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Whether it be Super Friends, Super Powers, or the DCU in general, I can't help but wonder what the biggest challenge will be for FTC in making Hawkman (or Hawkgirl for that matter) What do you think? Is it the wings or the head piece(s)? I myself think it will be an even toss up. I know the bubble on the card will have to be larger. I'm anxious to complete the Super Friends. Any thoughts?
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IMO, probably simple economics, and maybe the fear of failure.
The outfit would be pretty easy, really not much different than Manhunter from Mars.
But the head sculpt would be pretty intricate, and this is a company that has issues with even the simplest of heads, such as bald Lex Luthor.
(not trying to start a discussion/argument, just regurgitating what has been said many times)
Then there's wings. Yup, can probably mass produce those in China cheaper than what DM offers but, as you pointed out, Hawkman would require new packaging. that means more $$$
My point is, by design, Hawkman would be expensive to produce, and to buy.
But you could always 'roll your own' if you like:
Or wait just a little bit longer-FTC has been known to surprise us.
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FTC can totally do this right--if they really want to. It's new tooling for the wings, but figures like Mr. Freeze, Gleek, and Cyborg prove that can be done well. Heck, DC Direct wings work perfectly for customs, instant prototype.
The make-or-break is the head sculpt and scale IMO. I'm dead-set against a removable mask, those seldom look right in scale, and scale is already a concern.WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.Comment
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I'm sure FTC looks at the economics of producing a new part as far as reuse goes. Hawk wings could be used for 3 sets of hawks, SF, Golden and Silver Age, and again for Golden Eagle in the Titans line. So that is seven uses for them. Then if they produce them in a few other colors as a customizing option, like say white for instance, I'm sure there will be more sales of wings.You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie BanksComment
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When they started with the DC figures, very early on when they announced the Farrow was doing the head sculpts I swear Hawkman was one of the sculpts they said he'd done. You have to wonder what's been happening here. I do have a feeling he'll be in the next Super Powers wave. My prediction is:
Hawkman
Dr. Fate
Firestorm
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I wonder if FTC could pay to use the Four Horsemen wing molds for the Hawks? Not sure if they are large enough but the design is nice...
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When they started with the DC figures, very early on when they announced the Farrow was doing the head sculpts I swear Hawkman was one of the sculpts they said he'd done. You have to wonder what's been happening here. I do have a feeling he'll be in the next Super Powers wave. My prediction is:
Hawkman
Dr. Fate
Firestorm
Red Tornedo[/QUOTE]
I hope you're right. Those are all figures I would definitely want. I remember seeing a really nice prototype Hawkman sculpt here, and I think it was by the Farrow and meant for the Mattel Retro-Action line. Too bad FTC can't use that one. Hawkman's wings are a reall challenge. If they make them in a realistic size they'll probably have to enlarge the bubble. Of course the wings might be detachable, but they would still be awkward to fit in the regular bubble.Comment
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I don't know that the Farrow was involved with any Mattel sculpts. At any rate, I'm almost positive another sculptor did a removable-mask Hawkman prototype for Mattel--which was shown at MegoMeet years ago.WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.Comment
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I think the head sculpt would be simple, they should use material similar to what the play sets are made of, laminated paper, with snap hinges that allow them to fold or spread. They would either snap on or strap on. Mego should not be over designed, in my opinion.Comment
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Screen print wings with a wire through the top would be Mego-esque and probably not much more difficulty to do than the capes with the wires.Comment
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This, a thousand times this. DC Direct had terrific ball-jointed wings on Hawk-family figures over a decade ago. Two little holes punched into the back torso to pop the wings into and voila!. Or, as you say, add them to the harness. But my assumption is that the harness will be sewn/decorative like Martian Manhunter's, and the wings inserted into the torso would be more secure and poseable.
I'm not at all in favor of cloth or cardboard wings, any more than I'd have liked a cloth or cardboard quiver on Green Arrow.WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.Comment
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