Who hates MOONRAKER ?

[Mikey]

It seems like the media (ever since it was new) called James Bond's Moonraker a flop, but so far--- every person i've ever talked about it loves it.

Me too.

I think it's a fun movie... even though it is a little slow from the begining.

I have a hunch the people that don't like it are extreme James Bond fans who think too much liberty was taken with the premise and events of the movie.

Me, I could care less.

Just entertain me, and Moonraker did just that :grin:

[thunderbolt]

Never cared for the Moore Bonds. There was just something about him that didn't seem believable as 007.

[ABMAC]

Moonraker is one of my least favourite of the Bond films I've seen. Because of its science fiction aspects, I really wanted to like it, but Roger Moore was looking and acting less like a secret agent and more like a rapidly aging film star by then. He was embarassing to watch. I've been to funerals where the corpses wore less makeup than he did, and they still looked better.

[Hornet of Doom]

I'm not really a Bond fan, but I respect the character and situations that Ian Fleming came up with.

The whole idea of James Bond going into space sounds like the production company asked fifth graders what they wanted to see Bond do. Going into space and fighting a guy who bit things for a living just seems kinda lame.

[YANOULI]

on the whole, i like it.

It is a bit slow for most of the film, my favourite bit is the space battle at the end.

[thunderbolt]

It was a lame attempt to jump on the Star Wars bandwagon. Surprised Drax didn't have a breather mask and cape.

[The Bat]

I have a fondness for it, because I remember watching as a Kid. Sure It get's pretty Tongue & cheek alot...but it was fun, and I still like it.:)

[Earth 2 Chris]

My best friend is not a big Bond fan, but LOVES Moonraker. He's seen several movies and prefers it to all of them, and Moore over Connery or anyone else.

I think it's the Bond movie for non-Bond fans.

I can take it or leave it. Beyond Live and Let Die and parts of The Man with the Golden Gun, the majority of Moore's Bonds are just too campy and dated for me now. I'll take a Connery bond over any Moore movie any day.

Chris

[MegoNinja]

Im going to have to agree with the fact that it is a poor attempt to capitalize on the sci-fi craze at the time. I love the character Jaws because he is a classic and memorable villain in the Bond movies, other than that I thought the entire film was made for children.

'nuff said.

[Comic Book Geek]

Moonraker was the first Bond Movie I saw, and I walked out thinking it was the best movie ever.

[palitoy]

I don't hate it but it's so camp they might as well have put Dean Martin in as Bond. I never bought Moore as Bond anyway, he's too fey for the role.

[Mikey]

I wouldn't list Moonraker among my top-5 fav Bond movies, but I like it enough to be in my top 10.

My top-5 list is .....

1. Goldfinger
2. Live and Let Die
3. Octopusy
4. The Man With the Golden Gun
5. Diamonds are Forever

[kingdom warrior]

I'm a hardcore Bond Fan Moonraker IMO is awful but it's better than View to a Kill that one is just Garbage......

I never was a fan of Moore always loved Connery,Craig is awesome Thought Bronson was pretty good and I liked Daltons Two movies I even like Lazenby over Moore....

Favorite Bond Movies
1.GoldFinger
2.Casino Royale
3.ThunderBall
4.From Russia with Love
5.Dr.No
6.You only Live Twice
7.Diamonds are forever
8.On her Majesty's secret service
9.Live and Let die
10.Tommorrow Never Dies

[Evel KMego]

I love Moonraker! The campiness is what I love most! How campy was the Batman tv series? Green Hornet? Avengers? Come on, campy is what we grew up on! Bring on all the campiness of the 60's and 70's!!!!!!

[Earth 2 Chris]

Top 5 Bonds:

1. Goldfinger
2. Casino Royale
3. Golden Eye
4. Thunderball
5. Live and Let Die (Moore's only truly good Bond movie, IMHO).

Chris

[DocDrako]

Moonraker is the only Bond film I've seen. I saw it when I was a kid and I liked it. Jaws is cool when he...nevermind...spoiler.

:grin:

[phil]

I'm not a fan of the film. I do have some nostalgia for it because it was the
first Bond movie I saw in a theatre. It's far too silly for it's good.

They are two very different animals, the movie and book, but Ian Fleming's
novel is a good read.

The movie was not a flop in the commercial sense. I believe that in 1979 it
was actually the highest grossing film in the series. Of course if you want
to adjust for inflation then "Thunderball" is still the highest grossing film.

Actually I would reccomend watching "Thunderball" instead of "Moonraker".
"Thunderball" has it's faults but the two films have similar run times and your
time would be better spent with Sean than Roger.

[draconianguard]

It seems like the media (ever since it was new) called James Bond's Moonraker a flop, but so far--- every person i've ever talked about it loves it.

Me too.

I think it's a fun movie... even though it is a little slow from the begining.

I have a hunch the people that don't like it are extreme James Bond fans who think too much liberty was taken with the premise and events of the movie.

Me, I could care less.

Just entertain me, and Moonraker did just that :grin:
I wouldn't use the word flop in the same sentence as Moonraker. I think it's the highest grossing Bond film. Moonraker is the first 007 film I saw and I loved it. I'm sure anyone from the Star Wars generation loved it.

[number 6]

While I'm not a big fan of the Moore Bonds, I like Moonraker. Granted, it can't even compare with Goldfinger or Casino Royale, but taken in the context of the Moore Bonds I think it's one of the more entertaining one's to watch.

And for those who dislike Moonraker because it's not faithful to the book, I might point out that You Only Live Twice pretty much chucks the book as well.

I'll say this, while I prefer Connery over Moore, I'd watch Moonraker over Diamonds Are Forever any day.

Bond in a moonbuggy in the desert? JIMMY DEAN!?! PUH-leeze!

[ABMAC]

I wouldn't use the word flop in the same sentence as Moonraker. I think it's the highest grossing Bond film. Moonraker is the first 007 film I saw and I loved it. I'm sure anyone from the Star Wars generation loved it.
Tomorrow Never Dies - $125,200,000
Goldeneye - $106,429,941
Octopussy - $67,893,619
Thunderball - $63,595,658
Moonraker - $62,723,559

This pathetic attempt to cash in on Star Wars' success was never in the same league.

[draconianguard]

Tomorrow Never Dies - $125,200,000
Goldeneye - $106,429,941
Octopussy - $67,893,619
Thunderball - $63,595,658
Moonraker - $62,723,559

This pathetic attempt to cash in on Star Wars' success was never in the same league.
If you adjust for inflation, it made more than TND & Goldeneye. I know most people 40 and over hate it, to each his own.

[Werewolf]

I like Moonraker. I thought it was a fun movie and I personally think Roger Moore gets unfairly criticized. I liked him as Bond because he didn't play it like Connery.

To be honest, there really aren’t any Bond films I don't like. I also don't have a favorite Bond actor. I think they were all really good for their time.

Connery is Bond, nuff said. Without him being cast as Bond the series wouldn't have taken off of or lasted this long in my opinion.

Since he only did one movie, I don't really have a strong opinion on Lazenby. On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a good movie, just not one of my favorites of the series.

Moore's lighthearted and romantic take was right for the 70s. Connery's sexist Bond worked in the 60s but probably wouldn't have fit in the age of women's lib.

Dalton also did a really good job. But I think at the time the studio wasn't really sure how to update the character and they were transitional movies.

Brosnan brought Bond's edge back and was the right guy for the 90s.

Craig's brutal "blunt instrument" Bond totally kicked ***. But really wouldn't have worked earlier.

[Dr. Phibes]

Loved Dr. Goodhead! I loved her almost as much as I loved Miss Plenty O'toole. I also liked ***** Galore and of course Miss Money Penny.

[Brue]

Are you kidding? I LOVE Mooraker!

[monkey tennis]

I liked it because of the toys.
But still, it's the only Bond movie that I like.

But then I did like Condorman...a lot

[SUP-Ronin]

Seems like bond films, especially post Connery, are hit or miss for me.
I liked Moore when I was too young to realize he wasn't that great. I loved Connery, Lazenby was not memorable for me, hated Timothy Dalton, Brosnan was ok , but the writing and leading ladies stunk, and I really like Daniel Craig.

[toys2cool]

Never cared for the Moore Bonds. There was just something about him that didn't seem believable as 007.

yeah that's pretty much how I feel :grin:

[palitoy]

I'm not the biggest Moore fan either, don't hate him just prefer Connery. As for Moonraker, I'll admit I've never sat through it all, fallen asleep twice during. I still want to check it out though. I'm a fan of star wars inspired schlock, I think I like that better than Star Wars.

[Evel KMego]

I liked it because of the toys.
But still, it's the only Bond movie that I like.

But then I did like Condorman...a lot



Ah Condorman! I've been looking for the comic book of that film for years! I had it as a kid and have tried to find it to no avail. I'm sure the movie was bad, but it is a childhood memory I would like to relive.

[monkey tennis]

It was released on DVD recently.
I didn't really dig it as much as when I was young,
a couple of scenes were cool,
but my kids loved it.

I never saw the comic books.

[monkey tennis]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/18910670294.1.gif
Condorman Comics.
Found them (didn't take long)
Here's a link if you want to buy them.
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=18910670294&snumber=1

[Goblin19]

It's pretty bad, though not as bad as Live and Let Die, IMO. I'm a huge Bond fan, and it's definitely the second worst of the series. If they had thrown in the redneck sheriff from Live and Let Die and put him in a space suit, then it would be the worst.

[Hector]

I'm not the biggest Moore fan...but I did enjoy Moonraker.

[Vortigern99]

If I didn't know and love the other, more serious versions of Bond -- including Moore's own For Your Eyes Only, which is excellent -- I'd probably like Moonraker. But it's just so silly and childish compared to the meatier, more adult interpretations of the character and his milieu, that I cannot bring myself to enjoy it. There's just too much camp and overt pandering to the children's market.

For me, even though Moore was the Bond I grew up with, I didn't become a fan of the series until I discovered the Connery Bonds on TV. Now I love them all with the exception of Moore, who is just too comical and old-mannish most of the time, but even he made one or two decent ones. Dalton was awesome in the role, but his movies were lackluster; Brosnan was decent but not tough enough IMO. Daniel Craig, bad*** extraordinaire, rules the roost!

My faves by each actor:
1. Casino Royale - Daniel Craig
2. Thunderball - Sean Connery
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - George Lazenby
4. Goldeneye - Pierce Brosnan
5. For Your Eyes Only - Roger Moore
6. License to Kill - Timothy Dalton

[Airdave817]

To me, Sean Connery is James Bond. I am thinking that as each actor plays Bond for very long the films tend to get worse and worse. The early Sean Connery Bond films were pretty decent. Diamonds Are Forever is probably the weakest one of his bunch.

Roger Moore was pretty suave and debonair as Bond, but not my favorite. Too dependent on gadgets than ingenuity. I think his Bond is the closest comparison to Bruce Wayne. I think My favorite of his was The Spy Who Loved Me. Wasn't that the one with Jane Seymour? Yeah, man!

Unfortunately, George Lazenby kinda is the underrated - transitional - Bond. On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a pretty good flick!

I'm not a big Daniel Craig fan. I'm debating whether to see the next Bond film.

Timothy Dalton is good in everything else he's ever done. I'd watch The Rocketeer or Flash Gordon a thousand times before one of his Bond films.

Pierce Brosnan seemed to get all the elements right a few times. Die Another Day was a little out there in parts.

A number of Roger Moore's Bond films are campy, cartoonish and super-heroish. Like Adam West playing Bond. Not that that's a bad thing. I liked him better as The Saint. Jaws was a pretty cool villain, and probably the only one that was indestructable. But when a building collapses on Jaws and he gets up, brushes himself off and keeps going like the energizer bunny, c'mon. I thought it was GREAT that Roger Moore lampooned himself in the Cannonball Run. I read somewhere that he always played Bond for laughs. I would watch Moore's Bond films with the '60's Batman movie and any Mel Brooks movie. They're good, but not good the way you want them to be. C'mon a sub-marine car? I want one of those!!

[jds1911a1]

I am not a huge Roger moore bond fan but he had his moments but to me Mookraker aint it. and I am not a flemming purist either but Moonraker and Spy who loved me were just too over the top for me. I think that they reined in nicely with Octopussy and for your eyes only. Moore had decent comedic timing but even when fed great lines his delivery was a little flat especially when contrasted to Sean connery.
my top 5
Dr No
Goldfinger
Thunderball
You only Live twice
For your eyes only

my bottom 5 in (decendiing order)
World is not enough (not buying the guy from the Lexus commercials as the lead villian)
A veiw to a kill - Walken'd villian is laughable
For her majesty's secret service - I feel Laznby only had 1 crack at the role for a reason
moonraker - not my worst but it was a tough choice.
Diamonds are forever - connery's worst between Jimmy Dean and the guy from Rocky Horror as blofeld

[jds1911a1]

[QUOTE=Airdave817;103830]
Roger Moore was pretty suave and debonair as Bond, but not my favorite. Too dependent on gadgets than ingenuity. I think his Bond is the closest comparison to Bruce Wayne. I think My favorite of his was The Spy Who Loved Me. Wasn't that the one with Jane Seymour? Yeah, man!
QUOTE]

Spy who loved me is barbara bach (thats the one with the subs)
Live and let Die is Jane Seymour (she was like 19) it was Moore's first and a very good one too

[fallensaviour]

I liked it???
It was bond.
I was a kid.
It is by no means the best or worst it is in the middle for me.
Now as an adult I can honestly say that Connery is bond,Moore was good,Dalton was good,Brosnan was great,Lazenby was decent and Graig has just breathed new life into the character for me.I find Graig more Conneryesque.

[starsky]

as a kid thought it was great! as an adult it was campy at best but i've always enjoyed connery, moore, and brosnan as bond.

[Evel KMego]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/18910670294.1.gif
Condorman Comics.
Found them (didn't take long)
Here's a link if you want to buy them.
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=18910670294&snumber=1



Thanks! Man those pics bring back memories. I gotta pic those up and the dvd. Noticing the prices for the comics, they're not exactly big sellers:smiley1:

[Gorn Captain]

To me, Moonraker killed the franchise. They turned a great villain (Jaws) into a sissy, ripped-off Star Wars, and Moore was too geriatric to pull off being a deadly secret agent. To me, Spy who loved me was the last great Bond until Casino Royale came along. So I've collected all Sideshow Bond figures from Dr.No to Jaws, but stopped there. How many memorable Bond villains can you name after Jaws? Right, none.

I really liked Dalton (he had the looks and the cool), but the movies aren't that great. Brosnan was too soft, he only got good in his last Bond. Lazenby never had a chance, and Connery, well, need we say more?

So all I'm asking for now, is another iconic bad guy. One you won't forget.

And can Sideshow please, please, make a Goldfinger, Grant and Rosa Klebb, Baron Samedi, Pleasance Blofeld (with cat, of course), ...
Is that too much to ask for?

[Vortigern99]

It's odd that the 'geriatric' Moore seemed so effete and unconvincing in Moonraker, yet in the very next film, FYEO, he was at the top of his game in terms of spy-adventure coolness and arched-brow action poses. I notice this 1981 movie hasn't got a lot of comment from Moore's detractors or rom Bond fans in general, but the fans who do know the film -- like me! -- realize there's good reason to list it among the best 007 movies.

[Gorn Captain]

Admittedly, For Your Eyes Only was a step in the right direction. The only way was up, of course. Maybe 007 was the first test person for the notorious blue pill?:smiley1:

[livnxxxl]

Moonraker was the first Bond Movie I saw, and I walked out thinking it was the best movie ever.

My thoughts exactly. I still prefer Roger Moore over Sean Connery. I cannot stand to hear that guy (Sean Connery) talk during the movie. It just ruins the whole movie for me when he opens his mouth to speak. I absolutely refuse to watch his movies. Roger Moore was pretty cool IMO regardless of what all of the Bond heads say.

[livnxxxl]

Roger Moore was pretty suave and debonair as Bond, but not my favorite. Too dependent on gadgets than ingenuity. I think his Bond is the closest comparison to Bruce Wayne.

The gadgets is what I really like most about the Bond movies. Just like real life I like all of the toys/gadgets in the new automobiles. The more bells and whistles the better I like it.

[Action Martin]

I'm a longtime fan of the 007 films but not the books. The first movie that I ever saw in a theatre was "Live and Let Die", which was also my first 007 movie. I've watched all the 007 films over the years, even owned them a few times. Roger Moore was not James Bond. Like a previous poster recalled, Moore did claim to play Bond for laughs. I believe he said that when "For Your Eyes Only" was released. "Moonraker" like most all of the Moore films was horrible. Drax was a fine villain but we've seen his kind before. Jaws was formidible as a henchman but became a clown. Dr. Goodhead was the only decent thing about "Moonraker" but she had to deliver that horrible line at the end of the movie "Take me around the world again, James." Gah. The Moore movies were basically parodies of themselves and the entire 007 legacy.

And since everyone else is doing it, my Top 5 007 movies:
1. Goldfinger
2. Thunderball
3. Goldeneye
4. Live and Let Die
5. Dr. No

[Mikey]

This might be blasphemy, but I never liked ....

1. From Russia With Love

2. Dr No

3. Thunderball

4. For Your Eyes Only

I thought they were actually kind of boring.

BTW,
The first Bond I ever seen in the theatre was Live and Let Die too :)
Thought it was FANTASTIC !!! :grin:

[Hector]

My thoughts exactly. I still prefer Roger Moore over Sean Connery. I cannot stand to hear that guy (Sean Connery) talk during the movie. It just ruins the whole movie for me when he opens his mouth to speak. I absolutely refuse to watch his movies. Roger Moore was pretty cool IMO regardless of what all of the Bond heads say.

You are completely nuts.

:juggleyes_y:

[Hector]

...I meant that in a good way btw.

:grin:

[kingdom warrior]

This might be blasphemy, but I never liked ....

1. From Russia With Love

2. Dr No

3. Thunderball


Blasphemer!!!!!!! A Thousand lashes too you!!!! :grin::silly:

[grayhank]

Roger Moore was pretty suave and debonair as Bond, but not my favorite. Too dependent on gadgets than ingenuity. I think his Bond is the closest comparison to Bruce Wayne. I think My favorite of his was The Spy Who Loved Me. Wasn't that the one with Jane Seymour? Yeah, man!

Nope Jane Seymour was in Live And Let Die as the tarot card reading "Solitaire".

I liked all the Bond Actors except for George Lazenby. The one thing I do find funny about the "die hard" Connory fans is nobody ever mentions his return to the Bond role in "Never Say Never Again" (one of the worst of the Bond films IMHO). Connory was either very unmemorable or "Octopussy" was the better film being released only a few short months before Connory's return to the role.

Then Moore returned in A View To A Kill. I always think of Grace Jones as the villain in that one...not Chris Walken. But I do cringe at the sight of Tonya Roberts screaming on the back of the firetruck. Worst Bond scene of all time.

[Hector]

Never Say Never Again had many obstacles, one of the main one was that they couldn't use the Bond theme music...that was a big blow to that production.

...and you could see Connery's heart was not into it...he was past prime for that role.

I thought George Lazenby was a GREAT Bond, and his film, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, is one of the very best Bond films of all times...oh...and it had the gorgeous and delicious Diana Rigg as well.

The worst Bond for me was Timothy Dalton...he had ZERO personality, no sophistication, not suave at all...he was just a very vengeful and angry Bond...he was all wrong for the role.

[Cardzilla]

You are absolutely right about "Never Say Never Again" and Sean Connery. Don't get me wrong, I love Sean Connery as Bond but it was past his prime.

On the other hand, I believe George Lazenby would have made one of the best Bonds had he made more Bond movies. I don't recollect why he only made one movie. Any ideas ?

[thunderbolt]

My thoughts exactly. I still prefer Roger Moore over Sean Connery. I cannot stand to hear that guy (Sean Connery) talk during the movie. It just ruins the whole movie for me when he opens his mouth to speak. I absolutely refuse to watch his movies. Roger Moore was pretty cool IMO regardless of what all of the Bond heads say.

You probably prefer Sammy Hagar over David Lee Roth, too. :smiley1: I never found Moore believable for one second. Either as and action hero or a ladie's man.

[Mikey]

. I don't recollect why he only made one movie. Any ideas ?

I remember reading somewhere George Lazenby was incredibly hard to get along with on the set.

The producers and production couldn't wait to get the film in the can so they can hurry up and fire him.

The article made it sound like he was a real pain in the ***.

[livnxxxl]

You probably prefer Sammy Hagar over David Lee Roth, too. :smiley1: I never found Moore believable for one second. Either as and action hero or a ladie's man.

No, Actually I do like David Lee Roth over Sammy as long as we are talking Van Halen that is. :smile: I cannot help it that I have such great taste in Bond actors. :smiley1:

[Vortigern99]

Never Say Never Again had many obstacles, one of the main one was that they couldn't use the Bond theme music...that was a big blow to that production.

...and you could see Connery's heart was not into it...he was past prime for that role.

I thought George Lazenby was a GREAT Bond, and his film, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, is one of the very best Bond films of all times...oh...and it had the gorgeous and delicious Diana Rigg as well.

The worst Bond for me was Timothy Dalton...he had ZERO personality, no sophistication, not suave at all...he was just a very vengeful and angry Bond...he was all wrong for the role.

Never Say Never was also working from the screenplay for Thunderball, since that was the only Bond project the makers had the rights to do. It suffers in that regard and is somewhat underwhelming, but it isn't a bad movie the way the execrable Spy Who Loved Me or Moonraker are bad movies.

I agree that Lazenby and Majesty's Secret Service were both great. The action sequences are top-notch, with a bite to them that all the Moore movies lack (except maybe Your Eyes Only).

But Hector, Timothy Dalton has suave and sophistication to spare! It's just the movies surrounding him that are uninspired and flaccid. His turn in Flash Gordon is so debonair (if admittedly angry) that you have to wonder what went wrong with Daylights and License. It was like he was a place-holder until the producers figured out what they were doing.

[Action Martin]

I've always liked Timothy Dalton. Dalton was saddled with two poorly written & acted movies. However, his portrayal of Bond was IMO closest to Fleming's Bond.

[Hector]

You guys are right, I was a bit harsh on Dalton, he is a solid actor...but his Bond was written too angrily IMO...too vengeful.

[Mikey]

I like Dalton a lot .....

But not as Bond ....

Kill me, but my fav Bond was probably Roger Moore...

I loved how he made fun of the franchise and didn't take things too seriously..
You can tell he was having fun, so we all did too.
Watch Connery in Diamonds are Forever--- at that time he finally started having fun too and you can see it.

Diamonds is a very under-rated Bond.
It's when Connery finally loosened up... but by that time it was too late.

Lazenby was just too stiff.
Her Majesty was a great story, but Lazenby had no charisma.

[Hector]

Yes, I'm going to kill you, Mike.

:grin:

[Vortigern99]

I believe Moonraker is based on a Fleming story, although none of it took place in space. Maybe once they start re-making Fleming works truer to the original source (a-la Casino Royale, though I know the upcoming Bond 22 is totally original), they'll make Moonraker as, you know, a good movie.

[monkey tennis]

Think I'll buy it on DVD to see if it really is as bad as I remember.

[Mikey]

A lot of people HATE Jaws turning good because of the love a woman ... But it's one of my favourite parts in the whole movie :grin:

[Mikey]

YouTube - Jaws meets Dolly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQS9RJjrxiA)

also

YouTube - Moonraker Bond in space part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkNhDYI0Uos&feature=related)

Jaws on Letterman
YouTube - David Letterman with - Richard Kiel - From 1985! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Oybmf15z8&feature=related)


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[monkey tennis]

Same thing happened to me,
I turned away from the evil empire...
But one day you will all give me your Mego's and plead Allegiance to the one true Lord.
Sorry, something I ate

[palitoy]

I believe Moonraker is based on a Fleming story, although none of it took place in space. Maybe once they start re-making Fleming works truer to the original source (a-la Casino Royale, though I know the upcoming Bond 22 is totally original), they'll make Moonraker as, you know, a good movie.

The original Moonraker book is very 1950's in it's construction, centering around V2 rockets and the like. Anyone who would adapt iot to screen would have to make a lot of changes to make it relevant. Not to say you'd go to the extremes of 1979 but as I recall, that book is very "jet age".

[Action Martin]

The movie "Moonraker" was written by Christopher Wood who also adapted it into novel form as "James Bond and Moonraker". He also wrote the movie "The Spy Who Loved Me", which had NOTHING to do with the Fleming novel, and his own novelization of the that film.

[Vortigern99]

^ ^ Thanks, we now know whom to blame for the two worst Bond films in the franchise's history. :wink_y:

[Steeler80]

Not one of my favorite of the Bond films, but I did like it. I think another of its problems is that it came after "The Spy Who Loved Me" which I consider to be the best of the Moore Bond, so it might have been a bit of a letdown in that respect.

Edited to ask Vortigen99 how he can hate Spy Who Loved Me? :)

[Action Martin]

how he can hate Spy Who Loved Me? :)

Because it was horrible.

[palitoy]

Ok, I just watched Moonraker al at once for the first time. It does suffer from that late 70's need to put a lot of comedy into the action (Superman movies have that problem as well).In fact, I almost turned it off after they showed Jaws stumble out of the cable car thing like Yosemite Sam.

Holly Goodhead can't act worth crap and Richard Kiel is the slowest killer ever. It seems like they made Moonraker to appeal to the kids, I could see myself really liking it at 9.

"Die Another Day" was just as silly to me.

[livnxxxl]

Kill me, but my fav Bond was probably Roger Moore....


You are not alone. It looks as if you and I will be killed together. I like Roger Moore primarily because he was the first James Bond that I seen as a kid. Therefore, I had thought that he WAS James Bond. Little did I know at the time that they would switch James Bond casts like some people change underwear. To me Roger Moore just looks the part as being James Bond. I have all of the Bond movies some are better than others. I do know that I am not a big fan of Sean Connery. This much is true. How he ever became Bond I will never know. Must have aquired him at a pretty inexpensive contract price I would hope at least. For me changing Roger Moore to a different Bond would be like changing one of the orginal Star Trek members. It just isn't the same to me. That is why I never got into any of the other Star Trek shows after the original. Again, to each their own. If everyone agreed on everything this would be a pretty boring ace forum. :smile:

[livnxxxl]

Ok, I just watched Moonraker al at once for the first time. It does suffer from that late 70's need to put a lot of comedy into the action (Superman movies have that problem as well).In fact, I almost turned it off after they showed Jaws stumble out of the cable car thing like Yosemite Sam.

Holly Goodhead can't act worth crap and Richard Kiel is the slowest killer ever. It seems like they made Moonraker to appeal to the kids, I could see myself really liking it at 9.

"Die Another Day" was just as silly to me.

I think you have a very valid point regarding the age factor. This did play a big role in it for me. I seen one of the other Bond films a while back (can't remember the name of it right now, that is how important it is to me) but I believe it was Pierce Bronson taking a motorcycle and jumping off of a mountain to catch an airplane going down and then he pulls the plane out of a complete stall.....and then.... I was like come on now. Now your insulting my intelligence.

[Steeler80]

Because it was horrible.

I will admit that my opinion is influenced by Barbara Bach in that black dress just as I was reaching an impressionable age.

That and I thought the Lotus submarine was awesome.

[Vortigern99]

Steeler80 asked why I didn't like Spy, and my answer is that it suffers from the same problems as Moonraker: It's designed to appeal to children and goes out of its way to be goofy, campy and cartoonish. Although Moore was also my first Bond, after discovering Connery's more serious and hard-edged approach I have a difficult time taking Moore seriously. He's the Adam West of James Bond's, and the movies that surround him are almost universally silly, with the exception of Your Eyes Only and parts of Octopussy. So there ya go. I want to take Bond seriously, and imagine him as being a real person, as opposed to the tongue-in-cheek comedian we get with Moore.