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shornk
Jun 9, '18, 11:33 AM
Hi,

Had a long hiatus taking care of kids and parent - in laws. Could someone point me to a set of scans for mego and dida star trek bridge display scans? I want to print some backgrounds for my instagram photos.

Thanks in advance.

Liu Bei
Jul 14, '18, 11:49 AM
Hi,

Had a long hiatus taking care of kids and parent - in laws. Could someone point me to a set of scans for mego and dida star trek bridge display scans? I want to print some backgrounds for my instagram photos.

Thanks in advance.

Let me know if you get a response. I've been looking for Dida scans for ages without luck.

Capt_Kirk
Aug 15, '18, 10:42 AM
Let me know if you get a response. I've been looking for Dida scans for ages without luck.

bummer, Crickets. I was hoping someone would put up a link for these

Mego Magyar
Aug 16, '18, 3:27 PM
I got Mego bridge recently that was in ad shape and thought about cutting it up to scan the walls but it cleaned up/fixed up so nice that I hate the thought of destroying it now

Mego Magyar
Aug 16, '18, 3:30 PM
As for the Dida artwork, it's not really up to someone that might have some of it to share without permission.

Capt_Kirk
Aug 17, '18, 6:39 AM
As for the Dida artwork, it's not really up to someone that might have some of it to share without permission.

Good point. I didn't think about that. I'm bad. sorry

LordMudd
Aug 17, '18, 9:02 AM
As for the Dida artwork, it's not really up to someone that might have some of it to share without permission.

You are referring to intellectual property rights that protect a persons creations, however, once that property item is sold, it is the right of the purchaser to do as they please with it.


CCC.

palitoy
Aug 17, '18, 9:05 AM
You are referring to intellectual property rights that protect a persons creations, however, once that property item is sold, it is the right of the purchaser to do as they please with it.


CCC.

That is incorrect, purchasing a copy of artwork does not grant you the rights to reproduce and distribute it.

If the Dida artwork becomes available for free download, that is 100% the choice of the creator.

generic
Aug 17, '18, 12:36 PM
You are referring to intellectual property rights that protect a persons creations, however, once that property item is sold, it is the right of the purchaser to do as they please with it.

CCC.

I don't mean to start anything here, but just for the sake of clearing up misinformation, your statement is not correct...unless you mean that if someone sells the ownership of the copyrights or trademark, the new owner can do what they want with it. If someone just purchases one of an item, they do not have any rights to copy and distribute it. A similar comparison would be that if you buy an album or DVD, you can not legally burn all the copies you want or upload all the songs online to distribute yourself. Despite the fact that people do this constantly to the financial detriment of the creators, it is not legal or moral.

LordMudd
Aug 17, '18, 2:07 PM
I don't mean to start anything here, but just for the sake of clearing up misinformation, your statement is not correct...unless you mean that if someone sells the ownership of the copyrights or trademark, the new owner can do what they want with it. If someone just purchases one of an item, they do not have any rights to copy and distribute it. A similar comparison would be that if you buy an album or DVD, you can not legally burn all the copies you want or upload all the songs online to distribute yourself. Despite the fact that people do this constantly to the financial detriment of the creators, it is not legal or moral.

If a person creates a piece of artwork, which is what a Dida scan is, and then sells it to another person, that person may then do whatever he wants with it, even though upon it's creation it was an intellectual property. That person can scan it, copy it, hang it, fold it, cut it, resell it, shred it, burn it, or leave it out on the side of the road until mother nature reclaims it, as happened with the hand-painted billboard my mother create for Rosewood Funeral Home many years ago. She was a professional artist, but once she sold that work to them, she no longer had any say in what was done with it. If someone on here has a Dida Trek scan they are willing to share with the author of this thread, they are free to do so because they paid for it and they own it. Furthermore, if they do not profit from the act, it is virtually impossible to successfully prosecute them for it.


CCC.

palitoy
Aug 17, '18, 2:29 PM
If a person creates a piece of artwork, which is what a Dida scan is, and then sells it to another person, that person may then do whatever he wants with it, even though upon it's creation it was an intellectual property. That person can scan it, copy it, hang it, fold it, cut it, resell it, shred it, burn it, or leave it out on the side of the road until mother nature reclaims it, as happened with the hand-painted billboard my mother create for Rosewood Funeral Home many years ago. She was a professional artist, but once she sold that work to them, she no longer had any say in what was done with it. If someone on here has a Dida Trek scan they are willing to share with the author of this thread, they are free to do so because they paid for it and they own it. Furthermore, if they do not profit from the act, it is virtually impossible to successfully prosecute them for it.


You have a very poor understanding of work for hire vs buying a copy of someone's work.

The purchaser is free to do what they want with the physical item, except copy it and distribute it for free, that isn't included in the price.

generic
Aug 17, '18, 8:28 PM
If a person creates a piece of artwork, which is what a Dida scan is, and then sells it to another person, that person may then do whatever he wants with it, even though upon it's creation it was an intellectual property. That person can scan it, copy it, hang it, fold it, cut it, resell it, shred it, burn it, or leave it out on the side of the road until mother nature reclaims it, as happened with the hand-painted billboard my mother create for Rosewood Funeral Home many years ago. She was a professional artist, but once she sold that work to them, she no longer had any say in what was done with it. If someone on here has a Dida Trek scan they are willing to share with the author of this thread, they are free to do so because they paid for it and they own it. Furthermore, if they do not profit from the act, it is virtually impossible to successfully prosecute them for it.

You are correct that it's virtually impossible to successfully prosecute them for it (sale or no sale). But when it comes to distributing the file to others who have not paid for it, that would only apply if the purchaser bought all of the rights to the art, not if they were one of many people to purchase a copy of the art for personal use. It's like if you buy a copy of Photoshop, you don't have the right to copy it and give it to a friend. If you buy a print from an artist, you don't have the right to scan it and print more copies for distribution.

I'm really not trying to bring any negativity here and I'm trying to be careful with my phrasing so that I don't sound like a jerk. I would just like to correct a common misconception (which has been hitting me very directly in the wallet over the last decade+). Ever since file sharing on songs via the internet, these laws have become much more relevant and much more misunderstood.

Capt_Kirk
Aug 18, '18, 6:39 AM
I don't mean to start anything here, but just for the sake of clearing up misinformation, your statement is not correct...unless you mean that if someone sells the ownership of the copyrights or trademark, the new owner can do what they want with it. If someone just purchases one of an item, they do not have any rights to copy and distribute it. A similar comparison would be that if you buy an album or DVD, you can not legally burn all the copies you want or upload all the songs online to distribute yourself. Despite the fact that people do this constantly to the financial detriment of the creators, it is not legal or moral.

Just because someone "can" do whatever they want to with it. Doesn't make it right. I have many friends that are artist. They spend many hours sculpting, painting, drawing and researching projects to create a very nice "whatever" Lets use a Mego figure head as an example.
Mego Member 1 spends a lot of time and talent to sculpt a custom Janice Rand head that is spot on. He paints it and sells it on eBay for 25.00. Then the purchaser takes that same head and recasts it and sells it to make a profit for himself. It happens all the time but, it's wrong. "Do unto others" I would not be happy if someone were out there making copies of my Mego sculpts to profit.
Just my 2 cents y'all

jacoblb
Aug 18, '18, 4:57 PM
Unless I'm mistaken the founder of the MM is also the talented artist who created the Dida Displays and artwork and obviously doesn't wish to distribute it for free otherwise there would be a download link for anybody to use. And I suppose the idea of monetizing a paid-for digital download has already been addressed with (the answer being) not having one available.

Even if someone scanned a copy of theirs and posted it in the reply, the image would not be shared for long because a MM moderator would immediately delete it and, I imagine if it ever got to that point, the whole thread would (rightly) disappear too.

ODBJBG
Aug 18, '18, 8:19 PM
I never understood why Dida didn't offer for pay downloads of their art for some of the sets. It was great stuff, but I rarely had the room or cash for the actual Dida Displays, but would have bought the heck out of some of the artwork. I always figured they didn't do that because it would cause people to not buy the Dida Displays themselves, but once Dida stopped making displays, I thought it would have been a good way to make some extra dough. But I guess Scott felt different. Can't begrudge him that, but some of the artwork on those sets was stellar.

Liu Bei
Aug 19, '18, 5:54 AM
Unless I'm mistaken the founder of the MM is also the talented artist who created the Dida Displays and artwork and obviously doesn't wish to distribute it for free otherwise there would be a download link for anybody to use. And I suppose the idea of monetizing a paid-for digital download has already been addressed with (the answer being) not having one available.

Even if someone scanned a copy of theirs and posted it in the reply, the image would not be shared for long because a MM moderator would immediately delete it and, I imagine if it ever got to that point, the whole thread would (rightly) disappear too.

I'm not very clear on the history of Dida Displays. Did he/they pay for the rights to produce the Enterprise Bridge and to reproduce the artwork from Mego's Wayne Manor playset? I guess my working assumption was that this was all fan-produced material, not copyrighted material. If I am/was wrong, I apologize for asking for scans.

palitoy
Aug 19, '18, 6:36 AM
It is all original artwork, not taken from any source and regardless of it's license or lack therefor of, it doesn't entitle anyone to copy it without consent.

The art was solely produced to sell the physical factory made sets that Robyn invested her money in, it belongs to her and only she can say whether or not they get distributed, especially on the website she created for pete's sake.

Liu Bei
Aug 19, '18, 10:39 AM
It is all original artwork, not taken from any source and regardless of it's license or lack therefor of, it doesn't entitle anyone to copy it without consent.

The art was solely produced to sell the physical factory made sets that Robyn invested her money in, it belongs to her and only she can say whether or not they get distributed, especially on the website she created for pete's sake.

I understand your argument, but think it would be better made minus the emotion.

The arguments from both sides about copyrights and licenses was and continues to be a non-sequitur, unless of course Dida Displays paid for the rights to create artwork based on the Bridge as seen in Star Trek, or the Batcave/Wayne Manor, etc... If not, there is an argument to be made about copyright violations, but not one I think you'd like.

If people here aren't comfortable with the original poster asking for scans, it's understandable. I think a non-response would suffice. For this to descend into an argument about licenses, theft, and violations of intellectual property rights is useless. No one accused Dida Displays of this behavior, nor should members of this forum looking to use those images to make their own displays be accused of it either.

Yes, people who might be looking to use those images to make money are scum. But I don't think that should be the immediate assumption here. That's my two cents, and I will speak no more on the subject (assuming the thread isn't deleted outright).

palitoy
Aug 19, '18, 10:45 AM
The reason I appear curt is this weird notion that my friends artwork is somehow shared ownership, it's not. It's hers to do with what she wants.

I'll work on my tact but folks should check their entitlement as well.

toothaction
Aug 19, '18, 10:57 AM
So... the whole Dida thing happened during my years in the wilderness, as in that long period where I loved the toys of my youth but wasn't hanging out here or trying to rebuild my former army of cloth-clad plastic peoples. Would someone mind pointing me to proper coverage of all the sets that the nice lady mentioned put together? I'm only finding stray images so far. My Google Powers are puny, obviously.

Thanks!

hedrap
Aug 19, '18, 12:12 PM
The Dida displays fall into a grey category. The pieces created off of existing designs can't be claimed as copyrighted work by Dida. i.e The LOD backdrops would go: WB-DC-HB-Takamoto-Toth in ownership. The original works, like the monster lab, are fully Dida-owned.

So the Trek playset, based on TOS set designs, would require royalties, while original screen boards for the monitor would not. I think it's smart they're not offered. It would be way too easy for a Chinese graphics company to pump and dump on eBay and not have to answer for anything.

toothaction
Aug 19, '18, 12:57 PM
So... the whole Dida thing happened during my years in the wilderness, as in that long period where I loved the toys of my youth but wasn't hanging out here or trying to rebuild my former army of cloth-clad plastic peoples. Would someone mind pointing me to proper coverage of all the sets that the nice lady mentioned put together? I'm only finding stray images so far. My Google Powers are puny, obviously.

Thanks!^ Repeating myself so that my requestion won't be missed with the page flip... I hope that's not bad form.

Iron Mego
Aug 19, '18, 1:04 PM
Here's a thread that might help a little Toothy:

http://megomuseum.com/community/showthread.php?102249-Dida-Displays-Retired

toothaction
Aug 19, '18, 1:29 PM
^ Much appreciated! Now I just need to find an annotated DB, heh.

generic
Aug 19, '18, 2:05 PM
...The pieces created off of existing designs can't be claimed as copyrighted work by Dida...

I didn't realize that some of the Dida displays were, themselves, created using copyrighted material belonging to other entities. :confused2:
Well, I stand behind my earlier statements on creators ownership rights...those statements just may not apply as well to some of the Dida displays in particular. :wink_y:

By the way, I followed Iron Mego's link to check out the different displays and wasn't able to see the "Dida's greatest hits" images in the first post. Is that my browser or are the images from the first post gone?

Iron Mego
Aug 19, '18, 2:25 PM
I couldn't see them either.

hedrap
Aug 19, '18, 5:20 PM
I didn't realize that some of the Dida displays were, themselves, created using copyrighted material belonging to other entities. :confused2:
Well, I stand behind my earlier statements on creators ownership rights...those statements just may not apply as well to some of the Dida displays in particular. :wink_y:


I don't disagree with what you and Pali said. I just wanted to point out doing screen-accurate replicas of something quite distinctive requires royalties.

I'm going by memory, but if Dida TOS artwork is a 1:1 attempt at the TOS bridge, then yeah. If it's an extension of the Mego playset design, then it would be fair game as that's a stylized interpretation of the TOS bridge. IOW, The Mego playset expands on something only recognizable to a specified audience whereas the TOS bridge is recognizable to the general population.

Since Mego didn't protect it's ip, it can't claim the design. You see that with Super7 and their Kenner homages. If Hasbro had TM'd the Star Wars card/box design, Super7's work couldn't happen. But they didn't think it was remarkable enough to do that.

Megotastrophe
Aug 20, '18, 10:59 PM
All legal arguments aside, the people who run the workhouse here think it would be theft if it isn't the creator of the artwork and that pretty much settles it. I think you are going to have to create your own. I suggest watching the cartoons of Trek and doing screencaps ...two or three screencaps of each area should get you a scene you can stitch together and clean up and make your own backdrops. This is the process I'm doing now and it is work but doable work.

MegoRobyn
Aug 21, '18, 6:41 PM
I haven't made them available because I'm lazy and a little bit mean. What can I say?

But let's try this. I am setting up a digital downloads store for old Dida Displays backdrops. Let me know what you think.

http://secretfanbase.com/didadisplays

I put up the Trek and Stately sets for sale and one 3 panel cityscape backdrop which is free for a limited time if you want to test drive them.

pmwasson
Aug 21, '18, 6:53 PM
I haven't made them available because I'm lazy and a little bit mean. What can I say?

But let's try this. I am setting up a digital downloads store for old Dida Displays backdrops. Let me know what you think.

http://secretfanbase.com/didadisplays

I put up the Trek and Stately sets for sale and one 3 panel cityscape backdrop which is free for a limited time if you want to test drive them.

Wow, that is very cool! Thanks Robyn!

MegoRobyn
Aug 21, '18, 6:58 PM
Well, I don't know how feasible it will really be. The images are all sized for Dida's so they really need to be printed on 11x17 at a copy shop for best results. Print them color laser and cut them out cleanly. You can print them in sections on your home printer and tape them together if you want to try that.

I think I'm pricing them fairly to compensate for time and talent. Feedback welcome.

I'll put up other sets soon.

TrekStar
Aug 21, '18, 8:04 PM
Those backdrops are great, fantastic idea and thanks for sharing.

Mego Magyar
Aug 21, '18, 8:04 PM
Cool.

I'm good, I have a printer that can go up to 13x19

LonnieFisher
Aug 21, '18, 9:42 PM
I ordered the free one. If I can figure out what to do with that, I'll definitely get the Trek set!

sprytel
Aug 21, '18, 10:21 PM
I just placed my order. Seems like a bargain to me! Thanks for offering these.

generic
Aug 21, '18, 11:58 PM
Awesome! Thanks, Robyn!

MegoRobyn
Aug 22, '18, 12:40 AM
Thanks so much for trying it out. Looking forward to seeing how that works for you.

Megotastrophe
Aug 22, '18, 2:44 AM
See I was looking for a reason to buy a wide format laser printer...

Capt_Kirk
Aug 22, '18, 11:54 AM
Great! thank you!

pmwasson
Aug 22, '18, 12:13 PM
I have a dumb question. I ordered the free display and got a receipt, but don't know where the file is. What do I do?

generic
Aug 22, '18, 12:23 PM
I have a dumb question. I ordered the free display and got a receipt, but don't know where the file is. What do I do?

I has assumed that the file (or a link to the file) would be emailed to us...but now that you mention it, I don't know either.

MegoRobyn
Aug 22, '18, 12:31 PM
Oh! Interesting!

The link for the free display was not working! So sorry. If you re-do it you will get a link after checkout and it will also be mailed to you.

Capt_Kirk
Aug 22, '18, 2:28 PM
Am I missing something or does the trek files not have consoles for the bridge?

toothaction
Aug 22, '18, 2:52 PM
The latest in my never-ending series of stupid questions:

What's a dida?

generic
Aug 22, '18, 4:41 PM
Oh! Interesting!

The link for the free display was not working! So sorry. If you re-do it you will get a link after checkout and it will also be mailed to you.

Ok, Thanks! I got it this time. :wink_y:

MegoRobyn
Aug 22, '18, 4:50 PM
Am I missing something or does the trek files not have consoles for the bridge?

Possibly neglected to add those to the PDF. Let me check. I can add those as a freebie.

MegoRobyn
Aug 22, '18, 4:52 PM
A little background information on Didas.

http://secretfanbase.com/didadisplays/about-dida-displays/

Megotastrophe
Aug 22, '18, 11:02 PM
Just a thought on construction. The vinyl sticker makers may have better input. To print these directly on sheets of sticker vinyl sheets. Just saying that the sticker vinyl usually maintains a great vibrant color.

Mego Magyar
Aug 23, '18, 2:25 PM
Is the small triangle transporter room ( floor, cealing, 2 walls ) included in the Trek file?

Thanks!

MegoRobyn
Aug 23, '18, 5:58 PM
Is the small triangle transporter room ( floor, cealing, 2 walls ) included in the Trek file?

Thanks!

The small triangular one is not, no. I switched to doing them square or as a full display, and that artwork is in there.

Capt_Kirk
Aug 24, '18, 6:14 AM
Robyn, Thanks for making this available. I love it! :heart:

Megotastrophe
Aug 25, '18, 10:54 AM
And as a bonus it will show just how much work really goes into making a quality playset for people who complain about the prices.

toothaction
Aug 25, '18, 11:01 AM
How much did the various sets run?

Still wondering what 'dida' means, too... please edumacate me!

MegoRobyn
Aug 27, '18, 9:09 PM
The deluxe custom playsets were several hundred dollars. I think at the end of the run I was charging $600 for a Batman set, $350 or so for Star Trek. Just because of all the labor involved. They were designed to be something you could do as a custom but hardly anybody ever did that. If you simply bought the vinyl parts and made them yourself they were $25-50 and up depending on what pieces you wanted.

"Dida" was my nickname for my grandfather who bought me my first Megos. Similar to Mego that people mispronounce Meh-go instead of MeeGoh it's Dee-Dah, not Die-Dah.

MegoRobyn
Aug 27, '18, 9:09 PM
I've added POTA artwork sets, check them out. http://secretfanbase.com/didadisplays/product-category/pota/

PNGwynne
Aug 27, '18, 9:23 PM
Seeing these large sets in person at MegoMeet X was incredible and really made me appreciate the effort put into them, I could understand the cost.

toothaction
Aug 27, '18, 9:51 PM
Thank you for the information, Robyn. That's very sweet about your grandfather.

generic
Aug 27, '18, 9:56 PM
Excellent job on all of the backgrounds! I just saw the POTA background and I love 'em!

Moxen
Aug 31, '18, 12:03 PM
The Lair, Hall of Justice, Castle and Monster backgrounds look amazing!

I'm curious, how many backgrounds will be posted in total? I'm going to have to do some saving up to get all of these!

EDIT: I didn't even realize there were addition pieces in some of the sub-menus! Oh please let there be a Legion of Doom set too!

toothaction
Nov 27, '18, 12:26 PM
Just made a little report on Robyn's Dida scans over on the Ambassadors page. With any luck she's be overwhelmed by orders in the coming days!

Nostalgiabuff
Dec 30, '18, 9:06 AM
are the vinyl panels to put the printouts in, still available anywhere?

MegoRobyn
Jan 1, '19, 12:25 PM
They are not.

VulcansFury
Jan 7, '19, 7:17 AM
"Stay tuned for more sets."


Anything new on the horizon? What you have are gorgeous and anything more would be fantastic!

Megolike
May 29, '19, 9:09 PM
nobody expects the Spanish Inquistion!

Chris
May 7, '20, 10:11 AM
Thank you Dida!!!! Just purchased the POTA interiors and exteriors.
They will be perfect backdrops for my 12" custom figures and custom wagon.
Just need to find a printer.

Megotastrophe
May 9, '20, 3:00 PM
She has adapted some of her sets to the FTC playset blank if you want an alternative to the panels she used to use.

Chris
May 15, '20, 2:22 PM
Thx for the info. I really just wanted back drops for my custom POTA 12" figures. Sadly, I don't know who is open to print them out.