Fantastic Four movie-what a disapointment

[kingdom warrior]

Just came back from seeing it (yes I was able to get out of work early) If you are a Fan of Stan's and Jack's Trilogy then I'm sorry you will be so disapointed...if you've never ever been exposed to the story then you'll think it's ok maybe your kids will like it

I won't spoil anything but save your money..... and rent it if you want to see it when it comes out.I'll just say this the Hanna Barbera cartoon was much better and truer to Stan and Jack's story......

[Vortigern99]

Oh no!! Say it ain't so!! I was just reading an interview with the screenwriter, a longtime fan of Kirby's FF run, who asserted the film would be true to the original comics. Of course, I knew it would be dumbed down -- they're going for a "kid-friendly" FF here -- but I hoped against hope that the sequel would be a quality product. Oh well.

[Sideshow Spock]

The first one was a silly snorefest, and I barely got thru it on dvd. If anything, all signs I've seen of the sequel point to it being even worse. :muh:

[kingdom warrior]

Oh no!! Say it ain't so!! I was just reading an interview with the screenwriter, a longtime fan of Kirby's FF run, who asserted the film would be true to the original comics. Of course, I knew it would be dumbed down -- they're going for a "kid-friendly" FF here -- but I hoped against hope that the sequel would be a quality product. Oh well.

It's so..... if you want to read the reviews here they are

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fantastic_four_2_rise_of_the_silver_surfer/

The screenwriter is not telling the truth it was not a faithful adaptation.

[mitchedwards]

I missed FF at the movies, but watched it on DVD, thought it was OK. Hoping the sequal would improve with age

[palitoy]

I took my kid to the first one at the drive in and I will be doing the same thing here, I don't expect much I guess. I found the first one fun but it wouldn't rank in my top anything.

[toys2cool]

D'oh!! I already have my tickets,oh well it can't be worst then the first

[kingdom warrior]

I took my kid to the first one at the drive in and I will be doing the same thing here, I don't expect much I guess. I found the first one fun but it wouldn't rank in my top anything.

The Kids will love it...It's kid friendly and many kids actually don't know the classic story and most boys love the Human Torch I have to go see it again cause my son is a big Human Torch fan.

[thunderbolt]

^^^ is that going to result in a rash of kids dousing themselves in lighter fluid and Flaming on?? :biggrin:

[The Bat]

This is the Review I expected...Tom Rothman as the Producer(hates Comic Book Movie's, and tries to keep budget as low as Possible...hence You won't actually see GALACTUS).Tim Story...BAD Director who has no sense of flow & pace to do Action Movie's. And a Crappy Screen Writer.

I never had any hope's for this Movie.:cry:

[Cosmicman]

I have heard from some pretty good comic buffs today. They both agreed, this is the worst super hero movie ever. It is even worse then Hulk when it comes to straying away from original ideas, storyline and character processes.

Well. I guess I won't be going to the theatre to see this one. I will wait for it to come out on DVD. What a shame. They had all that money, all that time and all those graphics to do something really good and make up for the bad first movie and they wound up taking a big hot steamy dump right on the foreheads of everyone who has ever read comic books.

What a rip off!!

[The Bat]

Massawyrm's Review: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33014

[Hector]

Massawyrm's Review: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33014

Now THAT was a FANTASTIC Four review, lol.

:smiley1:

[Surfsup]

I've just come back from watching it. Apart from the dire special effects (apart from the Surfer), gaping holes in the story and a cloud which was called Galactus but looked like a big turd...it was alright.

[The Toyroom]

I took my kid to the first one at the drive in and I will be doing the same thing here, I don't expect much I guess. I found the first one fun but it wouldn't rank in my top anything.

Same here...we saw it at the drive-in with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and stayed for the FF. Wasn't too impressed....I figured it'd be a drive-in movie this time around too.

[Customslab]

as a movie goer it you will like it.... as a comic fan you will not like it

[saildog]

as a movie goer it you will like it.... as a comic fan you will not like it

Pretty much sums up my view. It wasn't all thaaaat bad. Jessica Alba is hot, but she is NOT an actress. Couldn't even tell you who played Reed or Dr. Doom. Johnny and Ben are probably the best part of either movie.

I'd like to read some opinions on supporting Comic Movies (or not supporting Comic Movies)? I want to support anything that comes out so they will keep making more. However, I don't want to support crappy movies. (I guess I want them to think they can make a movie and make money, but I don't want them to think they can just make any piece of crud and fans will be happy.)

In all honesty, how many Comic Movies (with Classic Characters) have EVER been what you would call a "good movie"? Spider-Man 1 & 2, Superman the Movie, X-Men 1 & 2, and Batman Begins, maybe?

I'm not trying to be definitive....only pointing out that overall, Superhero movies are crud (and a good one is an exception), but at least they are cranking SOMETHING out.

[danadoll]

I was disgusted with the first movie...I'm glad I don't have to go and see this monstrosity of a sequel(It'll be a "catch it on cable at some point" movie, at best...I'm not going to waste money even renting it).

I know a lot of you guys think Jessica Alba is hot, hott or hawt...Or whatever, but she's was absolutely terrible in the first one (and she is/was really wrong for the part, in more ways than one). I think she attended the Halle Berry super heroine acting school...Bleh! :ugh_y:

Dana :no:
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Massawyrm's Review: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33014

LMAO! That was great! Too bad the movie wasn't great. :no:

Dana

[saildog]

I have heard from some pretty good comic buffs today. They both agreed, this is the worst super hero movie ever. It is even worse then Hulk when it comes to straying away from original ideas, storyline and character processes.


I agree that it is worse than The Hulk in the sense that it strayed from the original. However, it is far from being the worst Superhero Movie ever. If you think about it, most Superhero movies are bad. In fact, a good one is the exception. It was pretty much right down the middle. There were a few good moments with Ben and Johnny.

[jemboy2004]

I like the fact that it's easy to follow, My godson is gonna love it when I take him next week! I seen it and I agree it's not the best super hero movie but the kids are gonna really like it and to me that is Important when it comes to superhero movies.

Think when you were a kid you loved Batman the series but man watching it today is so strange to me. I feel the same way about the 70s WW too... I remember it so differently from being a kid.. I think kids will see FF the way we used to see batman ther series and WW 70s show.

[Hector]

Couldn't even tell you who played Reed

Actually Ioan Gruffudd is an excellent Welsh actor who was best known (until the FF films) as Horatio Hornblower of the Hornblower miniseries, he's really good, a classically trained thespian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioan_Gruffudd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornblower_%28TV_series%29
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I know a lot of you guys think Jessica Alba is hot, hott or hawt...Or whatever, but she's was absolutely terrible in the first one (and she is/was really wrong for the part, in more ways than one). I think she attended the Halle Berry super heroine acting school.

I think she IS indeed hot, however, she's just not right for the part.

I mean, out of TRILLIONS of blondes in the Los Angeles area, they went ahead and cast a brunette for the part of naturally blonde Sue Richards, lol.

Logic working at its best right there.

:smiley1:

[The Bat]

Sue Storm should have been played by Charlise Theron.

[Sideshow Spock]

Theron is an A-lister who commands at least 10M for mainstream roles. The studio chose to go with a much cheaper cast for these films.

[kingdom warrior]

I mean, out of TRILLIONS of blondes in the Los Angeles area, they went ahead and cast a brunette for the part of naturally blonde Sue Richards, lol.

:smiley1:[/QUOTE]
Yeah where was Jenna Jameson? I mean Jeez the movie was going to suck anyway lol! :grin:

Ahhh the Good old days of Porn when we would have had The F***tastic Four lol!:firedevil:

[MegoScott]

I'm sad to hear this was so bad. I was hoping for a turnaround. I love the Surfer/Galactus saga. But I know if Mick LaSalle, the SF Chronicle reviewer says it's the best movie of the season it must be a huge pile of crap.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/14/DDGEQQEEK513.DTL&type=movies

[phil]

I feel like the odd man out here. I did like but then I wasn't expecting much.
Despite what I read about the movie before hand I never believed it would be faithful to the original Silver Surfer/Galactus movie.

The movie is not perfect but I did find it less predictable than Spiderman 3.

[megowgsh]

Totally exceeded my expectations.

Heads and shoulders better than the first.

The Silver Surfer was PHENOMENAL!!!

The interaction between the four was very good, especially with the ferriss wheel.

Loved Johnny with all four powers.

Loved seeing Doom on the surf board even more!

This movie hit a home run in my opinion. Better than S3. Better than most super-hero movies.

I was thoroughly pleased.:biggrin:

[Hector]

I'm sad to hear this was so bad. I was hoping for a turnaround. I love the Surfer/Galactus saga. But I know if Mick LaSalle, the SF Chronicle reviewer says it's the best movie of the season it must be a huge pile of crap.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/14/DDGEQQEEK513.DTL&type=movies

I subscribe to the SF Chronicle and I read LaSalle's bloody movie reviews every Friday, I can't stand him, he's always dead wrong, at least for me, we have totally complete opposite tastes.

:smiley1:
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Sue Storm should have been played by Charlise Theron.

Like Histrionic Spock said, Theron is an A-list star, too expensive, and also she would've towered over everyone there, she's a bloody six-footer, imagine her walking side by side with Chiklis (the Thing), lol.

:smiley1:

[Earth 2 Chris]

I posted my thoughts in the thread Hector started. But I REALLY liked this movie. If you haven't seen it, give it a chance. I feel it captured the spirit of the FF comics quite well. Sure there were some changes, but no more than any comic adaptation.

Chris

[garagesale]

I truly do not think it's as bad as everyone has said... and it's SOOOO much bette than the first one. Though I hate the way Reed and Sue are something ENTIRELY different from the comics, Ben and Johnny are passable, I guess.

What I always try to get away from when a superhero movie comes out is expectation of a strict interpretation of the comics. Granted, it's nearly always better to stay as close as possible, but there have been times when departing from dogma has been a better idea than staying with it. The most notable examples have been X-Men's fascinating take on Magneto's origins and Spider-Man's built-in webslinging.

When I see a superhero movie, I do my best to look at it on its own merits. If it has none (like the Hulk movie), I at least try to look at it as a separate text. Granted, FF2 is not a great movie, but it is definitely not the worst. In terms of action and fun, it is superior the lastest Batman, and is at least as good as Van Helsing.

JamesD

[VintageMike]

Reposting this from another thread..

I just saw it today and have to say I think it's getting a bad rap. maybe spillover from the firts one being a bit lame. But I thought this very good. I agree with a previous poster in that things need to be done in such a way that it can be wrapped with the movie. It also has to be accessible to people who may not be familair with the comics. Plenty of classic FF style stuff and loved the intro of the Fantasticar! Some comic book concepts require more tweaking than others. I don't think they did anything here that was so terrible.

[filmation batman fan]

Sorry guys, but I have to repsectfully disagree. I thoroughly loved the Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. I felt it was better than the first movie, but you what? I loved it too. I've always wanted to see the FF in live action and no, not the cheesy, stupid, retarded Roger Corman flick of the early 90's.

The cast did a marvelous job. Gruffud, Alba, Chiklis, and Evans along with the guy who played Dr. Doom had great interaction. There were some great humorous moments along with Stan Lee's cameo. And the Silver Surfer was totally awesome, both physically and by vocal performance by Lawrence Fishburne.

The only complaint I have was not actually seeing Galactus. That royally sucked. But otherwise, it was a great movie and I loved the Fantasticar. And I hope they make a third movie. My vote for worst Super Hero movie is a tie between Hulk and Superman IV: The Quest For Peace.

Cheers.

[Hector]

it is superior the lastest Batman

You are joking, right?

Batman Begins is the best superhero movie ever, period...and this is coming from a Marvel guy.

[thunderbolt]

^^^ what he said, and if FF2 was as good as Van Helsing, that's not saying much.

[huedell]

Hey guys---bump-itty-bump!

I saw it.

Decent movie.

Real good until they had to start wrapping things up
with GALACTUS----too rushed---and/or no real
connection between the audience (us) and the GALACTUS character.

I thought the first one just had a lot of great moments and
no really good plot.

This one had a lot of great moments---and actually had a decent plot
albeit one that fell flat near the end.

[thunderbolt]

Nothing like coming late to the party Hue. the only thing worse than the FF movie is FF2, well that and SUperman 3 :)

[huedell]

Nothing like coming late to the party Hue.

Yeah??? ...I thought I'd give my input--- seems nobody should mind.

I thought FF:ROTSS was fun enough to comment in the positive
(and I surely didn't have the "comic geek" hangups to deal with mentally
as I don't really know the comic's version of this story)
...yet I also wanted to reiterate the wishy-washy "Galactus aspect"
others mentioned here.


the only thing worse than the FF movie is FF2, well that and SUperman 3 :)

SUPERMAN 3 is easily better than both FF movies.

Although I must admit that the interplay between the F4 and DOOM
was better characterization than SUPERMAN III could hope to achieve.

If you think the first FF was better than the 2nd, I think you're
crazy because I don't think the first one's plot had anything to offer---
but I note your opinion regardless.

[thunderbolt]

FF2 really wasted an opportunity with the Silver Surfer and Galactus. And the power switching bit was idiotic. The movie would have been better off Doom-less. Since this appears to be it for this series, wonder if it will eventually get a Hulk and Superman like reboot.

[huedell]

FF2 really wasted an opportunity with the Silver Surfer and Galactus. And the power switching bit was idiotic. The movie would have been better off Doom-less. Since this appears to be it for this series, wonder if it will eventually get a Hulk and Superman like reboot.

I appreciate your summation.

I did read through the thread and noted the gist of the SS/Galactus
disappointment----of course mine was based more on the lack of
character from a REAL minimal standpoint...I mean the movie-goer
never even gets to see real interaction between Galactus and SS---
that would've helped---and taking Doom out probably could've made room
for more of "that"---however, I have to admit----I really like
that take on Doom and the actor who plays him.

To me? At the very least, this is another example of to many villains
pulling a movie apart---which you'd think was something they'd be careful
about knowing they had four main hero characters to begin with.

As far as re-boots go...Hulk---I didn't like the style at all---I was fine
with a complete reimagining (I STILL haven't seen 2008's though)
---however, I hear rumors that certain cast and crew of SR may be involved
in a reboot of Superman and I'd hope the same for F4---the franchises
seemed to really have their hearts in the right places---but they were
biting off more than they could chew at the same time with plot editing
defecincies is how I see it.

I thought the two Nolan-Batman movies had plot problems too---but
obviously not enough to affect you (t-bolt) or the masses.

Sometimes I wonder what the "qualifications" are to "reboot" something.

[huedell]

...Though I hate the way Reed and Sue are something ENTIRELY different from the comics...

I'm not a diehard F4 comics reader---but if I was writing
those two---I would have made Reed 40 or 45 years old
and Sue about 25/27 and played the whole---"distinguished older man
with brains, younger hot chick impressed with older man's brains" angle
rather than having them so close in age.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I still thought this was a better movie than Spider-Man 3 overall. Galactus did disappoint, but other than that, a fun popcorn flick. Spidey 3 had parts that made you squirm in the theater (the Jazz Club scene) and just say "***?" (Sandman kills Uncle Ben). Plus it was just rushed all throughout.

Chris

[huedell]

Yeah---had a good time at SPIDEY 3---but man was that a mess
of a movie---especially after the first two were so solid.

[goldenryan]

well i'm a big fan of the lee-kirby ff. i even liked the cartoon too. and both movies i though were terrible. no direction, bad casting, dr. doom was nothing like doom in the comics which is sad cause i like the actor from nip/tuck. not showing galactus at the end i think was a sham to anyone who would pay to see this stinker. jessica alba looked good but that's not enough to save both movies.

[kingdom warrior]

well i'm a big fan of the lee-kirby ff. i even liked the cartoon too. and both movies i though were terrible. no direction, bad casting, dr. doom was nothing like doom in the comics which is sad cause i like the actor from nip/tuck. not showing galactus at the end i think was a sham to anyone who would pay to see this stinker. jessica alba looked good but that's not enough to save both movies.

Yup!! feel the Same!!! Reboot this movie series!!!! Cast The Actors Correctly Please!!!! Older Reed, A Real Blonde for Sue and NO Thing in a Costume!!!!! It sucks!!! I'd Rather have a CG Thing!!! then in the future you could have a Hulk FF crossover like in the comics. The guy who played Johnny Storm (and Jessica in the tight outfit) was actually the best things from the movies.

and How do you make Dr.Doom one of the most badass villans in the marvel Universe freekin annoying!!!

The Mistake was rushing the second movie and not doing the Galactus trilogy correctly. making Galactus a cloud *** was that all about? and no Watcher was a slap in the face to Hardcore FF fans like myself.

[Cosmicman]

When Jessica Alba was at the MTV Movie Awards she called Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer the best family/comedy of the summer. That alone should spell disaster for a superhero film.