afraid if I don't go, we will never get the Avengers Movie I dream of (and even if we do, what if it is crap?).


Oh God no! Perish the thought!

I have learned that the best comic bok movies are the ones Frank Miller has his hands on. Plain and simple.

Marvel lets me down as far as movies go, they want a film that gerneral people will go and see. The movie franchises don't really reflect what we want to see, they have us (comic readers) buying the comics for that.

Only reason I would go see it is cause my Ma wants to see SS on the screen (he's her favorite charater)

[toys2cool]

I just saw it,and man I have to say i really liked it,That silver surfer was out of hand.It was no where as bad as part one.I'd watch it again for sure:grin:

[VintageMike]

I just saw it today and have to say I think it's getting a bad rap. maybe spillover from the firts one being a bit lame. But I thought this very good. I agree with a previous poster in that things need to be done in such a way that it can be wrapped with the movie. It also has to be accessible to people who may not be familair with the comics. Plenty of classic FF style stuff and loved the intro of the Fantasticar! Some comic book concepts require more tweaking than others. I don't think they did anything here that was so terrible.