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toys2cool
May 18, '08, 12:22 PM
I saw it yesterday and it was alright for me,I honestly thought part 1 was better ...what did you guys think? :grin:

Seeker
May 18, '08, 1:19 PM
My oldest daughter saw it and she agrees with you. #1 was better.

toys2cool
May 18, '08, 1:29 PM
I wonder if she had the same issues as me,I don't want to spoil it for anyone so I'll wait a while and post it later :grin:

BlackKnight
May 18, '08, 2:20 PM
I'm holding out for Indi Next week. :grin:
Nardia's a DVD for me.

toys2cool
May 18, '08, 2:33 PM
I'm holding out for Indi Next week. :grin:
Nardia's a DVD for me.

yeah,don't get me wrong it's still good and worth watching,just don't expect anything out of this world.I'll still buy it on DVD though :grin:

BlackKnight
May 18, '08, 3:08 PM
^^^ Yeah,.. I tend to enjoy Movies like this,.. or LOTR or Movies like American Gangster more at home rather than at the Theater. There's always so Much going on,.. or a real deep Story inwhich I like to get envolved with while no one's around. It Maintains my Focus Better.... That,.. & up here they Put Nardia in the Kiddie Theater,.. & I don't wanna put up with that. :wink_y: :grin:

huedell
May 18, '08, 3:08 PM
I thought it was MUCH better than the first one---but my whole take on these
movies is convoluted by real life events. If you'd like you can call me any time to
discuss THOSE--but for now I'll just say that CASPIAN was funnier, more exciting
and overall a more fun movie than the first one.

Hector
May 18, '08, 4:07 PM
DVD or cable.

Bo8a_Fett
May 18, '08, 11:35 PM
Lion is actually the 2nd book in a series of 7 and Caspian is the 4th (i think)...the BBC did much the same as the film versions as in Lion then Caspian...and jolly good they were too. wasn't too impressed with the film and therefore Caspian will be dvd only for the kids.

huedell
May 19, '08, 12:58 AM
Lion is actually the 2nd book in a series of 7 and Caspian is the 4th (i think)....

Depends on what context you wanna take...publishing or chronological--
and even THEN it gets screwy because AHAHB takes place actually DURING TLTW&TW

Better off just calling TLTW&TW the "first" and CASPIAN the "second" for the
sake of this conversation....it IS about the movies after all.

Incidentally, you liked the BBC Caspian? I have some misgivings about
this new movie but the BBC versionb was unwatchable---a guy dressed
up in a mouse suit playing Reep? C'mon---

Adam West
May 19, '08, 8:08 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie even though I never read the book.

It is one of those movies you can enjoy on many different levels whether it's just an epic adventure or digging below the surface to understand who or what the characters represent.

Flynne
May 19, '08, 9:31 AM
Lion is actually the 2nd book in a series of 7 and Caspian is the 4th (i think)...the BBC did much the same as the film versions as in Lion then Caspian...and jolly good they were too. wasn't too impressed with the film and therefore Caspian will be dvd only for the kids.
Actually, the films are being released in the order that the books were originally released. "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" was released first, "Prince Caspian" was released second, and "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" was released third and is next up on the production list.

The books were reordered after C.S. Lewis death by Lewis's stepson, Douglas Gresham, somewhere in the early 90's I think (I managed a bookstore at the time). While it's true that C.S. Lewis did correspond with a child who thought the books should be read in order of Narnian history (as they are now), it's also true that C.S. Lewis never even numbered the books, much less authorized the changing of the order of the series. It's always a shame when the author's estate monkeys with the author's work after he or she has passed on and cannot protest (I'm looking at you, Christopher Tolkien!).

As for the movie, I liked it though they once again excel at widening the subtext by sacrificing the primary text, which is odd given the brevity of words used by C.S. Lewis. The ending of the book is a joyous celebration (almost a Bachinalia), but the film's ending had none of that and instead focused on the dour and gloomy. Also, I've always pictured Caspian as more of a young Henry IV and less Ingino Montoya from "The Princess Bride" (was anyone else waiting for "You killed my father! Prepare to die!!"?), but to each thier own. On the whole though it was quite entertaining and well worth seeing.

spaceace35
May 19, '08, 9:34 AM
might watch it tonight
never could understand the ordering
i have a used bookstore and the numbers are different depending on the version

toys2cool
May 19, '08, 9:55 AM
Actually, the films are being released in the order that the books were originally released. "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" was released first, "Prince Caspian" was released second, and "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" was released third and is next up on the production list.

The books were reordered after C.S. Lewis death by Lewis's stepson, Douglas Gresham, somewhere in the early 90's I think (I managed a bookstore at the time). While it's true that C.S. Lewis did correspond with a child who thought the books should be read in order of Narnian history (as they are now), it's also true that C.S. Lewis never even numbered the books, much less authorized the changing of the order of the series. It's always a shame when the author's estate monkeys with the author's work after he or she has passed on and cannot protest (I'm looking at you, Christopher Tolkien!).

As for the movie, I liked it though they once again excel at widening the subtext by sacrificing the primary text, which is odd given the brevity of words used by C.S. Lewis. The ending of the book is a joyous celebration (almost a Bachinalia), but the film's ending had none of that and instead focused on the dour and gloomy. Also, I've always pictured Caspian as more of a young Henry IV and less Ingino Montoya from "The Princess Bride" (was anyone else waiting for "You killed my father! Prepare to die!!"?), but to each thier own. On the whole though it was quite entertaining and well worth seeing.

LMAO!! hahahahaha!! OMG I told my wife the same thing,I was like man Caspian sounds like Montoya :smiley1:

Adam West
May 19, '08, 9:55 AM
I never read the book but have read some of C.S. Lewis's other books...but won't refer to them since they are more about his religious conversion so it was interesting to catch a glimpse into what was beneath the surface in that context and the WWII setting.

It did have a bit of tragic Shakespearian feel to it which I enjoyed. I have come to better appreciate his writing as well as J.R. Tolkien, J.K. Rowling, etc. as an adult and really try to understand some of the more subtle and not so subtle message about what the author is trying to convey. I have found that understanding something about the author themselves, how they feel about various issues, their own personal experiences are adopted into these epic stories that seem to transcend generations.

My oldest son finally finished the Hobbit and loved it even after seeing the entire LOTR trilogy and is really looking forward to seeing the movie. He is starting to understand that books are not just a horrifying thing but send a lot of powerful messages.

He has started to read "Lord of the Flies" based on my suggestion of what I thought he would like since he's a huge fan of Lost and I think he would thoroughly enjoy the book and since I have read it multiple times myself, I can ask him questions that are less surface level and see what he thinks the author was trying to say about society with no rules or boundaries and whether or not moral codes are inborn traits are something that needs to be learned. It will be a really good book to try to draw him out of just reading a story but really try to think about the underpinnings of the book

Vortigern99
May 19, '08, 11:21 AM
The set of books my wife and I have was printed when the first Narnia film came out, and so they're numbered funny. Last night I put them in order according to their publication dates, so it goes: 2, 4, 5, 6, 3, 1, 7. Kind of a George Lucas prequel thing going on.

huedell
May 19, '08, 3:31 PM
LMAO!! hahahahaha!! OMG I told my wife the same thing,I was like man Caspian sounds like Montoya :smiley1:

Its not a coinicidence. The actor has been quoted in interviews admitting
that he used Patankin's (Inigo's) accent as inspiration.

Good choice, considering its like "free momentum" for the character's
backstory due to the fact that PRINCESS BRIDE is kinda ingrained in
the public's consciousness.

huedell
May 19, '08, 3:33 PM
The set of books my wife and I have was printed when the first Narnia film came out, and so they're numbered funny. Last night I put them in order according to their publication dates, so it goes: 2, 4, 5, 6, 3, 1, 7. Kind of a George Lucas prequel thing going on.

He was working on the books all at the same time in most cases---
and, therefore, in many cases the reason for their release order
was "just when Lewis was ready" (with one of the stories being completed)

garagesale
May 20, '08, 6:25 AM
The chronological order of the books:

The Magician's Nephew (6th book)
The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe (1st book)
The Horse and His Boy (5th book)
Prince Caspian (2nd book)
Voyage of the Dawn Treader (3rd book)
The Silver Chair (4th book)
The Last Battle (7th book)

You can read 'em in almost any order, though. Lewis was an anti-Modernist, but reading his books is a totally postmodern experience in some ways. Almost like Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse 5 in some ways.

The movie was OK. An hour of unneccessary exposition. Characters from the book that should have been left out (IMHO). Gets fun after that first hour. A must for fans of the the book and scholars (but even the BBC versions meet that criteria). Go see Iron Man again and wait for this'n on DVD!

Hope the box office and unenthusiastic reviews of PC don't threaten to truncate this franchise!

JamesD

huedell
May 20, '08, 10:36 AM
The movie was OK. An hour of unneccessary exposition.
Really? That's odd---as I felt it was weird that they cut out Caspian's whole childhood
as well as the intimate teacher/student relationship he had with Cornelius (who was in
the movie too LITTLE as far as I was concerned--so with that in mind, i don't really
agree with the "they coulda cut more characters" mindset either--along with
the view on "too much exposition")


Hope the box office and unenthusiastic reviews of PC don't threaten to truncate this franchise!

It still has a "fresh" rating on rotten tomatoes---so the critics aren't the real problem
here---its that "box office" you speak of. If THAT peters out--it may hurt the franchise
somewhat--altho' I don't think anything less than a total bomb will freeze up this next
NARNIA movie already in production (DAWN TREADER)---and it looks like the "bomb"
aspect has already been avoided.

toys2cool
May 20, '08, 10:44 AM
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What really got to me a little was that the lion and the Witch only showed up for like 2 minutes in the movie,it seemed like the whole time you were expecting him to finally pop up.I know it's stupid but I was a little disappointed by that :embarassed:

Adam West
May 20, '08, 12:35 PM
The Witch isn't the villain in this movie....as for the Lion, I thought the amount of time in the movie was appropriate given the story line.

Vortigern99
May 20, '08, 11:03 PM
I just came back from seeing and I LOVED IT. It's my new favorite film of the summer so far! It's more essentially heroic than the LW&W, with its castle-storming and single combat, but it retains those magical, "kid-friendly" elements of Faerie that were so charming in the first movie. The setting is still fantastic and otherworldly, yet it seems very real, more realistic than the LW&W, with nice touches (like consistent facial scarring after battles) that just put you right into the world of Narnia, as though it's really happening and you're just watching it all unfold. The characters seem alive and human -- even the dwarfs and the centaurs! -- and the moments of loss feel genuinely poignant, not strained or over-the-top like some moments in the LOTR films. All in all this could be the best film of its genre ever made IMHO, though I'll have to see it several more times before I can cement that opinion. And I certainly will be seeing it again -- many many times! This is a classic I can cherish for years. :heart: :grin: :cool_y:

huedell
May 21, '08, 1:13 AM
Its nice to hear someone enjoy the movie so much Vort---

I'm pretty much in a haze regarding the "actual" quality of these
NARNIA movies---

It hits too close to home for me spiritually---it's not what you think either--
when I say "spiritually" it's more than just a "Christian" thing--
-See, I grew up hardcore with the books and then went thru
some weird experiences regarding them---

Anyway, one thing I know for sure is that I think this new CASPIAN movie
was a much better watching experience for me than the first LW&TW one
---it seemed "more" of every good thing----more fun---more funny--
-more natural (for Narnia, as you pointed out), more interesting--
-and just more engaging overall---

is it a "great" movie-???--"great" as in "LOTR" "everyone loves it" great?

probably not---but since I have no big connection to LOTR---I'll just
stick with Narnia for now---just as I'm sticking with Indy Jones over Iron Man